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Old 02-09-2013, 12:29 AM   #16
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Just turn your TC off


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Old 02-09-2013, 09:43 AM   #17
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Leaving traction on is fine for normal driving but when a car is stuck I find it better to turn it off. Look in the video I posted the wheels were barely trying to turn because of traction, once I took it off, it just powered out of it.
ABS - Traction control - Stability Control.....The next feature should be "Intelligent Control"....

The algorithm should detect the car's TC is bening activated chronically, but the car is not actually moving...defeat the TC until it gets up to a reasonable speed..ie.. undriven wheels are 20 kph or something.

While we're on this topic, ABS works great in most conditions. But if the snow is not packed down hard, a locked wheels stops a car in shorter distance. So add that to the Intelligent Control... use the back up camera to detect just how snowy it is and .....
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:04 AM   #18
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Was talking to my mechanic about this. Apparently killing the throttle isn't the first thing the BMW system does. The first stage is to apply the rear brakes alternately at the left and right wheel. This happens without reducing power - and it's often enough to get the car going from stand-still. Cutting the power is the second stage, and it only lasts briefly before we're back to the first stage of braking.

Again I'll note my caveats - I haven't actually been stuck yet - so I don't know about that. And my wife's 335 is an auto - so I don't know if that means the TC system is any different to a manual car. None of my manual bimmers have traction control .. so many variables!
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:12 AM   #19
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^You're describing DSC which is actually a good system. The earlier ASC was absolute trash. All it did was cut throttle, effectively just making you hold on for the ride when you lost control.
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:21 PM   #20
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^interesting - thanks - I knew I was missing some details
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:17 PM   #21
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Danimal & I actually went out last night in my coupe, we drove around for 3hrs & sometimes intentionally got stuck for fun, I never had any problems getting out of the snow banks & snow pack parking lots, but Danimal on the other hand was getting nervous because he didn't want to get out to push
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:00 PM   #22
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LOL great timing OP with that video.

I worked from home.

saw all kinds of cars (without winters) getting stuck...and a lot of is had to do with peopel stopping at bad spots(like a big snow plow mound..)dont stop IN IT.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:16 PM   #23
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I couldn't make it up a ~8% grade in a subdivision, needed a one handed push from a friendly passerby. I'm on performance winter tires though, but still didn't ever get stuck. My next move would have been to back up the hill (there is your protip for the day kids, reverse up hill = fwd car, pulling > pushing in deep stuff).
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:48 PM   #24
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Funny how those preaching about snow tires stayed home that day.
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:17 PM   #25
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Funny how those preaching about snow tires stayed home that day.
If you read, I went out during lunch. In the same stuff the xi got stuck in.
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Old 02-12-2013, 09:52 PM   #26
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I got stuck. 328i with snows. I never ever got stuck with my previous Xdrive vehicles where I didn't have snow tires. Alot has to do with having to stop for someone else. In my previous Xdrive it was always easier to get moving when I had to stop. I can't wait to go back to a Xdrive.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:27 AM   #27
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I Hijacked this from another thread

awd vs fwd w snows
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Old 02-13-2013, 12:35 PM   #28
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Funny how those preaching about snow tires stayed home that day.
wfh doesnt mean didnt go out.... I just didnt go into work. Had plenty of play time out on the roads.
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:20 PM   #29
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Using snow tires. Staying home on a nasty snow day.

Those are both good ideas.....
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:18 PM   #30
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I drove to work, no real problems with performance snows (Dunlop M3). Only issues were trying to change lanes on unplowed roads. My car would bottom out in the deep snow so it was hard to get out of the ruts.

The other issue was all of the slow pokes on all seasons or who were just too scared to drive at least 1/2 the speed limit. They kept slowing on uphill sections... almost got both of us stuck!

I left work early as I was worried the snow would get too deep. When I got home my whole grill was blocked with snow.
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