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Old 05-02-2012, 10:13 AM   #31
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There is nothing wrong with trackdays.

And its not like all cars barely make it off the track at them either. Op made an error and paid for it. At a well run track day he wouldve been black flagged for sure. Doesnt mean one cant get out for some lapping on the cheap at an event like this. You just have to keep your wits about you and realize you arent running the nurburgring on ps3.


*obviously the school is a great thing to attend but to play it off like its the only suitable or decent option seems a bit biased.


The more track days out there the better imho.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:35 AM   #32
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There is nothing wrong with trackdays.

And its not like all cars barely make it off the track at them either. Op made an error and paid for it. At a well run track day he wouldve been black flagged for sure. Doesnt mean one cant get out for some lapping on the cheap at an event like this. You just have to keep your wits about you and realize you arent running the nurburgring on ps3.


*obviously the school is a great thing to attend but to play it off like its the only suitable or decent option seems a bit biased.


The more track days out there the better imho.

I'd just like to clarify that my "Dive-Bomb" was not a dive into the corner.. it was an off-line pull against him on the straight with me backing off into the corner which led me to under-steer into the curb (no where near him) due to being offline. It was only an offline error and really not worth a black-flag. I wouldn't have been black-flagged at a "well run event" for that. Although there was a lot of good info in this thread about attending schools/instruction.. some of you "bad-ass racing drivers" really need to get over yourselves.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:41 AM   #33
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If you tried to pull a Ayrton Senna on the track ..

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Old 05-02-2012, 11:57 AM   #34
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There is nothing wrong with trackdays.

And its not like all cars barely make it off the track at them either. Op made an error and paid for it. At a well run track day he wouldve been black flagged for sure. Doesnt mean one cant get out for some lapping on the cheap at an event like this. You just have to keep your wits about you and realize you arent running the nurburgring on ps3.


*obviously the school is a great thing to attend but to play it off like its the only suitable or decent option seems a bit biased.


The more track days out there the better imho.
Definetly not biased.
The school makes you realize how shitty those cheap, poorly organized trackdays really are. Not a jab at you guys, but the attendees reflect the reputation too.

I attended a $250 JRP day last July at MOsport GP with a couple friends.....(couldn't pass it up at that price) boy did the price ever reflect how it was organized.

In the morning it started 2 hours late....(They were short marshalls)
There was A and B group......you know how they distinguished between the two?
"Hey, you been here before?" Yeah........"okay you're in A group".
gives me a sticker and walks away.

The drivers meeting was a joke. One of the marshalls had to chime in at the end on track safety, passing....etc because this guy had no clue and ended the drivers meeting without going over any of this stuff.

At least 10 cars must have crashed/written off cars because they were idiots.
Myself included, but that was a maintenance issue, not driving like a retard.

After I smacked my car in a wall, they bring out an attendees friends jeep cherokee to pull me off the track. Didn't clean up the coolant that I slipped on (it was from my car) nor even bother to f***in check the track to make sure there wasn't any left.
Before the day started we made a bet on how many cars would crash by the end of the day.....
I said 5
at the end at least 10 crashed


Maybe I'm a snob now. But Trillium and BMW Toronto
are the only ones I will ever attend. I don't care what amazing price another organizer has. There's a reason for it.
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:31 PM   #35
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There is risk with lots of things in life...even the schools.

You come across clowns all the time even out on the street(even more so). I see no problem with track days, even if "poorly run". Some of them are just alternating sessions. Go out there, do your thing and have fun. Dont try to be a hero and youll be fine. Ive done track days for yrs and both the trackdays and schools have their place. If you want to limit yourself to schools only thats perfectly acceptable but dont hate on the open track days because thats the route you chose to go. Theres nothing wrong with them.

Though I think your first problem was going to a "jrp" track day. lol Plenty of other places who organize a lapping day and everything is fine. Once you get into some of the bigger names (with less experience) organizing stuff it attracts too many clowns(cscs for example) so if you choose to go to that you have to be even more careful.

I just dont see trackdays as a bad thing. the more the better, even if "poorly run.

Ive been to many open trackdays over the yrs and never had a single problem. Ive also attended some to watch and generally it was the super hyped up ones (jrp, cscs) that had the most issues. But even then the "issues" typically involved someone only hurting their car. No one elses.


The schools and open days have their place. Both are great and Im glad these options are available.

Crashes are a risk of racing on the track regardless of where it is or who is organizing the event.
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:38 PM   #36
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The schools and open days have their place.
Absolutely. What schools have you attended to make such a statement?
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There is risk with lots of things in life...even the schools.

You come across clowns all the time even out on the street(even more so). I see no problem with track days, even if "poorly run". Some of them are just alternating sessions. Go out there, do your thing and have fun. Dont try to be a hero and youll be fine. Ive done track days for yrs and both the trackdays and schools have their place. If you want to limit yourself to schools only thats perfectly acceptable but dont hate on the open track days because thats the route you chose to go. Theres nothing wrong with them.

Though I think your first problem was going to a "jrp" track day. lol Plenty of other places who organize a lapping day and everything is fine. Once you get into some of the bigger names (with less experience) organizing stuff it attracts too many clowns(cscs for example) so if you choose to go to that you have to be even more careful.

I just dont see trackdays as a bad thing. the more the better, even if "poorly run.

Ive been to many open trackdays over the yrs and never had a single problem. Ive also attended some to watch and generally it was the super hyped up ones (jrp, cscs) that had the most issues. But even then the "issues" typically involved someone only hurting their car. No one elses.


The schools and open days have their place. Both are great and Im glad these options are available.

Crashes are a risk of racing on the track regardless of where it is or who is organizing the event.
I don't think you read me right.
The risk is having a jackass running the event and noone understanding safety. Obviously you're taking a risk of ruining your car......That's not the point. The point is you can significantly reduce the risk by attending a well run event.
Don't forget the amount of time you lose waiting for clean-up of the fluid/debris or removal of the car.
And I agree with more track days the better. That keeps the yahoos away.
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:05 PM   #38
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Threads like this drive me up the wall. This is why you SHOULD do several performance driving schools prior to ever attempting a lapping day. Sure your $90 event fee doesn't seem so cheap now does it? $90 for the event, almost had to pay for a tow, (got lucky there) $300 for a tire. Next door at the GP track a far superior venue, we had a two day event with instruction for $499. 130 participants 50 instructors not one car damaged in any way over a 3 day weekend. Hmmmmmmmm. Not to mention a tax receipt for tax deductions next year, an event golf shirt, catered dinner Saturday pm including beers!!! Hmmmmmmmmmm again. BMWdouche you should come out to our next event June 2-3 at the Mosport GP track and see what it's all about!
Oh, I beg to differ. I believe my old car was there. lol
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:20 PM   #39
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Poor e90 owners. Can't afford a driving school.

I heard that SiR was signing up for a driving school this year.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:15 PM   #40
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Oh, I beg to differ. I believe my old car was there. lol
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I heard about a porsche being flat bedded off the track...

so something got hurt
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I heard about a porsche being flat bedded off the track...

so something got hurt
Where did this happen? Just cause a car is towed off a track doesn't mean it crashed.
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Like I said earlier not one incident. Something broke on that Porsche. Wow, why is everyone always trying to point out a mistake, or the negative. Keyboard warriors.....sheesh! SIR I'm still waiting for you to come out and introduce yourself. As far as anyone can make out here on max, or Trillium for that matter, you never leave your keyboard.......so how would you know about a Porsche leaving on a flatbed?
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Like I said earlier not one incident. Something broke on that Porsche. Wow, why is everyone always trying to point out a mistake, or the negative. Keyboard warriors.....sheesh! SIR I'm still waiting for you to come out and introduce yourself. As far as anyone can make out here on max, or Trillium for that matter, you never leave your keyboard.......so how would you know about a Porsche leaving on a flatbed?
Apparently he was there on the weekend. Kurt mentioned about a guy in Red E36 M3 that never spoke to anyone the entire time.

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