A few of the ///M

OVERKILL · 01-21-2012, 11:56 AM

Picked this car up in August, had 140,000Km on it.

It's a 2001 M5, LeMans Blue and bone-stock.

Plans for it this spring are a Corsa exhaust system and replacing the three remaining camshaft position sensors.

1. Guy from the dealership filling it up:

2. The requisite engine bay shot:

3. Sitting in the driveway at my parent's place:

4. Same place:

5. Interior:

6. Under the fill cap:

7. Her first oil change under my care:

We drove the car out to the east coast and back, and it performed flawlessly, put around 4,000Km on it during that trip. I've put about 15K on the car since I bought it and am very happy with it.

I had to replace the blower resistor module, both breather hoses, one CPS and it needed a tie-rod end for safety. It is also going to need a clutch. Pretty minor stuff and to be expected with a car that is now 11 years old.

noodles101 · 01-21-2012, 01:07 PM

what a beeaasstt !!

i thought the grandpa was you for a second LOL and then i read the small writing..LOL

OVERKILL · 01-21-2012, 01:48 PM

LOL! No, just the guy from the dealership who drove me up to get the car.

bmwmck · 01-21-2012, 01:48 PM

beauty! love the interior and the 6spd. also the newer M steering wheel looks great. good pick up!

OVERKILL · 01-21-2012, 01:51 PM

Thank you! I really love the car. It is hibernating at the moment, so I'm REALLY looking forward to spring! LOL!

**T.Dot_E30** · 01-21-2012, 02:37 PM

Nice, I like the color combo.

0w40?? Aren't those engines suppose to be 10W60?

OVERKILL · 01-21-2012, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by T.Dot_E30

Nice, I like the color combo.

0w40?? Aren't those engines suppose to be 10W60?

It is a post 03/00 car, it calls for an LL-01 oil, of which M1 0w40 is one.

bmwm5lover · 01-21-2012, 04:20 PM

Please run the correct oil. Let's not turn this into an oil thread but I highly recommend you read up on some oil info on the M5board. 10W60 Or bust. LL1 afaik has nothing to do with viscocity, rather type of oil which has the correct properties. 06/00 build date and I run 10W60 and wouldn't dream of anything else. I am at 205K now. (knock on wood)

Welcome,

Gorgeous colour combo. I put 40K in the 1st year of ownership. Love these cars.
See you at the meets.

OVERKILL · 01-21-2012, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwm5lover

Please run the correct oil. Let's not turn this into an oil thread but I highly recommend you read up on some oil info on the M5board. 10W60 Or bust. LL1 afaik has nothing to do with viscocity, rather type of oil which has the correct properties. 06/00 build date and I run 10W60 and wouldn't dream of anything else. I am at 205K now. (knock on wood)

Welcome,

Gorgeous colour combo. I put 40K in the 1st year of ownership. Love these cars.
See you at the meets.

No intention of turning this into an oil thread, I've participated in them enough on m5board, I'm also a veteran member of BITOG.

LL-01 spec's a minimum HTHS of 3.5cP. The oil I'm running is 3.8cP. This defines how "heavy" an oil is under high-temp/high-sheer conditions; how it behaves in the bearings.

This car, being dealer maintained up until I got it, would have been run on BMW 5w30 anyway

Thanks for the welcome and the compliments

1bmw1 · 01-26-2012, 12:08 AM

Beautiful M5! One of my favorite colors. Welcome aboard.

**dbworld4k** · 01-26-2012, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by OVERKILL

This car, being dealer maintained up until I got it, would have been run on BMW 5w30 anyway

Somehow I strongly doubt this. I'm 99% sure all M cars since the E46 and E39 used 10W60, especially from the dealer.

OVERKILL · 01-26-2012, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dbworld4k

Somehow I strongly doubt this. I'm 99% sure all M cars since the E46 and E39 used 10W60, especially from the dealer.

1. Car is originally from Alberta and was dealer serviced.

2. It has the "sticker" in the manual FROM BMW that states that the car calls for BMW LL-01 5w30 or equivalent oil. (This is sort of funny. The early cars and the later cars have the same manual. For the later cars, BMW put a sticker on the oil recommendation page changing it from TWS 10w60 to the LL-01 5w30 or equivalent, LOL!). Markings in the manual for the vehicle's service indicate that the manual/service guide for this vehicle was followed.

3. I also have a paper copy of the TSB FROM BMW stating that cars built after 03/00 call for BMW 5w30 LL-01 or equivalent oil meeting the LL-01 standard.

Here is a pic of the TIS (borrowed from M5board):

If you need a pic of the sticker in my manual, you'll have to wait until the car is out of storage.

This topic, the TIS document, the manual sticker, the under hood stickers, the whole freakin' works has been BEAT TO DEATH on m5board, so I do not want to, and am not going to get into it about TWS or LL-01 in this thread, as I've already stated. If you want to research the topic, go to M5board and search for it, there have been probably a thousand threads on it.

That being said, here is the abbreviated version of the story: Engines produced up to 03/00 had low tension piston rings and tended to burn a lot of oil. Engines produced post 03/00 supposedly had revised piston rings that alleviated this issue and allowed for the use of the "mainstream" BMW LL-01 5w30 oil (and its equivalents).

When I was M5 shopping, this was pretty much how it played out as well, cars that were early build date (the TWS cars) had relatively high oil consumption (1L/1000Km was not uncommon to hear from the owners), whilst the later cars did not. My example uses approximately 1L/8,000Km, which is perfectly reasonable for a relatively high strung V8 IMHO.

So MY CAR, which is a 2001, calls for LL-01. It has been getting, and will continue to get M1 0w40, which is an approved lubricant for THIS application.

OVERKILL · 01-26-2012, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 1bmw1

Beautiful M5! One of my favorite colors. Welcome aboard.

Thank you, one of my favourite colours as well. Reminds me a lot of Ford's "Sonic Blue".

**T.Dot_E30** · 01-26-2012, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OVERKILL

So MY CAR, which is a 2001, calls for LL-01. It has been getting, and will continue to get M1 0w40, which is an approved lubricant for THIS application.

Thanks, didn't mean to cause a shitstorm. I always thought they all needed 10W60.

OVERKILL · 01-26-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by T.Dot_E30

Thanks, didn't mean to cause a shitstorm. I always thought they all needed 10W60.

Hey, no problem, I think this application is a bit of an anomaly and probably why it causes so much controversy and confusion.

The S62 in the M5 and Z8 is perhaps a bit of an odd duck and I thought this whole topic was just as weird as you guys currently do when I first heard it.