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Old 12-05-2011, 05:17 PM   #1
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International Red Cross Called In To Help 100's of Canadian Communities



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Old 12-05-2011, 06:34 PM   #2
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I'm all for providing funds to the less privileged, I am not however for allocating huge amounts of money to go towards providing infrastructure in remote areas which greatly elevate the costs. Why should I the tax payer be forced to feel bad about not giving them adequate funding when it's their choice to keep themselves in a region so remote that the cost of providing said utilities doubles or triples? When you cannot get running water or a roof over your head in the GTA or Vancouver something needs to be done. When you've put yourself in a position where others need to go beyond what is considered reasonable to provide those resources you've dug your own hole. Have native communities been shafted for years? Absolutely! Does that mean that we should go above and beyond what would be provided for other non-native communities solely so they can support their traditions? In my opinion, no.
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Old 12-05-2011, 08:21 PM   #3
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I'm all for providing funds to the less privileged, I am not however for allocating huge amounts of money to go towards providing infrastructure in remote areas which greatly elevate the costs. Why should I the tax payer be forced to feel bad about not giving them adequate funding when it's their choice to keep themselves in a region so remote that the cost of providing said utilities doubles or triples? When you cannot get running water or a roof over your head in the GTA or Vancouver something needs to be done. When you've put yourself in a position where others need to go beyond what is considered reasonable to provide those resources you've dug your own hole. Have native communities been shafted for years? Absolutely! Does that mean that we should go above and beyond what would be provided for other non-native communities solely so they can support their traditions? In my opinion, no.
if the rcmp forcing you at gunpoint into reform school for abuse is 'putting yourself in that position' then ok.

meanwhile, contrast that to:

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Harper's 16 to 29 billion reasons for sending fighter jets to Libya

Would Stephen Harper attack Libya simply to justify spending tens of billions of dollars on F-35 fighter jets? Perhaps. But, add on doing it for major Canadian investors, reinforcing his "principled" foreign policy rhetoric and reasserting western control over a region in flux, and you pretty much have the range of reasons why a half dozen CF-18s four other military aircraft and naval frigate are currently engaged in combat 10,000 km away from Canadian soil.

Over the past few months the Conservative's plan to buy 65 F-35 Joint Strike Fighter jets has become a serious political headache. A recent poll showed 68 per cent of Canadians -- including a majority of Conservative supporters -- agreed that "now is not a good time" to spend between $16 and $29 billion on these controversial single-engine jets. So, sending Canadian military aircraft to enforce a UN "no-fly zone" in Libya provides an opportunity to soften opposition to the F-35 purchase, an issue bound to be a hot topic in the election campaign that formally began Saturday. Most critics of the F-35 purchase -- from the NDP's Michael Byers to Project Ploughshares Ernie Regehr to Liberal foreign affairs critic Bob Rae -- support the "humanitarian" mission in Libya. With these and other liberal interventionists supporting a bombing campaign in North Africa, Harper can more easily justify spending nearly $1,000 per Canadian on the best fighter jets money can buy. (Québec housing group, FRAPRU, claims the cost of a single F-35 equals 6,400 social housing units.)

Conveniently, the right-wing press has already begun to connect the dots in support of the Harper government. An Ottawa Citizen headline read, "Libya shows why Canada needs jets," while a Sun Media chain commentary explained, "enforcing a ‘no-fly' zone to shut down a dictator is an expeditionary air operation. Is that something Canadians want to be able to do in the future? If yes, you need an F-35, expensive or not."

Over the past five years, the Conservatives have further militarized Canadian foreign policy. Military spending is at its highest level since World War II -- the Harper government expanded Canada's role in the occupation of Afghanistan, claimed that Russia is planning to attack and sent 2,000 troops to police Haitians after a devastating earthquake.

The Conservatives draw significant support from the military as well as its associated companies and culture. To get us in the fighting spirit, for instance, the Canadian Forces released onboard video footage of a CF-18 destroying a ground target in Libya.

But there is more to it than pleasing the Great White North's version of the military-industrial complex. On March 21, The Financial Times reported that western oil companies were worried that if Gaddafi defeated the rebels in the east of Libya he would nationalize their operations out of anger at the west's duplicity. Presumably, this includes Suncor, Canada's second largest corporation, which signed a multi-billion dollar 30-year oil concession with Libya in 2008.

Home to the second largest amount of Canadian investment in Africa, instability in Libya has put a couple billion dollars worth of this country's corporate investment in jeopardy. Dru Oja Jay, editor of the Dominion and a candidate for the Mountain Equipment Co-op Board of Directors, notes "Canadian investors are legitimately worried about what's going to happen to the $1 billion signing bonus Suncor paid out to the Libyan government, or whether SNC-Lavalin is going to recoup its investments in the country, which is home to 10 per cent of its workforce."And these are some of this country's most powerful corporations. Embassy magazine includes both Suncor and SNC-Lavalin's CEOs among the nine most influential business executives in determining Canadian foreign policy.


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if the rcmp forcing you at gunpoint into reform school for abuse is 'putting yourself in that position' then ok.

meanwhile, contrast that to:
I like how quickly you spin onto another topic just to prove how vast your list of bookmarked pages is. You are so outside the realm of knowledge when it comes to the purchase of those jets, what they're replacing and why they're necessary that I'm not going anywhere with you on that subject. Pick a topic and stick with it, at least South can form a solid argument and doesn't have to link to video's and news stories to fight his case. Maybe if you were capable of doing the same I'd give you a tidbit of respect.

Prior atrocities perpetrated by a past government do not mean all future generations of Aboriginals should receive compensation, there comes a time when one must say enough has been paid back in terms of finances. They expect a free ride because of pain and suffering they themselves have never had to endure beyond what they've inflicted upon themselves or what they've mentally put themselves through. I had relatives who died as civilians during WW2 at the hands of a tyrant the world has not seen in half a century, should I be entitled to a life in which I can sit in my house paid for by the government of the nation which carried out those acts? Of course not, nor should every Aboriginal person.
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:25 PM   #5
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I like how quickly you spin onto another topic just to prove how vast your list of bookmarked pages is. You are so outside the realm of knowledge when it comes to the purchase of those jets, what they're replacing and why they're necessary that I'm not going anywhere with you on that subject. Pick a topic and stick with it, at least South can form a solid argument and doesn't have to link to video's and news stories to fight his case. Maybe if you were capable of doing the same I'd give you a tidbit of respect.

LOL beautiful trolololo. isn't you iimmediately hopping into a different subject: insulting me, slightly hypocritical? why yes, yes it is.

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Prior atrocities perpetrated by a past government do not mean all future generations of Aboriginals should receive compensation, there comes a time when one must say enough has been paid back in terms of finances. They expect a free ride because of pain and suffering they themselves have never had to endure beyond what they've inflicted upon themselves or what they've mentally put themselves through. I had relatives who died as civilians during WW2 at the hands of a tyrant the world has not seen in half a century, should I be entitled to a life in which I can sit in my house paid for by the government of the nation which carried out those acts? Of course not, nor should every Aboriginal person.
Hahaha - yeah like every Treaty thats been broken, all of em: yeah that was a previous gov, so you free loaders that we conducted genocide against, over many gov's, can go starve - freeloaders. meanwhile how many missles would you like on those way over $30BILLION in jets to go blow up innocent kids in foreign countries to jack their resources?
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:00 PM   #6
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LOL beautiful trolololo. isn't you iimmediately hopping into a different subject: insulting me, slightly hypocritical? why yes, yes it is.
When did I change subjects? You did a 360, switched from Aboriginals to fighter's and claim I'm bouncing around? You haven't taken your meds today...have you?

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I'm not saying they're not deserving of some financial support, I am saying however they're not entitled to a free ride for eternity, especially when they choose to remove themselves so far from reality of the world they live in. There comes a time when a debt is paid, and that time has come and passed. I'm not going to sit back and keep my mouth shut as my tax dollars are going to someone who has not even directly suffered under a residential school, but are suffering by their choice to not accept responsibility for their own life.

They'll want handouts for eternity if we allow it, it's unacceptable that the kin of past generations are still paying/profiting off this. A huge number of aboriginal groups piss away what they're given to better their lives, should we continue throwing this money away to those who are not willing to make the effort to better themselves with handouts simply out of guilt? I spent my entire youth around native communities and can say some of my best friends are aboriginal, they too are disgusted by the way some of their people expect so much but do so little.
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Old 12-11-2011, 12:57 AM   #7
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When did I change subjects? You did a 360, switched from Aboriginals to fighter's and claim I'm bouncing around? You haven't taken your meds today...have you?
haha! no, its the same subject -government gives a hard time to natives while blowing billions on fighter jets. or its like (same subject again) the gov giving billions in corporate welfare in the HST, while adding 7+% tax to electricity & certain food items - During a huge Recession



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I'm not saying they're not deserving of some financial support, I am saying however they're not entitled to a free ride for eternity, especially when they choose to remove themselves so far from reality of the world they live in. There comes a time when a debt is paid, and that time has come and passed. I'm not going to sit back and keep my mouth shut as my tax dollars are going to someone who has not even directly suffered under a residential school, but are suffering by their choice to not accept responsibility for their own life.

They'll want handouts for eternity if we allow it, it's unacceptable that the kin of past generations are still paying/profiting off this. A huge number of aboriginal groups piss away what they're given to better their lives, should we continue throwing this money away to those who are not willing to make the effort to better themselves with handouts simply out of guilt? I spent my entire youth around native communities and can say some of my best friends are aboriginal, they too are disgusted by the way some of their people expect so much but do so little.
man that is some serious revisionist denial!
the last reform school was closed in 95!




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The Protect Your Children Foundation in collaboration with the Vatican Crimes Exposed Organization had the honor of interviewing Kevin Annett, Secretary of the ITCC - International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State - in Brantford, Ontario on November 29, 2011 in order to document this week's discovery of children's remains found at the Mohawk Institute - the Anglican Indian Residential School, one of many church-run institutions where thousands of native children were forcibly institutionalized, abused, tortured and murdered.

No one has yet been put behind bars for these crimes. The Crown of England, the Government, the RCMP, and the churches including Anglican, Catholic, Presbyterian, Protestant amongst others - worked hand in hand to harm over 150,000 innocent indigenous children of Canada and as government reports indicate over 50% of the children emitted died.

Enough is enough! Justice must be served. Let's stop supporting these lying criminal churches who use the Lord's name in vain to committ crimes. Let's stop giving these religions tax exemptions, respect or even our time - as they have been deceiving the world, enslavting the nations for money and power - teaching things they ought not to for filthy lucre's sake (Titus 1:10-11).

This genocide was an organized crime scheme implemented by Church and State not just in Canada, but also in USA, Ireland, Australia, amongst other nations. It's time for the world to learn the truth about the crimes committed by the priests and nuns



and speaking of missmanagement & pissing away money; how about harpers Main (ex) advisor that just got charged with fraud?
yeah he got his 21 year old escort fiance a job with a co doing the water for the reserves. she'd make 20% commission of the millions in contracts for water systems

but its ok for our politicians to borrow money from the imf/fedres at interest that future generations of canadians not yet even born will have to pay for, while making their(escort fiances)'s well off at all our expense?

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Dug the thread up for this link

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