Click to go to Forum Home Click to go to maXbimmer Home

Go Back   maXbimmer Forums > maXimum Tech > 3 Series > E36 (1991 - 1999)
User Name
Password


Welcome to Maxbimmer.com!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 06-07-2011, 10:54 PM   #1
iverson03tj
5th Gear Member
 
iverson03tj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 928
Alignment Specs

Hey guys, i just swapped in my rear end and changed a few front suspension and m3 brake upgrade... so now im shopping around for alignment.

What specs do i align the car for? i'm not really looking for anything aggressive, since this is my daily car that i drive about 60,000km a year in... so tire wear does matter a bit, especially since its lowered... and i don't have any camber plates or rear adjustable LCA's.

Any info would be much appreciated, Like if any one had good experience with certain shops, and what specs i should keep it at... i heard alot of people ging with 95 m3 specs, is there a reason for this?
__________________
e39 M5 (s62)- Muffler Delete, Timmay Tips,
e30 325ic - Hard Top, Matte Black
e36 328is - (m52)AA S/c'd, M50 Mani, 3.23 LSD, M3 Brakes, Zimmer rotors, hps pads, Racing Dynamic Strut Bar, Depos, m3 Bumper, Intake, Spal fan, poly RTABs, Eibach Swaybars, Koni yellow, Mishimoto Rad, Silicone hose, Alumi T-housing, Depo w/LED Angels, LED tails, 12' Alpine Type R, Suede head liner, LTW Low rise spoiler
PREVIOUS CARS
92' 325is (m52) - M3 conversion AA S/c'd
'97 Euro Estroil E36 M3 Vert (S50B32)
iverson03tj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2011, 04:27 PM   #2
sparkybp
Tortures BMWs.
 
sparkybp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kitchener, Ontario
Posts: 347
95 m3 specs most aggressive. front end requires offset lower control arm bushings. if you just want a little more grip in the corners don't bother. check the bentley manual as it has a complete specification sheet for e36 alignments including the m3. you may also want to google "the definitive alignment guide" for e36 m3.
__________________
Good discounts on all OEM and good quality aftermarket BMW parts. 519-498-9660.
sparkybp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2011, 09:00 PM   #3
SiR
Vtec just kicked in
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: TO
Posts: 2,719
Quote:
Originally Posted by sparkybp View Post
"the definitive alignment guide" for e36 m3.
on bimmerforums
__________________
-||Old Crayons||-
SiR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2011, 02:03 AM   #4
iverson03tj
5th Gear Member
 
iverson03tj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 928
ok thanks guys much appreciated!! anyone know a good alignment shop?
__________________
e39 M5 (s62)- Muffler Delete, Timmay Tips,
e30 325ic - Hard Top, Matte Black
e36 328is - (m52)AA S/c'd, M50 Mani, 3.23 LSD, M3 Brakes, Zimmer rotors, hps pads, Racing Dynamic Strut Bar, Depos, m3 Bumper, Intake, Spal fan, poly RTABs, Eibach Swaybars, Koni yellow, Mishimoto Rad, Silicone hose, Alumi T-housing, Depo w/LED Angels, LED tails, 12' Alpine Type R, Suede head liner, LTW Low rise spoiler
PREVIOUS CARS
92' 325is (m52) - M3 conversion AA S/c'd
'97 Euro Estroil E36 M3 Vert (S50B32)
iverson03tj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2011, 08:55 AM   #5
sproule905
6th Gear Member
 
sproule905's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: The Landing
Posts: 1,326
woodbridge alignment.. no appointments.
__________________

sproule905 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2011, 12:36 PM   #6
iverson03tj
5th Gear Member
 
iverson03tj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 928
Ok so i called up a few places and i found out something interesting... http://www.limitlessauto.com/wa.html They got camber kits for front and back for only $160... so im really thinking of going with this... has anyone ever tried these camber kits... its not camber plates or the lower control arm.. its just different eccentric bolts i belive.... And i would love adjustable ones but i cant justify spending 400 + for camber plates and lower camber arms.. if i get the same thing with the $160 kit....

My car is my daily driver and i do alot of highway driving.. and its lowered... so im going with what bf.c said and going with

Front
Camber: -2.5 deg (per side)
Toe: 0 (or 0.10 to 0.20 deg total toe in for mostly highway driving)

Rear
Camber: -1.5 to -2 deg (per side)
Toe: 0.20 total toe in (IIRC this is 1/8" total toe in)

I am going to do a lot of highway driving so im thinking 0.10 toe for the front.

For the rear camber should i go with -1.5 or -2 deg... what would be the advantages ---1.5 vs -2.0 deg?
__________________
e39 M5 (s62)- Muffler Delete, Timmay Tips,
e30 325ic - Hard Top, Matte Black
e36 328is - (m52)AA S/c'd, M50 Mani, 3.23 LSD, M3 Brakes, Zimmer rotors, hps pads, Racing Dynamic Strut Bar, Depos, m3 Bumper, Intake, Spal fan, poly RTABs, Eibach Swaybars, Koni yellow, Mishimoto Rad, Silicone hose, Alumi T-housing, Depo w/LED Angels, LED tails, 12' Alpine Type R, Suede head liner, LTW Low rise spoiler
PREVIOUS CARS
92' 325is (m52) - M3 conversion AA S/c'd
'97 Euro Estroil E36 M3 Vert (S50B32)
iverson03tj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2011, 01:34 PM   #7
ScotcH
6th Gear Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Ottawa, ON
Posts: 1,860
They're called crash bolts. Basically used to compensate for bent components, but can be used to adjust things as well. You can also just use shims (ie, washers) on the front for more camber. Being lowered, you likely won't need too much to get to -2.5.

For rear, you won't need to do anything. it's already adjustable to about -2 for camber. I would stick with -2 in the rear. it's the M3 setup, and you'll get a bit more traction in turns. The setup specs you posted are great for a daily driver.
__________________
2007 BMW 328Xi Touring, 6 speed
ScotcH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2011, 02:51 PM   #8
iverson03tj
5th Gear Member
 
iverson03tj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 928
Ok thanks scotch, so i wont be needed the crash bolts on the rear (80 more bucks to spend on other parts)

And for the front i will tell them to put washers first before getting crash bolts
__________________
e39 M5 (s62)- Muffler Delete, Timmay Tips,
e30 325ic - Hard Top, Matte Black
e36 328is - (m52)AA S/c'd, M50 Mani, 3.23 LSD, M3 Brakes, Zimmer rotors, hps pads, Racing Dynamic Strut Bar, Depos, m3 Bumper, Intake, Spal fan, poly RTABs, Eibach Swaybars, Koni yellow, Mishimoto Rad, Silicone hose, Alumi T-housing, Depo w/LED Angels, LED tails, 12' Alpine Type R, Suede head liner, LTW Low rise spoiler
PREVIOUS CARS
92' 325is (m52) - M3 conversion AA S/c'd
'97 Euro Estroil E36 M3 Vert (S50B32)
iverson03tj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2011, 05:51 PM   #9
JunzieB
Wants more powaaa!
 
JunzieB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: B-Town
Posts: 1,461
Quote:
Originally Posted by sparkybp View Post
"the definitive alignment guide" for e36 m3.
http://www.e36-tech.com/forum/the-de...-e36-2102.html

Good call, found the information useful when i was looking into alignment specs.
__________________


Quote:
Disclaimer:The opinions expressed by JunzieB is his alone and does not reflect the opinions of Maxbimmer or any members thereof. JunzieB is not responsible for any hurt feelings that may develop during the reading of his posts.
JunzieB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2011, 10:28 AM   #10
sb_600
5th Gear Member
 
sb_600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Ottawa, ON
Posts: 1,183
Quote:
Originally Posted by iverson03tj View Post
Ok thanks scotch, so i wont be needed the crash bolts on the rear (80 more bucks to spend on other parts)

And for the front i will tell them to put washers first before getting crash bolts
With my car lowered on the eibach sportlines, I put 5mm of washers on the bottom two strut bolts (make SURE to get longer bolts - 25mm grade 10.9), and I had -2.8 of neg. camber up front. cost me around $10
__________________
Shawn
1992 BMW 325i (CHUMPCAR #296 - Metric Homes Racing)
1992 3.0L M52 325i (ex-daily driver - track car only)
2002 330Ci (ex-daily driver - sold!)

sb_600 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2011, 06:51 PM   #11
325isdan
5th Gear Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: GTA
Posts: 1,094
Just by washers and longer bolts and save yourself $75. those shim kits are a rip off.
325isdan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.