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Old 03-09-2011, 11:03 PM   #16
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Depending on your current spring rates and what the shocks are valved for, 500 or 600 lbs springs may be too much for the shocks.
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Old 03-10-2011, 01:37 PM   #17
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^ Maybe, but they're OTS Koni SAs so revalving should be simple.
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Old 03-10-2011, 02:14 PM   #18
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^ Maybe, but they're OTS Koni SAs so revalving should be simple.
Very true. If I remember, Tevor has FKs?

I'm guessing theyre one of the brands that puts a softer spring in the rear.

Stiffening up the back will help turn in substantially.



Trevor, if you get te shocks revalved, send them to Truechoice. They rebuilt my Tcklines on the track car for around $150 per shock. But single adjustables should be cheaper.

By the time I shipped them, I had them back within a week as well.
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Old 03-10-2011, 03:58 PM   #19
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Yes, they are FK coils with Koni SAs.
FK Doesn't publish their spring rates, but they are on the soft side (which i originally wanted, didn't want things too stiff).
I'm planning to take out the helper springs this year.

Thanks for the suggestion, ill look into it if i go with stiffer springs. Or i'd just go with rears that are externally adjustable and valved correctly as adjusting the current ones suck.



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Very true. If I remember, Tevor has FKs?

Trevor, if you get te shocks revalved, send them to Truechoice. They rebuilt my Tcklines on the track car for around $150 per shock. But single adjustables should be cheaper.
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Old 03-10-2011, 04:08 PM   #20
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Yeah, that's a better idea. Top adjustable rears already valved to match > Revalving hard to adjust ones.

I'd still try heavier springs on the same dampers. I know the E30 rear Konis can properly handle 600lb/in on the high end, wonder if E36 ones are similar.
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Old 03-10-2011, 06:06 PM   #21
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Koni SAs can handle 600-650 on the front. In the rear they are good for 900-1000lbs easy. That's what I have (900 rear) and they have more to give. Confirmed by Ground Control.
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i think 400-450 is a great street/performance balance.

i would get camber plates too.
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Koni SAs can handle 600-650 on the front. In the rear they are good for 900-1000lbs easy. That's what I have (900 rear) and they have more to give. Confirmed by Ground Control.
That's interesting. My TcKlines can only handle a maximum of 700 lb's. Single or double adjustable. Then they just run out of adjustment.

You sure its the same for E36's?

I don't see why Ground Controls would be valved so differently.
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That's interesting. My TcKlines can only handle a maximum of 700 lb's. Single or double adjustable. Then they just run out of adjustment.

You sure its the same for E36's?

I don't see why Ground Controls would be valved so differently.
In the front or the rear? 600 lbs in the front is like 900 in the rear. This is just off-the-shelf SAs. Granted it's for the E30 but I assume E36 spec shocks are probably pretty much the same thing.

EDIT: quick google for typical E36 rates seems to suggest the spring is relatively closer to the shock in the E36, so it's not as badly disadvantaged by the leverage as in the E30, so maybe it's significantly less. But still, whatever it can take in the front, it will take more in the rear, just because the shock is further up the arm than the spring.
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Ok thanks, it sounds like I should try them first before buying/re-valving the shocks.
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Ok thanks, it sounds like I should try them first before buying/re-valving the shocks.
Give GC a call, they're awesome guys. Say that you want to talk to someone about E36 coil overs and if the guy who picked up the phone isn't an expert, he'll transfer you to the E36 guy. Tell him you've got Koni SAs and you want to know how much you can run in the back before overwhelming them. You'll get the real poop.
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