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Old 01-12-2011, 06:39 PM   #16
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I'm shopping for a new car come summer. I was prepared for maintenance but not the unreliability.
Hey Me too! We should look together.


Phil,
Sorry to hear about your troubles....again
I had my clutch slave cylinder go right before christmas, on a Sunday, right before I was supposed to drive to Toronto. Lucky for me I had a spare laying around. But had to spend Sunday replacing it. Pain in the ass.
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Old 01-12-2011, 06:50 PM   #17
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I am thinking spring for my car shopping. Or possibly this weekend. I am just sick of having a car that I don't trust.
I've got a 2007 subaru for sale if you're interested

http://www.autocatch.com/used-cars/2...eza~474105.htm

awesome for the winter too!

Seriously though - good luck with your car. I hope it all works out
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Old 01-12-2011, 07:45 PM   #18
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Stupid BMW family. There's a damn nice 330i for sale at Luxury Imports. I'd even say it's affordable. http://www.autocatch.com/uid/488595

OR

I could be responsible and get a new Civic for the same price.
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Old 01-12-2011, 09:38 PM   #19
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Looks like all other Ottawa E39 owners are trying to get rid of their cars. :shifty
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:16 AM   #20
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Look, only the 530i owners are keeping their cars saying they are reliable. :p
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:44 AM   #21
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I picked the car up, and the first thing Todd said when I walked into his shop was "Phil, it's time to sell the BMW." Nothing like an intervention from the man who stands to profit if you keep it to make you think it's time to sell.

Of course the clutch and all associated moving parts feel awesome now. Damn.

As for that 330I, it looks great, and I LOOOOOOVE those rims, but I have heard some bad stuff about that era of BMW. Replacing the heads kind of bad.

And, given my history with BMWs, I don't want iDrive. That goes wrong, and you could be in a world of hurt.

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Old 01-14-2011, 02:53 PM   #22
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Time to sell? Oh damn....did he explain why?

E90's are bad? really? I know of the HPFP issues with the turbo models but I thought the non turbos were safe. Crap.

Update on my car, brought it in, enough messing around. Intake manifold leak. Hopefully it's just the gaskets. If not, I may set it on fire.
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Old 01-14-2011, 03:49 PM   #23
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I can't say for sure they're bad en masse, but they did have to send an engineering team out from Bavaria to look at some issues. The oil pump they used in the 2006 models (or so I have read -- not sure if this still applies) is an electric design, which pumps only the amount of oil that is needed, and not full-out all of the time. As a result, there is some oil drainback in the head, resulting in lifter ticking, which gets a little rough on the cams. Automobile magazine had this problem on their test 330I, and they got a new cylinder head out of it, IIRC.

I haven't read much else that I can recall, but I did drive a 325I of the same vintage and really liked it until reading about the cylinder head.
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:33 PM   #24
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Alrighty then. I'll be VTEC-ing in the near future...
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IMO if a BMW has a known issue, there is a 90% chance it will happen to you.
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Old 01-16-2011, 05:24 PM   #26
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My 2008 E90 has been rock solid. Since its a 323i (which is the same as the older E90 325i) and doesn't have a lot of options, I think it will actually be a good car going forward. No nav, no idrive, no high stressed motor, but the sports package gives me great suspension and 205HP is good enough, I can tell you. 6 speed manual doesn't hurt.

Maybe we'll see a trend in the future where the loaded versions of cars, like the 330 / 335 will decrease MORE in value than the 325 / 323 simply due to complexity and reliability. Interesting thought.

I've seen E90 323i for under $20K, fyi.
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My 2008 E90 has been rock solid. Since its a 323i (which is the same as the older E90 325i) and doesn't have a lot of options, I think it will actually be a good car going forward. No nav, no idrive, no high stressed motor, but the sports package gives me great suspension and 205HP is good enough, I can tell you. 6 speed manual doesn't hurt.

Maybe we'll see a trend in the future where the loaded versions of cars, like the 330 / 335 will decrease MORE in value than the 325 / 323 simply due to complexity and reliability. Interesting thought.

I've seen E90 323i for under $20K, fyi.
The 323 is a 2.5l. The 325 is a 3.0l (same as the 330, and similar to the 328). I really don't think the 323 will hold it's value any better than the others ... the 335 is really the only one with higher complexity and possible issues.

do NOT NOT NOT under any circumstance even entertain the autotragic transmission in these cars ... they are pure shit. I can't believe BMW would can even sell that wit ha straight face. I had a 335i auto loaner, and it was such a let down.
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Oops, you're right, it was the euro 325 that was the 2.5L. Anyway, I was referring to the "breakage" factor of the higher end features available to the 328 / 335 vs 323. iDrive, convenience unlock / start, etc.

What makes you say the automatic is pure shit? Otto's gave me a 2010 328i for the day last month during an oil change and it was smooth as butter. The only thing that is stupid is the sport mode, which simply does everything seemingly the same, but one gear down.

Or are you referring to maintenance / reliability?

On a side note, I've been looking at E60 M5's. Want to talk about tranmission issues, lol. One report I read said that an estimated 10% of 2006 M5 transmissions were replaced, 2% replaced *twice*.

Holy shit.
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Maybe we'll see a trend in the future where the loaded versions of cars, like the 330 / 335 will decrease MORE in value than the 325 / 323 simply due to complexity and reliability. Interesting thought.
That's almost already the trend now. Generally speaking I think, the higher the model the faster it depreciates as a percentage of it's original purchase price. 5 series depreciates faster than a 3 series, and 7 series faster than a 5 series. A similar condition 530 would be priced similarly to a 540 on the used market right now. And I haven't actually done the math or anything, but I would suspect that say a used 330 on the used market is not as much more than a 325 as it was when they were new.
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On a side note, I've been looking at E60 M5's. Want to talk about tranmission issues, lol. One report I read said that an estimated 10% of 2006 M5 transmissions were replaced, 2% replaced *twice*.

Holy shit.
Yikes

Didn't BMW cave in at one point and start offering 6 speed manuals on the e60 m5? Surely those wouldn't have high failure rates, nothing new about them, and would probably be pretty rock solid.
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