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Old 12-05-2010, 10:51 PM   #1
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Smell of smoke and no start

I went to start my 89 325ix tonight and got no start, just the smell of smoke in the car, no start.



I have since done some poking around with a volt meter and found the following:



- there is 12v where the big battery cable connects to the starter

- when I turn the key to start, I can hear the starter solenoid click

- if I jumper pins 11 and 14 in the diagnostics connector, the starter solenoid clicks

- no fuses appear to be blown

- all other electronics appear to work properly



This all seems to indicate that the starter is fried, but it does not explain the smell of smoke in the car.



Any thoughts or ideas on what to look for??
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Old 12-06-2010, 06:17 AM   #2
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Could be a faulty wire to the starter. Smell of smoke is a fried wire. I just had this happen to me but mine was the alt wire. I would check those wires.
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Old 12-06-2010, 02:06 PM   #3
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Take jumper cables and put one negative clamp to your oil drain plug and the other end to the steering rack and then try starting the car, if it starts then its your body ground wire (the one that connects to the oil pan to the left of the alternator).
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Old 12-06-2010, 02:45 PM   #4
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Take jumper cables and put one negative clamp to your oil drain plug and the other end to the steering rack and then try starting the car, if it starts then its your body ground wire (the one that connects to the oil pan to the left of the alternator).
Sounds like a complicated way of doing it; hooking up the motor to say a bolt on the shock tower has always worked for me.
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Old 12-06-2010, 03:42 PM   #5
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I went to start my 89 325ix tonight and got no start, just the smell of smoke in the car, no start.



I have since done some poking around the exhaust with a volt meter and found the following:



- there is 12v where the big battery cable connects to the starter

- when I turn the key to start, I can hear the starter solenoid click

- if I jumper pins 11 and 14 in the diagnostics connector, the starter solenoid clicks

- no fuses appear to be blown

- all other electronics appear to work properly



This all seems to indicate that the starter is fried, but it does not explain the smell of smoke in the car.



Any thoughts or ideas on what to look for??
where is the smoke coming from?
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Old 12-06-2010, 04:57 PM   #6
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Take jumper cables and put one negative clamp to your oil drain plug and the other end to the steering rack and then try starting the car, if it starts then its your body ground wire (the one that connects to the oil pan to the left of the alternator).
Ok there McGuiver! Like Rudy said, just run a ground from the block to any of the shock tower bolts... I'd be willing to guess it's the ground on the driver's side.
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Old 12-07-2010, 01:28 AM   #7
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Whats so complicated i said oil drain plug to steering rack, whats the difference shock tower to block or drain plug to steering rack. Same amount of work (hardly any) but grounds your from your oil pan (how its supposed to be grounded).
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Old 12-07-2010, 06:32 PM   #8
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:37 PM   #9
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Tried grounding the block to the body, no change.

Put in a new starter, still no start. Now the solenoid is not clicking any more.

Tested the electrical signals to the starter again, everything seems good so I pulled the new starter. Bench test says the new starter is fuct too.

Took new starter back and got another new one. This starter works properly. All is now good, the problem was just with the starter. Thanks for the help!!
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