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11-18-2010, 01:55 AM
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#136
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2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Markham
Posts: 249
Car: 3Series
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Great build.
have you considered using Por15 first before the filler.
http://www.por15canada.com/can/preventrustpaint.asp
It's used widely in classic car restoration.
For surface rust areas...that you are not cutting out..
Grind down well, use the marine cleaner to clean the metal, use the metal prep spray as directed, then put Por-15 over it.
before it dries (2-3 hours), put on a coat of regular primer..... then you can start bodywork again as normal....
It's used on frame rails, suspension pieces etc that are naturally rusty...
dries rock hard, and air tight... thus stopping the rust.
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11-18-2010, 12:27 PM
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#137
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Port Perry
Posts: 7,631
Car: God's Chariot
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Thanks!
Yeah, I actually tried Por-15 for the first time this year on my E30 back in April, but I wasn't exactly impressed with it. Usually stuffs rusts from the inside out, so the seams, channels and whatnot you cannot get into. Even with a few coats of Por-15, and half a year later you can see traces of the rust coming back out again. It only works IF you can coat the entire area that is affected 100%, otherwise it is no better than regular paint. If you could dip the car, or at least the bottom of it, then yes I would agree that would definitely be a better option. But insides of rockers, frame rails, etc I can't get to.
The surface rust areas like the outer body I will just wire wheel, and primer/paint over. With a few good coats of paint (both sides), it should seal it well enough to stop the rust. Tremclad FTW!
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11-18-2010, 06:57 PM
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#138
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5erholic
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North York
Posts: 1,389
Car: 1980 528i (E12)
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cool man...at least you know how to weld. I have no frickin clue
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11-18-2010, 07:16 PM
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#139
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2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Markham
Posts: 249
Car: 3Series
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Quote:
Originally Posted by craz azn
Thanks!
Yeah, I actually tried Por-15 for the first time this year on my E30 back in April, but I wasn't exactly impressed with it. Usually stuffs rusts from the inside out, so the seams, channels and whatnot you cannot get into. Even with a few coats of Por-15, and half a year later you can see traces of the rust coming back out again. It only works IF you can coat the entire area that is affected 100%, otherwise it is no better than regular paint. If you could dip the car, or at least the bottom of it, then yes I would agree that would definitely be a better option. But insides of rockers, frame rails, etc I can't get to.
The surface rust areas like the outer body I will just wire wheel, and primer/paint over. With a few good coats of paint (both sides), it should seal it well enough to stop the rust. Tremclad FTW!
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Rust on seams are difficult ... almost impossible to fix without replacement or cutting it out and rebuilding it. That's the fate of a lot of e30's & eE36's... door seams rust like crazy.... Rustproofing really does help that!!!!
The surface rust... Por15 is best for that. It works!! Wire wheel it, por15 marine cleaner, por15 metal ready, then por15.. then primer or tremclad.
(Also have to follow instructions carefully... and don't contaminate the product).
I can't weld yet... so I picked a body that had good doors (seams), and very little surface rust.
Good project though.... great work.
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11-19-2010, 01:50 AM
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#140
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Port Perry
Posts: 7,631
Car: God's Chariot
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So it's crunch time! I just weighed my options, as the car NEEDS to be somewhat finished by Wednesday night as it will get booted out of the shop by then (definitely not getting the hood or trunk done unfortunately). I think my plan is to work on it full tilt over the course of the weekend. I think my goals are to paint the entire car late Saturday so it can dry over Sunday and give it a quick scuff and lay down another coat Monday evening. (Roughly two days aka Tuesday and Wednesday are needed to clean the mess that I made out of the shop by trying to pull this off in such a short time)
Today I started by cutting some plates to fit in the bumper shock holes in the front nose. I got lazy and only did one side for now.
Cut up sheet to fit (I actually fit it to the other side since it fit better)
All welded up, holes closed, grinded down and ready for filler!
Too bad I still have the other side
Big difference with a bit of paint!
And a quick walkaround of how I left the rear end for the evening. Ground off all of the remaining welds, and slopped some filler on. Gonna be a lot of sanding tomorrow!
Last edited by craz azn; 11-19-2010 at 01:56 AM.
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11-19-2010, 11:44 AM
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#141
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5th Gear Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Thornhill
Posts: 975
Car: 1971 BMW 1602
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Keep at it buddy
Looks like lots of progress.
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11-19-2010, 12:35 PM
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#142
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Go Topless
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Under my e30
Posts: 804
Car: m5,740,335,330,325
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Impressive!
Note to self: buy welder
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11-20-2010, 12:11 PM
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#143
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Port Perry
Posts: 7,631
Car: God's Chariot
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Woooo, more progress! Worked until 2am with the help of Kurt yesterday scraping paint and finishing up the nose on the car. I'll have to power through the left door and get it all welded shut and sanded smooth, possibly might be able to pull off paint today! Stay tuned!
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11-20-2010, 12:35 PM
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#144
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5th Gear Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Thornhill
Posts: 975
Car: 1971 BMW 1602
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Nice
Really wish I could drop by and have a look. Keep posting with the pictures.
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11-22-2010, 12:43 AM
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#145
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Port Perry
Posts: 7,631
Car: God's Chariot
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Hmm. Now the weekend is over. I don't know, I feel almost disappointed by the lack of progress, but I can't say that, because Kurt and myself worked our asses off this weekend (with the help of Richard whenever he decided to show up lol), however I didn't reach my goal of having the whole car painted, I must look at the bright side, and at least all the main pieces of the puzzle are painted. Only the door remains to be painted, and a few spots here and there that need a few dents worked out (that mostly I decided to rush on  ).
Kurt has a few pics of the front nose panel when we were working on it... that turned out super duper well. I am very pleased with that. Everything lines up well and looks nice and straight. Here are the pics I have with me currently:
And the rear of the car almost sorted, just a few more spots to touch up in this pic.
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11-22-2010, 12:52 AM
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#146
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Port Perry
Posts: 7,631
Car: God's Chariot
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And the fun part... PAINT!
Kurt seemed to be very enthusiastic about the paint part, so he painted the front end. He did a good job.
... While I painted the back and left side of the car.
First coat complete! We'll see how the next few days pans out as far as progress goes, for now its clean up time in the shop...
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11-22-2010, 01:59 AM
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#147
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ancaster
Posts: 3,570
Car: '08 M3, '97 328is
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SAAAAAAAAAAAAAK. Take it!
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11-22-2010, 02:26 AM
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#148
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Port Perry
Posts: 7,631
Car: God's Chariot
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Jordan Chase FTW!!  looolllll
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12-05-2010, 02:57 PM
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#149
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Port Perry
Posts: 7,631
Car: God's Chariot
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I should be working on my projects for school, but I find myself on ebay having bought this:
Center console I found on ebay from a 3.0CSL. Cool piece to have... good place to put my breaker switches and kill switch.
Also eyeing some new window seals and some oddball trim pieces on ebay  lol
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12-06-2010, 07:25 PM
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#150
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4th Gear Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 842
Car: Mississauga Transit
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Wow, can't believe I only saw this now, awesome project!
You need some of this
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