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Old 07-03-2010, 08:50 AM   #1
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Small shop owners wonder what rioters gained from damaging their stores.



http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/toro...-g20-riot?bn=1

At 4:13 on the afternoon of Sat., June 26, a burly man, clad in black, his face hidden by a kerchief, used an abandoned two-by-four — it had been part of a temporary traffic sign — to batter the window of Ken Li’s souvenir shop.

The attacker was one of dozens of rioters who swaggered north on Yonge St. after breaking away from the large G20 demonstration.

He could not have known the people who stood well behind the shattered glass of the Yonge St. stores. “This isn’t violence,” one of the black clad mob told the Star during the rampage. “This is vandalism against violent corporations. We did not hurt anybody.”

More than 40 businesses were damaged. Many of them are independently owned small stores. Their owners have come from countries including Afghanistan, China and Cuba.

They were astounded at what they saw that afternoon.

In the aftermath, the Star checked in on several small shops that were attacked on the few blocks between Dundas and College/Carlton Sts. What emerged is a portrait of uncomprehending fear — and defiance.

When the rioters arrived at First Choice Gifts at 356 Yonge St., owner Li was away from his store having a late lunch. The place was staffed by two female university students working for the summer. Yun Zhu, 22, who’s taking engineering at McMaster, had been on the job for two months. Xiao Lin, 23, who has finished her first year of chemistry at Queen’s, had been working one month. They both immigrated to Canada from China four years ago with their families.

Both were terrified but showed presence of mind. They’d heard the commotion and saw the black-clad vandals approach. “You couldn’t see them — just their eyes,” recalls Zhu. She turned off the lights while Lin locked the glass doors. “We were so scared,” continues Zhu. “Oh my God, you have no idea. They tried to get into the store. Four customers were here. Two were girls like us. Another was a couple in their 30s. They were so great. They told us, ‘Be calm, take deep breaths.’ ”

They all fled to the basement and heard the sound of breaking glass. When they emerged, they saw that a large crystal ball, which weighed about 10 kilograms and cost $299, had been taken, along with a crystal airplane from the hole in the front window.

The ball, Li explained is supposed to bring good luck, something that eluded him that day. “There were hundreds of police staying at the Delta Chelsea Hotel,” Li says of the hotel behind his store. “On that day there were no police here.”

While his store was under siege, a different tale was unfolding across the street at 361 Yonge St. where Alejandro Alonso is a co-owner of Wanda’s Belgian Waffles Café, which opened three months ago. Alonso, 25, is a former lifeguard who came to Canada two years ago from Cuba.

He, too, heard the sound of shattering glass — “bing, bing, like a movie” — down the street. But rather than run for cover, he and two employees, Egidio (Eddy) Citro, 55, and Jordan Ayoub, 27 — defied the rioters.

Wearing their white chef jackets, they stood in front of the tiny café. They kept their hands in their pockets. Alonso thought it was cowardly for the rioters to cover their faces. And he was surprised at their youth: they seemed to be 18 to 20. Many were girls.

“If you live here and this is your city, you have to take care of it,” Alonso says. “I come from a place where people have nothing and they take care of what they have.”

A girl with a camera stood beside them filming the progress of the vandals up Yonge St. One of the rioters told Alonso to move. “I said, ‘No, I will not move.’ He wanted to break the glass, so I stayed. The feeling I had was bigger than fear. I was angry. This is our store. I care. It’s not only the money; it’s the time, the effort, how many hours we work every week.”

The vandals passed by.

“If you have a reason to do something, you do it, all the way,” says Alonso. “They don’t have any reason for what they were doing.”

Business hadn’t come back by mid-week, says Robert Ayoub, who owns several Wanda’s Waffles shops. “We feel people are edgy. People are coming to Yonge St. to see the broken glass.”

Meanwhile the wreckage continued on the west side of Yonge St. The rioters shattered windows at a Swiss Chalet, where pedestrians had waved in warning to customers sitting near the front, motioning them to flee to the back. They broke a window at Money Mart, at 368 Yonge, but missed Li’s second shop, Canada Gifts, at 370 Yonge.

They were moving swiftly, and one of them was carrying a heavy crystal ball.

He was young and wiry, hooded, and heaved the ball through the south window of Barclay Jewelry Ltd. at the northeast corner of Yonge and Gerrard. It bounced back. He hurled it again. Photographers and film crews turned their cameras toward him, but a dark-haired woman in a clear rain jacket darted in front of them twirling an open umbrella, to hide his identity.

The crystal ball, meanwhile, rolled to the curb. The ball-tosser abandoned his task and as he did, angrily instead kicked the window. He brushed past umbrella girl.

Behind this splintered window stood Zohrab Kilislian, who is in his 60s. He’s had jewellery stores on Yonge for more than 30 years. He is tall and wears suspenders.

The rioters had already rammed a two-by-four through the front window; the tempered glass lay like shining rubble on the sidewalk.

Kilislian cut his hands, which had several bandages on them last week, while cleaning up the mess. A young woman who works for him was struck on the hip by the two-by-four. Another employee was so angry, he ran out the door chasing the masked man who’d thrown the lumber. He didn’t catch him.

The crystal ball now lies by the front door. It is surprisingly heavy, dented but unbroken. Another rioter apparently found it on the street and hurled it through the window. Kilislian says the police can come and get it if they’d like.

He did not board his windows in preparation for the demonstration. “I was relying on the police,” he says. “I really did not believe the police would allow this to happen. That same day, in the morning, my friends said, ‘Close up and go home.’ I said, ‘Why?’ ”

There was no jewellery in his showcases last Tuesday, three days after the riot. The windows were still being repaired. He estimates he may not be back in business until tomorrow. The display cases are cracked, as are the molded forms that hold necklaces.

He has two questions: “What do they gain from doing this? Who’s going to pay for the damage?”

His wife called when she saw the rioting on television. “She said she was shaking,” Kilislian recalls. “I said nothing, except that we were okay.”

Then he adds: “Honestly, I have never been like this. I didn’t sleep that night. I wanted to, I couldn’t. . . ”

Kilislian is the landlord at 399 Yonge, which houses two other stores besides his own. His tenant on the north side of the building is Khalil Salimi, a 36-year-old immigrant from Afghanistan. He sells leather jackets, purses and biker vests in his shop, All Leather. Salimi, the middle of nine children, is married and has two little girls, 6 and 2.

Salimi was standing by the display cases near the front of his shop when the vandals struck. They hurled a section of movable fencing through the front glass window. “I was standing where you are. I was frozen. Their faces were covered, like Halloween Day. Then we hid behind the counter. We were scared.”

Like Kilislian, he has questions. “Why would they do this? Do they want to kill us? In this country? This kind of stuff?

“You’re standing in your store and someone comes to you like this?” continues Salimi, who has also lived in India and Pakistan. “I’ve never seen that before.”

Salimi checks his phone and sees that he called police at 4:15 p.m. on Saturday. “They said they couldn’t come. They said, ‘Protect yourself.’ ”

It will cost up to $2000 to fix the windows. Is insurance likely to cover the costs? “We don’t have a police report.”

For the small shopkeepers on Yonge St., Saturday is the money day, the one they look forward to. Salimi might have sales of about $8,000 over a weekend. (His monthly rent is $9,000.)

“That Saturday, we sold zero — nothing,” he says. “All week the radio was saying, don’t come downtown.”

Last Monday at 2.30 p.m., a customer bought a leather jacket at a discounted price of $100. “This is our first sale in three days. They are still scared from downtown.”

The losses he suffered in the days before and after the G20 summit ripple far from Toronto. Every month he sends money — sometimes $500, sometimes $800 — home to his parents who live in Kandahar City and are in their mid-70s. “Always, I give them money for their food.”

He adds: “This week was very bad for me, but what can you do?”

There’s a fruit shop called Fruit Express Plus next door to Salimi’s store. It had metal gates pulled across the storefront, though the boxes of fruit were still outside. Behind the closed gates, Olga Serebrennikova, who manages the flower department, was frightened. “But nothing bad happened,” she says.

A boy in black rushed by, paused and raced back to pick up a few peaches. He passed one to a comrade. They laughed as they bit into the fruit.
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Old 07-03-2010, 09:13 AM   #2
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blame the government.

they put the G20 in Toronto, when they could have had it in Huntsville as well..

on top of that, most of the violent protestors were undercover police and banker henchmen.
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Old 07-03-2010, 09:14 AM   #3
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great article to the wannabe anarchist here on max..I understand people shouldnt be taxed to death,I realize the rich gets richer,too many rules too many redtape but riots of this kind does nothing to change things,if your asking what it takes to change the way government runs a country I would say run for office,vote for change,go to Ottawa and Queens park in size and protest peacefully.Sign petitions, write to your local representative but do not do what those douche bag protesters did.Where were all of the anti government protesters when the HST was announced last year,you could have attended the protest then but only 500 showed up at Queens Park,now when the HST is in full affect you start crying?.Changing the world doesnt happen in 3 days sometimes its takes a lifetime but most of those bitching about our government is to busy paying taxes or modding the cars.


sirex are you going to blame the HST on the police also?
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Old 07-03-2010, 12:51 PM   #4
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blame the government.

they put the G20 in Toronto, when they could have had it in Huntsville as well..

on top of that, most of the violent protestors were undercover police and banker henchmen.
riiiiight, the GOVERNMENT threw that 2x4 through the shop owner's window. The GOVERNMENT stole the crystal ball and threw it through another store's window.

Listen man, I know you love to blame the bankers, but bankers aren't 18-20 years old and throwing things through windows to **** with small, poor shopkeepers. Most of the bankers I know left town to avoid dealing with the hassle of you 18-20 year old criminals.
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Old 07-03-2010, 05:29 PM   #5
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You would have to be a very naive person to believe that destruction was not going to occur.

Heres a prediction.

The next area lock down ( any where in the world) with little police presence will have violence and destruction.



Instead of having the police act as a giant group of one they should have been dispersed though out the street and intermixing with the general population.

If you are not looking to intimidate, people don't feel intimidated.
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Old 07-03-2010, 06:34 PM   #6
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riiiiight, the GOVERNMENT threw that 2x4 through the shop owner's window. The GOVERNMENT stole the crystal ball and threw it through another store's window.

Listen man, I know you love to blame the bankers, but bankers aren't 18-20 years old and throwing things through windows to **** with small, poor shopkeepers. Most of the bankers I know left town to avoid dealing with the hassle of you 18-20 year old criminals.

they hired thugs/goons to do their bidding. their secrets are slowly coming to light.

Hitler did the same thing to scare/alienate the population. Psychology 101.

Again, the only person to blame for all of this is the government. And I never said blame the police. Blame the govenrment, the police are just puppets, doing their masters bidding.

The G20 was all a big show. And you know what, I dont believe that the population of Toronto is full of people that want to commit violence. We;ve had countless protests in Toronto and none of them turned violent. Its interesting how on the G20 though all these "fake laws" get passed, and all this violence happens..... Its like they said, this is part of the new World order solution.

Bring the G20 to a big city like Toronto. Hire thugs and truly violent people to smash things (some are even cops), then when things start going bad, you have an excuse for martial law, or for more laws because its all in the name of safety and protection for you.

Dont you think its interesting that they never showed us any of the Black Bloc getting arrested????? How come, the cop car on Queen Street and Spadina sat there untouched for 6 hours, but then in the evening time, city tv got a "report of protests on Queen and spadina again" and as soon as the video camera came on and went live on Cp24 (and yes I was watching this) how come as soon as the TV went to Queen and Spadina some "anarchists" lit the car on fire..... Right infront of the camera, perfect timing.

How come the police left a cruiser on Queen Street, a VERY busy street, on a Saturday?? they had no tow capabilities that day? How come they left the car burn for almost an hour without extinguishing the flames??

Too much bullshit being told to us, and too many people like Mstearny, and daytona gobbling it up and asking for a second helping.

How come the police seemed to move so fast on people protesting on Queens Park, and people every where else, and yet, when people were smashing windows, the cops didn't do anything to stop them?

This was all a show.
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Old 07-03-2010, 09:19 PM   #7
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you know what the sad part is... that you guys cant see past your own noses. You think that the protests going on were about just things in Toronto. The G20 symbolizes the whole world. (At least the 20 richest nations)

People protest it because they want to protest whats going on in the world due to OUR FOREIGN policies (g20). You forget there is a war in afghanistan, and Iraq going on, for NO ****ing purpose at all??

That corporate entities now have MORE power then human ****ing beings.?
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Old 07-04-2010, 01:00 AM   #8
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great article to the wannabe anarchist here on max..I understand people shouldnt be taxed to death,I realize the rich gets richer,too many rules too many redtape but riots of this kind does nothing to change things,if your asking what it takes to change the way government runs a country I would say run for office,vote for change,go to Ottawa and Queens park in size and protest peacefully.Sign petitions, write to your local representative but do not do what those douche bag protesters did.Where were all of the anti government protesters when the HST was announced last year,you could have attended the protest then but only 500 showed up at Queens Park,now when the HST is in full affect you start crying?.Changing the world doesnt happen in 3 days sometimes its takes a lifetime but most of those bitching about our government is to busy paying taxes or modding the cars.


sirex are you going to blame the HST on the police also?
i don't consider myself one. anarchy is only the transition period between this form of gov to a different form of gov.

obviously people need to get involved & hopefully the system (and the majority of those within it) isn't irrepairably corrupt. violence doesn't always meet out some immediate change either, look at the ira vs england or columbia's current 40 year civil war!! cops beating protestors, but they still come out.

but its become really aparent that the people can't really 'peacefully protest'. theres like 10years of examples of undercover cops causing trouble, so the riot cops can then come in and beat & arrest everybody. The quebec cops even admitted it!


one thing i want to bring to everybodies attention, to think about for 1 second. all the threads on here regarding the g20 are 'Protest, riots, violence'. same with most of the media: cop cars on fire, violence, riots!!.
Q: what were the g20 leaders talking about?
Q: what were the views of the protestors (even if you don't care)?
Q: what were the details of trade treaties harper signed with china?
just notice the media didn't focus on that too much at all.



CBC -Csis warns on foreign influence in our government!!




former prime minister john turner says they meet behind closed doors to sell out our canadian soveriegnty



globalism is treason? take a listen.

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Old 07-04-2010, 01:09 PM   #9
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he called police at 4:15 p.m. on Saturday. “They said they couldn’t come. They said, ‘Protect yourself.’ ”
oh wait, then you go to jail for manslaughter. The cop should have really said "try to enjoy it".
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oh wait, then you go to jail for manslaughter. The cop should have really said "try to enjoy it".
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they hired thugs/goons to do their bidding. their secrets are slowly coming to light.

Hitler did the same thing to scare/alienate the population. Psychology 101.
Bankers don't hire kids to throw rocks through windows dummy. What do they have to gain from having some poor immigrant have to install a new window in his shop? Nothing.

So Canada in 2010 is just like Hitler was, right Sirex? Teach us all of your psych 101 theories on how CANADA is on equal footing to the craziest tyrant in all of history.
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Fantasy role playing weapons put next to weapons seized during summit





Police are living in a fantasy world if they think arrows on display Tuesday had anything to do with the weekend G20 violence, a Whitby man said Wednesday.

Brian Barrett was shocked to go online Tuesday and see a photo gallery showing toy weapons seized from him while en route to Mississauga for a fantasy role-playing game.

His hand-made scale armour, cushion-tipped arrows and hockey-taped shields were among the items Toronto Police chief Bill Blair said were “seized from criminals” who wreaked havoc on the city Saturday.

They weren’t the only misleading items on display during a Tuesday press conference.

When Blair was asked about a chainsaw and crossbow, he agreed they had been seized from a man near The Esplanade in an incident unrelated to the G20 summit.

“Some of the things that are related are these arrows with devices tied on to them so that they could pour gas on them, ignite them and shoot them at us,” Blair said. “That was seized from criminals.”


Not so, said Barrett, “champion of Twilight Peak” and weapons safety officer for a 15th century role-playing game called Amtgard.

Barrett was passing through Union Station from Whitby, clad in his 85-pound scale armour, when he was “thrown into a bench” and held at gunpoint while officers dumped out his backpack — also on display Tuesday — and rifled through its contents, he said.

Among the items taken from him after more than an hour of detention were his armour, two shields, a round buckler, foam maces, a foam flail and five arrows that had their points taken off and padded “so that they’re safe enough for 13-year-old and 14-year-old kids to play with.”

Given the sensitivity of the weekend, police confiscated the items and told Barrett he could retrieve them from a warehouse on Tuesday.

“I woke up yesterday morning and I had players as far as Texas leaving me messages on my voicemail saying, ‘Dude, all of your stuff is on TV, they’re saying it’s all terrorist weapons,’” Barrett said.

“There’s a big stigma that I’m a nerd, I’m going outside dressed as a knight from the 15th century, wearing authentic armour and carrying foam weapons and shields,” Barrett said. “Now I’m going to have to deal with the stigma of being the violent nerdy guy who’s going to go around and break windows and smash banks because he’s angry at the government.”

Asked why the items were displayed, Toronto Police spokesman Mark Pugash said, If there were things there that were not connected with the summit, they should not have been there

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/G.../14570136.html
'if you weren't connected to the summit you shouldn't be there'

there ya go! to bad they didn't tell the citizens of t.o
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Hope Ottawa does the right thing and pays for the damage caused to the shop owners. Funny how Chief Blair stayed away from the Gay Pride parade yesterday. He should have been given a taste of his own medicine.
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