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06-25-2010, 08:20 AM
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Explanation...
every once in a while Transport Canada brings in non-conforming European cars here for, what the call, testing purposes.
I saw that car at the Toronto car show together with a few others which were (and still are not) sold in canada, and most likely never will be.
I even spoke to the Transport canada person at the show about the car, and he said to me that they do "feasability studies" on it, and testing. He wouldn't elaborate too much on that. I offered to buy it from them, but he just laughed.
Then, I went to the BMW Canada display and told some people there about the 320 diesel being dispalyed at the show; they went off to see the car - they had no idea it was there.
So, that's your "Crown asset"!
Furthermore, ANYONE can bring in a non-confroming car to Canada for a max. of 1 year, not just diplomats. Before the year exipres, you either have to get it certified by Transport Canada or take it out of the country.
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06-25-2010, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by marek
There were 2005 E90's as they debuted in Europe as a 2005 model, so there most certainly IS a 2005 E90. This car is a euro car brought over for testing. As for the 10th digit being zero, normal for cars that are not destined for North America. Only Canada/US require the 10th digit to be the model year, europe and most of the world doesn't thus it is only a check digit and it is a "0".
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E90s started production in March 2005, but that was as a 2006 model year vehicle. Just like 2011 model year began with March 2010 production.
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06-25-2010, 10:51 AM
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Over 9 F**KING THOUSAND!!
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I hope BMW brings the 4 cylinder diesels over. They already have the top end diesel motor hear, just need one that even more efficient.
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06-25-2010, 12:09 PM
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I doubt efficiency is the real concern for lack of sales of the 335d. It already gets 53 MPG combined with massive performance. That's identical to a Mini Cooper for fuel economy!
I think the real issue is people with $50-60Gs to spend would rather spend it on a 335i than 335d. People looking for a diesel would more readily buy one if it were priced like a 323i or 328i in my opinion.
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06-25-2010, 12:12 PM
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Over 9 F**KING THOUSAND!!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mstearnsy
I doubt efficiency is the real concern for lack of sales of the 335d. It already gets 53 MPG combined with massive performance. That's identical to a Mini Cooper for fuel economy!
I think the real issue is people with $50-60Gs to spend would rather spend it on a 335i than 335d. People looking for a diesel would more readily buy one if it were priced like a 323i or 328i in my opinion.
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It's the price. 320d or even 323d slotted in between 323i and 328i for price would be a hit. Also, 53 mpg is highway speed at exactly 100km/h. I'm talking 320d that gets 50+ combined. They nailed the x5 pricing, slotting it in between the 3.0 and 4.8.
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Last edited by Axxe; 06-25-2010 at 12:14 PM.
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06-25-2010, 12:16 PM
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3rd Gear Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Axxe
It's the price. 320d or even 323d slotted in between 323i and 328i for price would be a hit. Also, 53 mpg is highway speed at exactly 100km/h. I'm talking 320d that gets 50+ combined. They nailed the x5 pricing, slotting it in between the 3.0 and 4.8.
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You're bang on there. I'm not sure why BMW makes a 123d but hasn't yet built a 323d. ~200 hp/300 torque from a 4 cylinder diesel is remarkable!
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06-25-2010, 05:12 PM
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4th Gear Member
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: GTA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mstearnsy
E90s started production in March 2005, but that was as a 2006 model year vehicle. Just like 2011 model year began with March 2010 production.
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Nope for Europe that was sold as 2005 car. It came out as a 2006 model in North America.
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06-26-2010, 03:01 PM
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RUNING BOOST
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EstorilM3
every once in a while Transport Canada brings in non-conforming European cars here for, what the call, testing purposes.
I saw that car at the Toronto car show together with a few others which were (and still are not) sold in canada, and most likely never will be.
I even spoke to the Transport canada person at the show about the car, and he said to me that they do "feasability studies" on it, and testing. He wouldn't elaborate too much on that. I offered to buy it from them, but he just laughed.
Then, I went to the BMW Canada display and told some people there about the 320 diesel being dispalyed at the show; they went off to see the car - they had no idea it was there.
So, that's your "Crown asset"!
Furthermore, ANYONE can bring in a non-confroming car to Canada for a max. of 1 year, not just diplomats. Before the year exipres, you either have to get it certified by Transport Canada or take it out of the country.
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From my understanding the EU emission controls much higher standard then Canada's, so why it did not pass?
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06-26-2010, 06:46 PM
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Hatters gon Hatt
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: San Diego, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uzi577
From my understanding the EU emission controls much higher standard then Canada's, so why it did not pass? 
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Because canada is a "special" market, you can only have what big brother lets you have new.
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