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Old 06-13-2010, 05:06 PM   #1
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Boost or charge? Please help

after many weeks of thinking to sell my car or keep it! I've decided to keep it and to have some fun! It's a 97 328is, m52

So I've been looking into boosting or supercharging my e36. I currently have m3 cams,markD software, zf tranny w/m3 clutch, LSD rear end, m50 intake manifold(not installed),fan delete(looking for e-fan)

I'm looking to push around 400-450whp. I currently daily drive this car and would like to keep it a daily driver. I will be doing the work my self and would like to know what route I should go and what I'd need and how much I should be expecting to spend.

Boost or charge?
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:31 PM   #2
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you're doing it wrong. pick how much you want to spend and that will tell you turbo or SC and how much power you can get.
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:42 PM   #3
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you're doing it wrong. pick how much you want to spend and that will tell you turbo or SC and how much power you can get.
Well my goal is 400-450whp..I just want to know which route to go..I don't mind spending money on a quality system..in other words.the sky is the limit until I hit 450!...i just wanna know what would be the most reliable way to go and what system would be better...hope you understand
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Old 06-14-2010, 05:16 PM   #4
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I understand what I think about people who pick random numbers from the sky then ask what is better without any budget....

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Old 06-14-2010, 05:49 PM   #5
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google Technique Tuning for turbos and Active Autowerke for superchargers.
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Old 06-14-2010, 05:59 PM   #6
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If money isn't really a limiting factor then I would properly build the motor with forged internals, you will be much happier in the long run. I've seen too many high hp cars on stock motors go to shit. My buddy just boosted his K20A2 without even doing studs, gasket or clutch so we'll see how long that will hold up. TT sells some good kits for E36's or you could do a garage build and go with a GT35 or 40 to hit your whp goal.
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Old 06-14-2010, 06:49 PM   #7
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google Technique Tuning for turbos and Active Autowerke for superchargers.
Thanks bud, I'll check them out
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Old 06-14-2010, 09:27 PM   #8
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don't forget The Racer's Market and they're over subframe piping, which might be necessary for a DD
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Old 06-14-2010, 11:54 PM   #9
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To get 450 hp from 192hp you should be doing some engine work first like lower compression before F.I.
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go turbo imo

i went the charger route thinking I would be satisfied with the power but you get used to it.....
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Old 06-16-2010, 10:13 AM   #11
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Are you talking 400crank hp or 400- 450whp? because there is a big difference 400 crank= 67hp per cylinder and is not unrealistic figure on stock internals and with a set of ARPs and a good tune you could get there for sure. Now if your talking 400whp-450whp your going to need to upgrade internals, drive shaft, LSD, brakes, fluids, fuel pump ect. takes alot of money to get to a reliable 450whp !!
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Are you talking 400crank hp or 400- 450whp? because there is a big difference 400 crank= 67hp per cylinder and is not unrealistic figure on stock internals and with a set of ARPs and a good tune you could get there for sure. Now if your talking 400whp-450whp your going to need to upgrade internals, drive shaft, LSD, brakes, fluids, fuel pump ect. takes alot of money to get to a reliable 450whp !!
400-450 crank is good enough..i was thinking about boosting/turboing it a month before winter and play around with the boost. that way if i damage or destroy my motor..id have 5 months to reasearch and build the shit outta it..
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400-450 crank is good enough..i was thinking about boosting/turboing it a month before winter and play around with the boost. that way if i damage or destroy my motor..id have 5 months to reasearch and build the shit outta it..
Done deal:
http://techniquetuning.com/e36328turbo.html
$7700 US plus a couple hundred shipping will get you ~367 wheel hp, roughly 430ish at the crank. Well respected tuner and apparently reliable. I was going to turbo my E46 330 with him if I didn't buy my M3.
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Old 06-16-2010, 08:18 PM   #14
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Done deal:
http://techniquetuning.com/e36328turbo.html
$7700 US plus a couple hundred shipping will get you ~367 wheel hp, roughly 430ish at the crank. Well respected tuner and apparently reliable. I was going to turbo my E46 330 with him if I didn't buy my M3.
Now you turbo the M3
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Old 06-16-2010, 08:36 PM   #15
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I had a 450HP skyline GTR before.. turbo is the best to get up to those numbers.. well i havent really had any experience with superchargers.. but i do know they dont lag like turbos. i would say turbo set up .. but for me personlly i like my car Naturally aspirated..
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