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Old 07-02-2009, 12:39 PM   #16
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When will you ppl understand?? this is how buildings are SUPPOSED to fail! 9/11 was DEMOLITION! geez
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:05 PM   #17
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the land beneath is part of the foundation, and should be engineered to support footing loads. you can't blame it on the land.. it's like blaming your herpes on the hooker.
Yes but most of Shanghai is swamps (or however you spell it) so building on them is risky and difficult! Hence why i said what i did! I doubt the building just fell on the side with no structural fail (eg. wall collapsing or supportbeam failing) unless the house for some reason tilted! This would only happen if the ground underneath gives way.
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Old 07-02-2009, 03:38 PM   #18
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Looks like chuck Norris was passing by...
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Old 07-02-2009, 04:51 PM   #19
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Yes but most of Shanghai is swamps (or however you spell it) so building on them is risky and difficult! Hence why i said what i did! I doubt the building just fell on the side with no structural fail (eg. wall collapsing or supportbeam failing) unless the house for some reason tilted! This would only happen if the ground underneath gives way.
yeah you are right, but if not a structural engineer's fault it was soil engineer's fault.. Thus the structural engineer failed to design correctly because of soil engineer's mistake
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Old 07-02-2009, 05:51 PM   #20
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only thing that comes to mind is, "Made In China"
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:00 PM   #21
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yeah you are right, but if not a structural engineer's fault it was soil engineer's fault.. Thus the structural engineer failed to design correctly because of soil engineer's mistake
I am not sure what the correct term is but as you call it soil engineers fault completely in my eyes!
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:29 PM   #22
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correct term is geotechnical engineer. and no it's not geotech's fault. it's poor planning. bet you $100 the excavation on the front side caused the collapse.
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:15 PM   #23
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near a river in a high rain location with no solid footing equals to disaster.I would say its the building engineer fault for not factoring that in during the design stage.I heard the company permits been all pulled and the owner and engineer is in police jail right now.Even though china is weak on inspection they know how to punish the criminals.The person who sold the poison milk to the kids was executed a day after the trial and all the board members was jailed from 5 years to 20 years and all of their assets went into fund for the ill children and those who died.
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But the foolish man built his house upon the sand
The rains came down and the floods came up
And the house on the sand went ploof


It looks like the building is built on wimpy concrete posts, and the base just sitting on the muddy ground. That is a poor design.
I built my shed this way with 9 concrete posts, 5 ft deep, for a 10x10x9 shed.

They have a serious issue right now of corruption, poor workmanship and poor quality, causing collapses of highways, bridges, buildings, and schools; contractors skimp on materials and officials approve projects without proper inspections.

.. and we'll soon have Chinese cars here....
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:43 PM   #25
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But the foolish man built his house upon the sand
The rains came down and the floods came up
And the house on the sand went ploof


It looks like the building is built on wimpy concrete posts, and the base just sitting on the muddy ground. That is a poor design.
I built my shed this way with 9 concrete posts, 5 ft deep, for a 10x10x9 shed.

They have a serious issue right now of corruption, poor workmanship and poor quality, causing collapses of highways, bridges, buildings, and schools; contractors skimp on materials and officials approve projects without proper inspections.

.. and we'll soon have Chinese cars here....
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well i heard that they invented something called a "internet". its going to be epic
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Old 07-03-2009, 07:25 PM   #27
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I think they should leave it like that and sell it as a new, modern horizontal-themed condo.

On a side note, I'd be pretty nervous if I lived next door.
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