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Old 02-18-2009, 08:58 PM   #1
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So long V and SS series...



http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/18/b...le-operations/

Coinciding with the release of General Motors' Viability Plan, the automaker has disbanded its High Performance Vehicle Operations team, the crew responsible for the line V-series Cadillacs, the Chevrolet Cobalt SS, HHR SS and the V8 version of the Colorado. According to Vince Muniga, a spokesman for the General, "All high-performance projects are on indefinite hold. The engineers are moving into different areas of the organization, and they will work on Cadillacs, Buicks, Chevrolets and Pontiacs."


man that M5 eater, the Cadillac CTS-V, is going to be gone
and the unreal fast, Cobalt SS was their claim to fame in the sport compact market.


EDIT: Mods should this be moved to General Discussion?

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Old 02-18-2009, 09:05 PM   #2
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or in other words... good bye camaro..
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:11 PM   #3
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Any car company that doesn't make cars for the enthusiast doens't do very well....

Look at Toyota fir example... Ever since their models started to become more and more for your sister and your grandmother they have been doing worse and worse each year.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:17 PM   #4
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^^ I have been saying that for years! Toyota was doing amazing pretty much right up until last year but they completely changed their name by getting rid of all "sports" cars. Once the supra and celica were gone all their cars sort of blended together to me they all look the same and all look boring!
IMO not a good move on GM's part
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:23 PM   #5
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Is having an intestine/colon bypass to the brain, a prerequisite before working for GM?
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:36 PM   #6
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in defence of GM, the research and investment they put into their high performance brands has been a losing battle for a long time. They are just trying to cut costs. But its a sad state of affairs.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:13 PM   #7
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History repeats itself yet again.
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:22 PM   #8
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Is having an intestine/colon bypass to the brain, a prerequisite before working for GM?
ive been working on a degree, but maybe i should just get this operation done.
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:37 PM   #9
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Yes they are losing money on those lines of "sports cars" but just having them gives the GM line a more respectable name. Like toyota for example what do you think of now when you think of toyota? Boring! Personally i wouldn't even want to be associated with driving a toyota pretty much cause i'm not a middle aged soccer mom trying to save money on gas and cut maintenance costs.
Also the latter I believe is a myth with toyota being so "reliable"
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:30 AM   #10
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Why all the hate on Toyota? I think their new image, new look, new Camry have actually helped them enter the younger car buyer market.

The Camry is an excellent choice compared to the Accord considering its new, more aggressive styling.
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:35 AM   #11
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Why all the hate on Toyota? I think their new image, new look, new Camry have actually helped them enter the younger car buyer market.

The Camry is an excellent choice compared to the Accord considering its new, more aggressive styling.
ya camry is a good car, and it did help toyota enter the younger buyers market, but the camry and the toyota trcuks are the best they have. if they had a more sportier car, they would already have had the young market, and not had to get back in.
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That's what GM is doing. They're betting the farm that the middle to senior aged folks will buy their cars instead of the young hipster sardine sized cars. Going back to core values is a well known strategy.
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Any car company that doesn't make cars for the enthusiast doens't do very well....

Look at Toyota fir example... Ever since their models started to become more and more for your sister and your grandmother they have been doing worse and worse each year.
You mean Toyota, that car company that just grabbed number one in global sales? Yeah, you're right, they must be hurting...

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ive been working on a degree, but maybe i should just get this operation done.
So that you too can have shit for brains?
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ive been working on a degree, but maybe i should just get this operation done.
depends, some are born with the operation built in
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:38 AM   #15
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you all that are saying a Car company won't do well financially without making an "enthusiast or performance car" are wrong. While I think its a wonderful alternative, such as the Supra by Toyota in the 90's, the NSX-Integra-Prelude-S2K by Honda in the 90's, a car company does not need a performance car to complete its brand.
All of you that are saying Toyota is boring and doesn't make good cars are out to lunch. The performance line for Toyota is in Lexus, the IS-F is an M3 competitor, the new LF-A will be an M5 eater, and we all know, both of those cars when modded will produce some serious serious numbers.
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Like toyota for example what do you think of now when you think of toyota? Boring! Personally i wouldn't even want to be associated with driving a toyota pretty much cause i'm not a middle aged soccer mom trying to save money on gas and cut maintenance costs.
Also the latter I believe is a myth with toyota being so "reliable"
wtf? have you driven the new Camry? 260hp. Very comfortable, quick car that looks great. Have you driven the Corolla S? Its a great looking car that actually handles pretty decent.
Here's an 09 Corolla S with some nice wheels and obviously some FI


Toyota used the Corolla as their platform in the SuperGT this year actually. Looks sick with a widebody kit I think!


and don't even get me started on how reliable they are; own one and see why they are the number one car manufacturer in the world. Their quality control is unreal. Awesome, reliable cars. A Toyota Corolla from any year of the 90's could quite possibly be the most reliable car of all time.
The new Camry, Corolla, 2010 4Runner and Highlander (especially the Limited), are all the best looking new cars on the market, that have plenty of power and STRONG resale.
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