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Old 10-01-2007, 01:00 PM   #31
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Sorry, I thought engaging meshing was the same thing....but either way engage a gear should need some Synchronizing .
Right. So going back to where we started, the engine speed has nothing to do with the synchronization process, because what you need to syncronize is the input shaft with the output shaft so the dogs can engage, which is what those little cone clutches do. When the engine comes into play, everything in the gearbox is synchronized and engaged, from here your revmatching skills or lack thereof will only affect the clutch.
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:22 PM   #32
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Right. So going back to where we started, the engine speed has nothing to do with the synchronization process, because what you need to syncronize is the input shaft with the output shaft so the dogs can engage, which is what those little cone clutches do. When the engine comes into play, everything in the gearbox is synchronized and engaged, from here your revmatching skills or lack thereof will only affect the clutch.
Make sense, I was thinking of something else when you said the gears always being mesh, and not needing synchronizing.

The discrepancy was what needed to be synchronized, not weather it took place.

I was arging it needed to take place, not which gears it took place on.
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Old 10-01-2007, 05:15 PM   #33
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Interesting read, I've learned a lot

Just a question... funny enough, I was thinking of this this morning. Someone told me a few years ago that they can change gears without using the clutch. I was under the impression that this wasn't possible.

Could someone explain the mechanics of shifting without the clutch? How the hell does that work? Isn't the gear "locked in" until you use the clutch pedal? I'll say I've never done it (and probably won't in fear of leaving my transmission in pieces somewhere on the road behind me), but how...? I'm confused....
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Old 10-01-2007, 05:22 PM   #34
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Interesting read, I've learned a lot

Just a question... funny enough, I was thinking of this this morning. Someone told me a few years ago that they can change gears without using the clutch. I was under the impression that this wasn't possible.

Could someone explain the mechanics of shifting without the clutch? How the hell does that work? Isn't the gear "locked in" until you use the clutch pedal? I'll say I've never done it (and probably won't in fear of leaving my transmission in pieces somewhere on the road behind me), but how...? I'm confused....

I used to do it in my old truck. And then the transmission blew.
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Old 10-01-2007, 05:27 PM   #35
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Interesting read, I've learned a lot

Just a question... funny enough, I was thinking of this this morning. Someone told me a few years ago that they can change gears without using the clutch. I was under the impression that this wasn't possible.

Could someone explain the mechanics of shifting without the clutch? How the hell does that work? Isn't the gear "locked in" until you use the clutch pedal? I'll say I've never done it (and probably won't in fear of leaving my transmission in pieces somewhere on the road behind me), but how...? I'm confused....
There are a lot of very good technical articles about how manual transmissions work, come back with something a little more specific and less time consuming to answer... (yes I know I clearly have a lot of it to spare at the moment but I'm also very lazy )
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