Click to go to Forum Home Click to go to maXbimmer Home

Go Back   maXbimmer Forums > maXimum Tech > 3 Series > E36 (1991 - 1999)
User Name
Password


Welcome to Maxbimmer.com!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 07-24-2007, 01:17 PM   #1
Bimmer4ever
2nd Gear Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canada
Posts: 90
Need some info on E36 M3 Canadian model

Hello guys, I just need some info on e36 m3 performence, is it true that the NA market's e36 m3s only have 240 hp?I have checked serveral bmw mags and some says 240hp, some says 286hp, 1 week ago when I was checking autotrader for m3s ,and a eruo spec e36 caught my attention, it claims the car has 286hp because it is a euro edition... I'm new to bimmers so could any one tell me the differences between these two models?, engine, tranny, etc. Thanks very much for reply~.
Bimmer4ever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2007, 01:51 PM   #2
propr'one
op sucks cock
 
propr'one's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: T.
Posts: 17,685
Send a message via MSN to propr'one
The 1994 canadian M3 was a Euro Spec. As in, they took european M3's, and shipped them here. They come with euro s50 motors, individual throttle bodies, and 286hp.

Unless you know what you're doing, be very careful buying eurospecs. Lots of them have been butchered. (and there's only 45 of them).

Stock canadian spec m3's, (96-99) are 240hp s52 powered cars.
__________________
d1s bulb canada

Hot: 2001 Estoril M RoadsterZCP 19's michelin supersports, ZHP knob, JL 8W3
Cold: 2002 TiAg M3 6mt ZCP 19's michelin supersports, deoranged, dechromed, led tails, ZHP knob, UUC SS v3, GROM, OEM 18's w310's,
hid headlights hid kit
propr'one is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007, 02:36 AM   #3
6appeal
3rd Gear Member
 
6appeal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Oaktown
Posts: 449
M3 Fyi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bimmer4ever
Hello guys, I just need some info on e36 m3 performence, is it true that the NA market's e36 m3s only have 240 hp?I have checked serveral bmw mags and some says 240hp, some says 286hp, 1 week ago when I was checking autotrader for m3s ,and a eruo spec e36 caught my attention, it claims the car has 286hp because it is a euro edition... I'm new to bimmers so could any one tell me the differences between these two models?, engine, tranny, etc. Thanks very much for reply~.
There are only 2 M3's that have seen Canadian soil. There was the US version of the E36 M3 that had only 240hp. This one is most common. However, for a limited time which I don't know when exactly, there were only a handful of Eurospec M3's sent to North America, a much smaller number for Canada. The Eurospec model had the full 286hp. This model was sent to North America in both Coupe and Sedan versions, the rarest being a Technoviolet with Cinnimon-like interior. I'm not sure as to why we received such a de-tuned verison but I think it had something to do with some US Automobile Standard. I also believe that the nature of the de-tuning had something to do with the programming of the VANOS units synonymous with the E36 generation. This all holds true for North America. Europe however is an M wetdream. They began with Eurospec M3 mentioned earlier which sports a 2990cc 286hp i-6. The E36 M3 Convertible was introduced in 1993, and the Sedan in 1994. In 1995 BMW released the M3 GT to which only 406 and were made, just 7 more cars than required to be considered a production vehicle. These 406 M3 GT's were all green Coupes that sported an upgraded version of the M3's 6 which had 9hp, 2 ft/lb gain in power. This version of the E36 M3 never crossed the ocean. Shortly after the E36 M3 EVO was unveiled. This M3 had a high-spec 3201cc i-6 lurking under the hood with 321hp and 258ft/lb. It was also given a 6-speed gearbox and M5 brakes. This version unfortunately had faulty VANOS units that were quite inconvenient and expensive to repair/replace. This version also never came to North America. in 1998, to mark the end of E36 production 50 M3 GT2's were made just like the EVO with exclusive colours, larger spoiler, high-polish 5x2spoke rims, and extended front lip splitters. This final Eurospec version was sold for more than 11,000 pounds more than the original Eurospec M3. The E46 M3 also follows a similar pattern. The US version has 333hp and 3246cc i-6 which is quite close to being considered a 3.3L but is technically a 3.2L. The Eurospec version of this M3 actually has 343hp. A few years into this generation, and M3 CSL was released with carbon fibre upgrades, different style rims, and and upgraded motor with 350hp. I believe this was available in North America in very limited numbers. Unfortunately, no M3 sedan was offered in this generation creating a greater anticipation for the upcoming E90 M3 to be released 1-2 model years after the imminent E92 M3 release. These latest M3's now sport a high-revving 3999cc V8 with 420hp and 295ft/lb.
6appeal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007, 09:48 AM   #4
Bimmer4ever
2nd Gear Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canada
Posts: 90
Wow Thanks For The Lesson Man~~
Bimmer4ever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007, 12:41 PM   #5
SickFinga
Moderator
 
SickFinga's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Location:
Posts: 16,412
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6appeal
There are only 2 M3's that have seen Canadian soil. There was the US version of the E36 M3 that had only 240hp. This one is most common. However, for a limited time which I don't know when exactly,
1994

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6appeal
there were only a handful of Eurospec M3's sent to North America, a much smaller number for Canada.
No eurospec m3 was ever imported to USA, so all of them (45 cars) went to Canada


Quote:
Originally Posted by 6appeal
The Eurospec model had the full 286hp. This model was sent to North America in both Coupe and Sedan versions, the rarest being a Technoviolet with Cinnimon-like interior.
Eurospec sedan was never imported to N/A


Quote:
Originally Posted by 6appeal
I'm not sure as to why we received such a de-tuned verison but I think it had something to do with some US Automobile Standard.
It is believed that eurospec m3 was too expensive for NA market

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6appeal
I also believe that the nature of the de-tuning had something to do with the programming of the VANOS units synonymous with the E36 generation. This all holds true for North America.
HUH????


Quote:
Originally Posted by 6appeal
Europe however is an M wetdream. They began with Eurospec M3 mentioned earlier which sports a 2990cc 286hp i-6. The E36 M3 Convertible was introduced in 1993, and the Sedan in 1994. In 1995 BMW released the M3 GT to which only 406 and were made, just 7 more cars than required to be considered a production vehicle. These 406 M3 GT's were all green Coupes that sported an upgraded version of the M3's 6 which had 9hp, 2 ft/lb gain in power. This version of the E36 M3 never crossed the ocean. Shortly after the E36 M3 EVO was unveiled. This M3 had a high-spec 3201cc i-6 lurking under the hood with 321hp and 258ft/lb. It was also given a 6-speed gearbox and M5 brakes.
It doesn't have M5 brakes, it has the same brakes as every other M3, except they changed to floating rotors.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6appeal
The E46 M3 also follows a similar pattern. The US version has 333hp and 3246cc i-6 which is quite close to being considered a 3.3L but is technically a 3.2L. The Eurospec version of this M3 actually has 343hp.
In reality the difference is only about 5hp, europeans measure hp in different ratings. 1 EURO HP = 1.01 US HP


Quote:
Originally Posted by 6appeal
A few years into this generation, and M3 CSL was released with carbon fibre upgrades, different style rims, and and upgraded motor with 350hp.
360hp(DIN)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6appeal
I believe this was available in North America in very limited numbers.
No it wasn't.
SickFinga is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007, 04:23 PM   #6
325isRED
6th Gear Member
 
325isRED's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 1,436
If I was going to buy an M3, it will be imported from europe...
__________________

'92 325is 5sp
325isRED is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2007, 05:14 PM   #7
dbworld4k
Addict
 
dbworld4k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: YYZ / ORD
Posts: 7,204
^ OT: 325isRED, I sent you a PM a few days back. Please check it out when you can
__________________


'02 ///M5 Imola Red / Imola Red '09 335i Alpine White / Coral Red

Past:
'04 E55 AMG Brilliant Silver / Anthracite
'96 318i Alpine White / Black
'01 330Ci Titanium Silver / Coral Red
'96 328i Jet Black / Black
dbworld4k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2007, 10:05 PM   #8
Antz_Marchin
4th Gear Member
 
Antz_Marchin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: St.Catharines
Posts: 881
^^ Haha, well edited Sick.
Antz_Marchin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.