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Old 04-01-2013, 05:02 PM   #1
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Exclamation "We are Driven" an automotive tuning culture documentary DVD need to film for it!

hey guys, not sure if you know about this video or not but a bunch of my buddies in long island and all around the east coast of the US are putting together this documentary and I'm filming some stuff for it showing the automotive tuning culture up here in ontario, as of today you can preorder but besides that, I need your help to put together some interviews and show what you guys are all about up here and what makes you different!.

they are looking for some meet footage as well as the interviews so if you know of any meets or would be interested if I set one up in about 2-3 weeks or so let me know!

this documentary will be epic!

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Old 04-02-2013, 05:42 PM   #2
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Their trailer really doesn't make me want to order their "Documentary" in any way... no excitement, poor sound, overly stretched tires..
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:45 PM   #3
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Their trailer really doesn't make me want to order their "Documentary" in any way... no excitement, poor sound, overly stretched tires..
Well okay then, sorry to hear that.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:00 PM   #4
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I am not into "stretch n poke" crap either. You should try Jap car forums where majority of the people are into stuff like this
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:05 PM   #5
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I am not into "stretch n poke" crap either. You should try Jap car forums where majority of the people are into stuff like this
You may not be but many others are. No need to call it "crap." Everyone has different taste - what's appealing to you may not be to another, and vice versa. And there are loads of BMW guys running mild stretch and poke setups which look amazing. Extreme stretch and poke may be more common in the VW/JDM crowd though.

Anyways, best of luck with your video, OP.
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You may not be but many others are. No need to call it "crap." Everyone has different taste - what's appealing to you may not be to another, and vice versa. And there are loads of BMW guys running mild stretch and poke setups which look amazing. Extreme stretch and poke may be more common in the VW/JDM crowd though.

Anyways, best of luck with your video, OP.
Excessive "Poke and stretch" is only for appearance and not practicality. I can go over plenty of reasons why its bad:

1) Rims exposed to more curb rash since there is no more tire wall protection
2) Excessive inflation required to prevent heavy wear on edges
3) Possibility of tire coming off the bead
4) Premature wear and tear on suspension components

I can only agree that mild setup is acceptable but again that is my opinion and people are allowed to do what ever they want.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:34 AM   #7
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Excessive "Poke and stretch" is only for appearance and not practicality. I can go over plenty of reasons why its bad:

1) Rims exposed to more curb rash since there is no more tire wall protection
2) Excessive inflation required to prevent heavy wear on edges
3) Possibility of tire coming off the bead
4) Premature wear and tear on suspension components

I can only agree that mild setup is acceptable but again that is my opinion and people are allowed to do what ever they want.
I fully and respectfully disagree with regards to the setup being impractical.

1) If you need a bubbly tire to protect your rim from curb rash, then you probably shouldn't park so close to curbs to begin with.
2) False. I always ran OEM inflation specifications. Never had any issues due to tire pressures.
3) It's possible, but not all that probable. Unless of course it is a VERY extreme stretch that is put under stressful conditions, then yeah.
4) False.

I have had everything from 235/35/19 all the way to 275/30/19 on my old 9.5" wide wheels. Each setup (235, 245, 255, 265, and 275) was at some point thrashed without remorse on the track (mostly at TMP Cayuga). Not once did the tire size ever have a detrimental effect attributable to the stretch. I did burnouts, peel outs, drifts, anything and everything imaginable to stress the tires to their absolute limits and never experienced any failures or concerns whatsoever. Some might consider the 235 on a 9.5" to be an extreme stretch, or my 235 on a 10" - others may consider it mild. Depends where you fall on the spectrum. Regardless, the impracticality claims that are rampant online are purely based off wild conjecture and perpetuating hearsay than actual experience, even if anecdotal.

But, as I said before, to each his own.
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I fully and respectfully disagree with regards to the setup being impractical.

1) If you need a bubbly tire to protect your rim from curb rash, then you probably shouldn't park so close to curbs to begin with.
2) False. I always ran OEM inflation specifications. Never had any issues due to tire pressures.
3) It's possible, but not all that probable. Unless of course it is a VERY extreme stretch that is put under stressful conditions, then yeah.
4) False.

I have had everything from 235/35/19 all the way to 275/30/19 on my old 9.5" wide wheels. Each setup (235, 245, 255, 265, and 275) was at some point thrashed without remorse on the track (mostly at TMP Cayuga). Not once did the tire size ever have a detrimental effect attributable to the stretch. I did burnouts, peel outs, drifts, anything and everything imaginable to stress the tires to their absolute limits and never experienced any failures or concerns whatsoever. Some might consider the 235 on a 9.5" to be an extreme stretch, or my 235 on a 10" - others may consider it mild. Depends where you fall on the spectrum. Regardless, the impracticality claims that are rampant online are purely based off wild conjecture and perpetuating hearsay than actual experience, even if anecdotal.

But, as I said before, to each his own.
Speaking in general, assuming that all tires are the same brand and compound, the tire size that gives you the fastest lap time (assuming optimized tire pressures) is the best, and by that definition any other tire size will have a detrimental effect, regardless of whether or not it's stretch or meat.

I'd have a hard time believing that if you were to put the stig on Cayuga with a 330ci with 235 tires and then again with 275 tires on the same day that there would be no discernible difference in lap times.

Also, depending on the aspect ratio of the tire, 9.5" is the upper end of the rim width range for some 235 tires, so it's not exactly extreme stretch.
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Old 04-12-2013, 04:15 PM   #9
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I fully and respectfully disagree with regards to the setup being impractical.

1) If you need a bubbly tire to protect your rim from curb rash, then you probably shouldn't park so close to curbs to begin with.
2) False. I always ran OEM inflation specifications. Never had any issues due to tire pressures.
3) It's possible, but not all that probable. Unless of course it is a VERY extreme stretch that is put under stressful conditions, then yeah.
4) False.

I have had everything from 235/35/19 all the way to 275/30/19 on my old 9.5" wide wheels. Each setup (235, 245, 255, 265, and 275) was at some point thrashed without remorse on the track (mostly at TMP Cayuga). Not once did the tire size ever have a detrimental effect attributable to the stretch. I did burnouts, peel outs, drifts, anything and everything imaginable to stress the tires to their absolute limits and never experienced any failures or concerns whatsoever. Some might consider the 235 on a 9.5" to be an extreme stretch, or my 235 on a 10" - others may consider it mild. Depends where you fall on the spectrum. Regardless, the impracticality claims that are rampant online are purely based off wild conjecture and perpetuating hearsay than actual experience, even if anecdotal.

But, as I said before, to each his own.
When I initially made the comment I was referring to the "excessive stretch" as seen in the video and not aimed at anyone here in particular. The specifications you posted above are moderate and NOT excessive. JDM/VW stretching of tires on the other hand is impractical and senseless therefore falls under the four points I had listed above.

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I am not into "stretch n poke" crap either. You should try Jap car forums where majority of the people are into stuff like this
Statements like this are a big reason other communities don't really like BMW guys.



Aggressive fitment is arguably more a euro car thing.
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The passenger seat and rear view mirror at 0:09 is killer.
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Old 04-03-2013, 03:35 PM   #12
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I would be afraid who they would interview for this documentary .. I think I would shut it off as soon as I heard ..

"Dude .. I got spoon exhaust and like 300 ponys in this thing"

"I dont know why cops dont leave us alone its not like were causing any trouble" with loud civic exhaust revving in the background

"I put a lot of money into this car .. I painted it ferrari red .. its worth a lot"

"racing gears"

"headlight fluid"

"its not a neon its an SRT4"

"I hit Vtec yo!"
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Old 04-03-2013, 04:19 PM   #13
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That is nicer than anything I can make, my videos consists of shaky images of me breathing heavily talking about jibberish and petting kittens.

Here's my virtual 2 cents, make this a public download for free, at the end of it, they are probably just trying to spread the words on what they can do, porn & wedding videos are where the money is at.
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my videos consists of shaky images of me breathing heavily talking about jibberish and petting kittens.
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Old 04-03-2013, 04:10 PM   #15
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I would be afraid who they would interview for this documentary .. I think I would shut it off as soon as I heard ..

"Dude .. I got spoon exhaust and like 300 ponys in this thing"

"I dont know why cops dont leave us alone its not like were causing any trouble" with loud civic exhaust revving in the background

"I put a lot of money into this car .. I painted it ferrari red .. its worth a lot"

"racing gears"

"headlight fluid"

"its not a neon its an SRT4"

"I hit Vtec yo!"
No, not like this at all.
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