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Old 02-21-2013, 09:29 AM   #1
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New rules regarding "Check Engine light" at mechanics



From what I heard they are changing the laws about emissions and if someone were to bring a car in to the mechanic with a check engine light they cannot take the car until that problem is fixed (or something along those lines)

Anyone else hear this or know more about it?

I guess buying a reset computer might be handy to have if you have an older car as I heard they are going to be problematic in terms of this new rule.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:16 AM   #2
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I guess buying a reset computer might be handy to have if you have an older car as I heard they are going to be problematic in terms of this new rule.

Nope that won't help either.

When then run the E-test, they check for I/M Readiness. If you CEL has recently been reset, the I/M protocols won't be "ready" and they're know the computer was just reset.

Read more here:

http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/environment...OD_102286.html
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:32 AM   #3
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Nope that won't help either.

When then run the E-test, they check for I/M Readiness. If you CEL has recently been reset, the I/M protocols won't be "ready" and they're know the computer was just reset.

Read more here:

http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/environment...OD_102286.html
basically all the sensors have to be live and the car has to be running in closed loop. you can definitely reset the car, drive it for 20 mins, and pass.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:46 AM   #4
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basically all the sensors have to be live and the car has to be running in closed loop. you can definitely reset the car, drive it for 20 mins, and pass.
What if your DME is by passing lets say, post 02 sensors? Will that show up as "not ready"?

I passed last year with flying colors even with no cats and a S/C when they tested my car under "hot rod status".
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Nope that won't help either.

When then run the E-test, they check for I/M Readiness. If you CEL has recently been reset, the I/M protocols won't be "ready" and they're know the computer was just reset.

Read more here:

http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/environment...OD_102286.html
Hi Folks.... As a brand new member , brand new BMW owner again ( just imported a 98 Z3 1.9 from Florida ) and having the somewhat aggravating experience of the new OBD testing setup I thought I'd pass on my tale of MOT blindness. I'm currently going to get my 3rd e test ( OBDII reading ) on Friday after having spent $52.00 so far plus $155.00 for a camshaft sensor ( which by the way did improve response as well as gas mileage )
Where the MOT comes in as useless is their generic test for resetting your monitors to read READY . It seems after numerous people have had a shot at checking my OBD that of three people in one day I had three different readings. One showed two not ready's. Another showed all were ready. The E teats itself showed 5 NOT READY !!! The question to me after making sure I put on lots of miles , going thru about $70.00 worth of gas and getting 3 different opinions from the same auto shop from 3 different mechanics was , what exactly does it take to get these monitors to be READY.
It seems there are more opinions about how or what way to drive for how long and how far at at what relative temperature than there are types of cars. I'm currently in the process in the last two days of using this drive cycle that I found on this forum and will use it tomorrow before I go for my 3 rd and hopefully last test . The intent from Ontario's gov'ts is well noted but like most people I've read on this forum I do believe this program has outlived it's usefulness .
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:26 PM   #6
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Hi Folks.... As a brand new member , brand new BMW owner again ( just imported a 98 Z3 1.9 from Florida ) and having the somewhat aggravating experience of the new OBD testing setup I thought I'd pass on my tale of MOT blindness. I'm currently going to get my 3rd e test ( OBDII reading ) on Friday after having spent $52.00 so far plus $155.00 for a camshaft sensor ( which by the way did improve response as well as gas mileage )
Where the MOT comes in as useless is their generic test for resetting your monitors to read READY . It seems after numerous people have had a shot at checking my OBD that of three people in one day I had three different readings. One showed two not ready's. Another showed all were ready. The E teats itself showed 5 NOT READY !!! The question to me after making sure I put on lots of miles , going thru about $70.00 worth of gas and getting 3 different opinions from the same auto shop from 3 different mechanics was , what exactly does it take to get these monitors to be READY.
It seems there are more opinions about how or what way to drive for how long and how far at at what relative temperature than there are types of cars. I'm currently in the process in the last two days of using this drive cycle that I found on this forum and will use it tomorrow before I go for my 3 rd and hopefully last test . The intent from Ontario's gov'ts is well noted but like most people I've read on this forum I do believe this program has outlived it's usefulness .
Why did you change the cam sensor? Was it due to an engine code? I'm going through the same with mine now, engine code due to CPS, but I think it's got more to do with the Vanos system than the sensor itself
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I've been told that the new testing will allow for 1 not ready on the results, providing it isn't a major fault like misfiring, 02 sensors, etc.
Nearly every single older European car will have a fault for the evap system (gas cap or vacuum line somewhere), nothing that effects the performance of it.

In any case, they are trying to kill the used car market.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:10 AM   #8
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Thats such bullshit .. cant believe the government is getting away with this. It makes sense to get rid of those people not taking care of there cars and polluting the environment but if its something minor you cant get your car back from the mechanic I can see a lot of small claim court cases arising. I bet a lot of mechanics don't like the idea of this .. or maybe they do .. i dunno
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:17 AM   #9
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Just reading the website .. this would help in buying a used car to make sure it is "ready" when its emission tested (not screwed with) so this way you could tell if the engine was working correctly in the last little while.
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^^you are exempt from the rules as a hot rod.


the whole point of O2 sensors is they trick the ECU into thinking you're stoich. should pass just fine.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:36 PM   #12
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Love the new rules
How did you get your car registered as a "hot rod"

I know kit cars go under the same rules.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:00 PM   #13
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How did you get your car registered as a "hot rod"

I know kit cars go under the same rules.
Swapped engine qualifies as "hot rod status" (the displacement has to be higher though) - since the car is originally a 2.5 liter but now its 3.2 liter you can run it under "hot rod".
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Swapped engine qualifies as "hot rod status" (the displacement has to be higher though) - since the car is originally a 2.5 liter but now its 3.2 liter you can run it under "hot rod".
And there were no problems re-registering it? what did insurance say? did you have problems re-insuring?
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Stupid new test - they should repeal and put back the old system.
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