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Old 01-12-2013, 10:25 PM   #1
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Speeding ticket



I know theres alot of these tpyes of posts but nonetheless the advice is appreciated.

Anyway I did a right turn at a red light and gunned it to about 90 going up the hill, put in neutral and cruised a bit. But it was too late, cop already saw me at intersection and he gunned it and pulled me over. Said I was going 40 over but gave me a ticker for going 20 over in a 60 zone.

The ticket doesn't show it was dropped from 40 over or anything. So I mean this 20 over should I just pay? or should I fight it?
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Old 01-12-2013, 10:45 PM   #2
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20 over i think you recieve points so it's really up to you. I think if you have the time to fight it, then why not? Worth a shot.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:05 AM   #3
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I know theres alot of these tpyes of posts but nonetheless the advice is appreciated.

Anyway I did a right turn at a red light and gunned it to about 90 going up the hill, put in neutral and cruised a bit. But it was too late, cop already saw me at intersection and he gunned it and pulled me over. Said I was going 40 over but gave me a ticker for going 20 over in a 60 zone.

The ticket doesn't show it was dropped from 40 over or anything. So I mean this 20 over should I just pay? or should I fight it?
If you fight it, you are fighting the actual 40 over charge. If you have a case or follow this site (ASK FOR DISCLOSURE!!!) you could win and get off squeaky clean.

I recommend fighting it, follow this site:
http://www.roadwarriors.ca/ontario_t...ckets_tutorial

your other option is go on for a first appearance. speak to the prosecutor and they'll drop it to 15 over which is zero demerit points.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:54 AM   #4
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Cop probably put an "R" on the ticket meaning he reduced the speed..if the cop shows up and you got the disclosure in time you are screwed and better make a deal with the prosecutor before your case is called.I was charged under the HTA and got it thrown out due to it was over 11 months and I got the disclosrer at the trial and the witnesses never showed.My lucky damn day.....
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:54 AM   #5
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ya...as others have said...ask for disclosure immediately. at worst you get the same deal on day of the trial. chances are no disclosure will be sent. and you get another round to fight it.

unless you are nearing 6 points...the biggest concern is impact to insurance. points or not points an infraction does show up on your abstract. and insurance if they pull it will see it and hello to bend over time.

here's another site...very similar to earlier one posted. not asking for court date is no excuse.

the long term impact to your wallet is insurance hike.

http://www.ticketcombat.com/step4/disclosure.php
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:37 AM   #6
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Thx for the info guys. Taking it to court. I just do not know what I am going to defend. I guess that depends a lot on disclosure?

when the officer pulled me over he just told me I think you were doing a 100 because that's what I did to catch up to you. And I said I was like doing maybe 80, if that - and he reduced it to 20 over in a 60 zone and not 40 over....

Im just worried I go to court and get nailed with the 40 over in the end

any more thoughts?
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:19 AM   #7
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So you confessed to doing 20 over. That was pretty stupid, and is going to be very hard to beat in court. Hope that he doesn't show.


Remember: Demerit points dont matter unless you're losing your licence. Fines for speeding are small. You're fighting to keep your insurance cheap. Admitting guilt to an officer is NEVER the right thing to do, especially when he admitted to you he had no idea how fast you were going. (Officers cannot "guess" your speed based on how fast they were going to catch you, that will never stand up in court.)
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:38 PM   #8
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So you confessed to doing 20 over. That was pretty stupid, and is going to be very hard to beat in court. Hope that he doesn't show.


Remember: Demerit points dont matter unless you're losing your licence. Fines for speeding are small. You're fighting to keep your insurance cheap. Admitting guilt to an officer is NEVER the right thing to do, especially when he admitted to you he had no idea how fast you were going. (Officers cannot "guess" your speed based on how fast they were going to catch you, that will never stand up in court.)
Bingo. Need solid proof. Never EVER admit guilt. Also fight it! Hire someone if you can't handle it, its worth it
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:24 PM   #9
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OMG.. DO not fight the ticket. Check the box that is Plead Guilty but talk to the Prosecutor. They will most likely switch the ticket to 10 over no points. And if they dont and you still want to fight it you still have that option.

The Prosecutor is there to help you out.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:41 PM   #10
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I would fight it, request disclosure and go from there. You could plead guilty with an explanation and hope for a lower penalty but your insurance wont care, a ticket is a ticket and your rates will most likely go up as a result. Also, the ticket will remain on your driving record for a period of time which wont help in any subsequent stops by police. I'm not saying there isn't risk in fighting it, because there is, but this is the only route to totally get rid of the ticket.

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Remember: Demerit points dont matter unless you're losing your licence. Fines for speeding are small. You're fighting to keep your insurance cheap. Admitting guilt to an officer is NEVER the right thing to do, especially when he admitted to you he had no idea how fast you were going. (Officers cannot "guess" your speed based on how fast they were going to catch you, that will never stand up in court.)
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:46 PM   #11
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OMG.. DO not fight the ticket. Check the box that is Plead Guilty but talk to the Prosecutor. They will most likely switch the ticket to 10 over no points. And if they dont and you still want to fight it you still have that option.

The Prosecutor is there to help you out.
omg really?!? The prosecutor is a ****ing asshole, always will be an asshole, and thinks everyone else is the asshole.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:55 PM   #12
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omg really?!? The prosecutor is a ****ing asshole, always will be an asshole, and thinks everyone else is the asshole.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:36 PM   #13
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As Ivan said, you already confessed to the crime by admitting you were doing 20 over (not smart). He had nothing on you until you said that.

Do as some here said and follow roadwarriors (request disclosure, file a court date, wait as neither come on time, play your cards right in response, etc). You have a good chance of getting off completely if you educate yourself well and go in knowing how to play the game.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:16 PM   #14
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you know ive been generally blessed by not being pulled over, so I've never had to talk to a cop about this stuff.

but how can the officer say you were doing 40 over? How does he know? Do they have radar on their dashboards now or something?

I mean if the cop pulled you over, what is he going to say?

Do you know how fast you were going?
'the speed limit'
No you were doing 40 over the limit!
'umm, Im pretty sure I was doing the limit'
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:17 PM   #15
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Ok a lot of advice being given is BAD advice .. I have extensive experience with the consequences of settling on a lesser charge .. No matter what, FIGHT IT... This is important because if you don't win completely (meaning no conviction of any kind), you will face insurance rate consequences on your next renewal. Believe me, points don't matter (is used by mto only), its the conviction that matters no matter how low they reduce the fine to. The extra insurance premium you pay for 3 years from the date of conviction will be far greater than any savings you could achieve with a reduced charge
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