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01-10-2012, 09:41 PM
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1st Gear Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada
Posts: 49
Car: '97 M3
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Crazy amount of shifter play. Any advice?
This summer I had a UUC Evo3 SSK installed in my car. The kit was a noticeable improvement over the stock shifter, but there was still far too much play then I think is acceptable. And I still can't manage to lower the shift height, despite how much liquid wrench I squirt in the little hole on the shaft.
Here are a couple of videos of how much play I have. I tried to get as close as i can to the part I see moving around and what I think is the problem.
http://youtu.be/yZtAu7a36ME
http://youtu.be/IrDOPB46biY
Any ideas on what I can do to resolve this?
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01-10-2012, 10:52 PM
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2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Markham, Ontario
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Car: 1992 325is
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The problem looks like its in your linkage. You dont have the DSSR, do you?
Everything else looks solid. Whats the play like in the lower shift leaver bushing?
Was this kit new or used?
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01-10-2012, 11:02 PM
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1st Gear Newbie
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Car: '97 M3
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I have the DSSR, To my knowledge, all the bushings was replaced. not sure about the bushing, shouldn't be loose, but i haven't had a chance to go under the car yet. It was new.
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01-10-2012, 11:09 PM
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5th Gear Member
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did you put the little yellow shims in?
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01-11-2012, 09:21 PM
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2nd Gear Member
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Location: Markham, Ontario
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Car: 1992 325is
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Do all bolts and shims come in the UUC kit? If not make sure the ID and OD of the bolds and holes all match.
Its a long shot, but it could be a worn gearshift rod joint.
In the picture link, #12 is what I'm talking about.
RealOEM: Gearshift rod joint
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Last edited by Discostar; 01-11-2012 at 09:28 PM.
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01-11-2012, 11:03 PM
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1st Gear Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada
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Car: '97 M3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Discostar
Do all bolts and shims come in the UUC kit? If not make sure the ID and OD of the bolds and holes all match.
Its a long shot, but it could be a worn gearshift rod joint.
In the picture link, #12 is what I'm talking about.
RealOEM: Gearshift rod joint
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As far as I know it comes with almost everything. When I spoke to Terry today she said when it comes to replacing the shifter linkage they replace all the bushings. I had a feeling that might be where the problem is too, everything else looks nice and tight.
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01-11-2012, 08:03 AM
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1st Gear Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada
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Car: '97 M3
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I didnt do the install myself, but to my knowledge all parts were installed. Duss did the work.
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01-12-2012, 01:01 AM
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2nd Gear Member
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Aurora, ON
Posts: 109
Car: '95 318iS
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sorry not to thread jack, but I have the exact same problem but on a completely stock shifter and everything.. Should I my problem be the same as yours?
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01-12-2012, 04:49 PM
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2nd Gear Member
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Location: Markham, Ontario
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Car: 1992 325is
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Giormelo
sorry not to thread jack, but I have the exact same problem but on a completely stock shifter and everything.. Should I my problem be the same as yours?
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Could be on of the problems. But it is more likely due to overall ware and tare from age. Before I replaced my shifter, it had 270k on it. It felt like I could shift again after I had already shifted.
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Originally Posted by Deo
I'll take a look under the car today. When I called the shop they said they would have replaced that sponge, but you never know, could it be the whole joint itself? The selector rod is the DSSR so that shouldnt be a problem.
If it were the transmission, would that be something that could be fixed? Or would I be looking at replacong it?
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Was this amount of play in each gear before you replaced the shifter? It doesnt sound like its your transmission but if it is, you will prolly wanna look at a replacement unless you can rebuild yourself.
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Last edited by Discostar; 01-12-2012 at 04:53 PM.
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01-12-2012, 05:14 PM
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1st Gear Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada
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Car: '97 M3
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Yep, this has been here for a while, and was my initial reasoning for getting the SSK cause i'd get shorter throws and replace all the bushings I would have if I had just done an overall refresh. Apparently I was wrong...
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01-12-2012, 03:12 AM
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Stance is Gay.
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Location: Ancaster
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Car: '06 325i
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You're going to have to check underneath the car. Too hard to tell from up top.
But there are only a few things that can cause that much play. The selector joint, a worn out selector rod, or the transmission itself, assuming everything is installed properly with the washers.
My money is on the selector joint. There is a foam ball inside to keep it tight and they wear out often.
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01-12-2012, 09:07 AM
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1st Gear Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada
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Car: '97 M3
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I'll take a look under the car today. When I called the shop they said they would have replaced that sponge, but you never know, could it be the whole joint itself? The selector rod is the DSSR so that shouldnt be a problem.
If it were the transmission, would that be something that could be fixed? Or would I be looking at replacong it?
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01-12-2012, 05:45 PM
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Parts Hoarding Specialist
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Milton
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Car: '91 318i, '91 318is
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Discostar
Its a long shot, but it could be a worn gearshift rod joint. In the picture link, #12 is what I'm talking about.
RealOEM: Gearshift rod joint
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doogee
My money is on the selector joint. There is a foam ball inside to keep it tight and they wear out often.
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Bingo. Easy to overlook because of the pain in the ass it is to get at.
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01-12-2012, 11:51 PM
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2nd Gear Member
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Location: Aurora, ON
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Car: '95 318iS
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Just to clarify is it this part?(Yellow)
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01-13-2012, 11:41 PM
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Parts Hoarding Specialist
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Location: Milton
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yuppers, but the delerin/plastic that the linkage attaches to is worn as well. Presumably.
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1986 E30 325e (killed)
1986 E30 325es (died)
1988 E30 325i (rotted)
1992 E34 525i (sold)
1992 E30 318i (cabrio, Dad's)
1989 E30 325i (Mom's)
1991 E30 318i (cabrio, summer car)
1991 E30 318is (Winter car)
1992 Euro M5 (driveway decoration)
1994 E36 325is (driveway junk)
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