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Old 09-30-2010, 02:24 PM   #1
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The end of my rope

Well, I think that I am hitting the end of my BMW tolerance. The car flunked emissions today (blew over on the NOX), and I apparently need a new center link. This is on top of the other issues (cooling system is due, rear ball joints, replacement of the struts after 50K kms, etc). Thinking it's time to give up the ghost before something really expensive happens again. I love driving it, but it would be nice to have a car where everything worked for once.
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:36 PM   #2
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Shitteh. Sorry to hear that P. I hate to admit but I've been feeling that way too. I keep thinking my E36 didn't need this much work and it had over 250k.

To do on my car:
Shocks/struts
tranny fluid change
Summer tires
possible rear main
paint front bumper, fix rust on trunk and lower doors
and I think my VCG is leaking again only a hell of a lot this time around

I've been eying a ginormous SUV in the last couple of weeks. A Durango or Expedition would be pretty awesome.
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Old 10-01-2010, 09:55 AM   #3
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Damn, time to sell and get a something more reliable. Acura parts, especially TL can be really expensive, but I'm sure they are generally more reliable than a BMW.
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Shitteh. Sorry to hear that P. I hate to admit but I've been feeling that way too. I keep thinking my E36 didn't need this much work and it had over 250k.

To do on my car:
Shocks/struts
tranny fluid change
Summer tires
possible rear main
paint front bumper, fix rust on trunk and lower doors
and I think my VCG is leaking again only a hell of a lot this time around

I've been eying a ginormous SUV in the last couple of weeks. A Durango or Expedition would be pretty awesome.
Why is VCG leaking so soon again?
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Old 10-01-2010, 10:34 AM   #4
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Here is a pic of my Bimmer during better times.



I think that I might have sorted out the reason for my high NOx reading -- my coolant was low (I have a leaking expansion tank). This is one of the reasons I saw listed on my web research, so I might be able to coax a pass by changing that tank, or just topping up the coolant, and doing some stuff like cleaning the MAF and changing the air filter. I blew comfortably clean on everything else.

I am going to look at a couple of cars today. I know the TL is more reliable than the Bimmer -- apparently the only thing that goes wrong on them regularly is the auto transaxle, and I buy manuals. And most of the hard parts on the TL are Honda Accord parts.

The problem for me right now is money. I have a bunch of bills coming up (all centred around my cottage) and some expenses coming up on my house. I need a car, but am having a hard time getting around my aversion to paying for necessities . And with my build, being a man-whore is completely out.
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Old 10-01-2010, 11:22 PM   #5
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I think that I might have sorted out the reason for my high NOx reading -- my coolant was low (I have a leaking expansion tank). This is one of the reasons I saw listed on my web research, so I might be able to coax a pass by changing that tank, or just topping up the coolant, and doing some stuff like cleaning the MAF and changing the air filter. I blew comfortably clean on everything else.

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For a car to last, and be anywhere close to reliable, you HAVE to maintain it...When you have a leaking coolant system, i am scared to think what else was overlooked on your car!

I see it all the time, not long ago a customer caused $1300 of damage by not changing a fan clutch!!! All could have been avoided (and he was told so!) with less then $100...

Some of the best cars i owned are high KM, but well taken care of; my 330 has 240K and my Expedition 430K, both super reliable!!!
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Old 10-02-2010, 12:23 AM   #6
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For a car to last, and be anywhere close to reliable, you HAVE to maintain it...When you have a leaking coolant system, i am scared to think what else was overlooked on your car!
I am frustrated with my vehicle -- I don't think that this gives you license to insult me.

I maintain my cars very well, thank you very much. It's just that maintaining it constantly, with other items needing maintaining as each one is fixed is getting to me -- hell, it's already gotten to me. With the amount I have spent on this car, purchase and repairs all in, I could have bought a pretty good new car. This has been BY FAR the most unreliable car I have owned. I have done the intake manifold gasket/valley pan job, had to get the timing chain guides replaced after one broke ($2300 at a labour rate of $65/hour -- 10 hours plus parts), replacing the cats, as well as shocks and struts.

Now I am facing a cooling system job, new centre link and tie rods, new rear ball joints (because if you're going to align it, make sure everything is tip-top) replacing the Sachs struts that gave up after 45,000 kms (free under warranty -- if I send them back to BavAuto to get a new set of Sachs ), on top of a couple of minor items. I don't have a garage, and I don't fit under cars easily. In parts alone, I am looking at roughly 25 percent of the vehicle's value, and that percent rises if you're looking to trade (one place I asked today said they wouldn't even take it).

So now I am thinking that maybe it's time to move on (I haven't decided yet, and money is a factor) to something that will relieve a serious source of stress in my life, and you're impugning my car care habits? I invite you, sir, to get bent.
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Old 10-02-2010, 12:50 AM   #7
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Damn, time to sell and get a something more reliable. Acura parts, especially TL can be really expensive, but I'm sure they are generally more reliable than a BMW.
Say what in the who now?

Expensive is relative. More expensive then a similar year/make BMW? Highly doubt that. And yes - I have one, and I don't know. Know why? I haven't needed any parts!!

Definitely more reliable. Those who give the story about "the driving experience" blah blah blah are making themselves feel better. My driving experience is much better, however I do have a slight pain in the left butt cheek... oh wait... That's my money still in my wallet...
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Old 10-02-2010, 02:48 AM   #8
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Say what in the who now?

Expensive is relative. More expensive then a similar year/make BMW? Highly doubt that. And yes - I have one, and I don't know. Know why? I haven't needed any parts!!

Definitely more reliable. Those who give the story about "the driving experience" blah blah blah are making themselves feel better. My driving experience is much better, however I do have a slight pain in the left butt cheek... oh wait... That's my money still in my wallet...
We've had to order some parts for Acuras before and they were fairly expensive for a glorified Honda. Plus, the V6 models have very little room in engine bays to do anything.
Don't get me wrong, I specially like the 2004+ TLs. Exterior is nice, beautiful interior, they are reliable. But by the end of the day, its still an Acura.
I still like my BMWs after owning them for a long time. But if I was to buy anything Japanese, I'd get bored with it after 3 months.

PS: "The driving experience" thing is pretty much true. I've driven enough cars to know the difference. If we wanted to buy something reliable, everyone in this board would have so many other options other than Euro cars. Even if we do pour money into these cars, we still love it.

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Old 10-02-2010, 09:36 AM   #9
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PS: "The driving experience" thing is pretty much true. I've driven enough cars to know the difference. If we wanted to buy something reliable, everyone in this board would have so many other options other than Euro cars. Even if we do pour money into these cars, we still love it.
So have I - From Ferrari's to Z4's to M6's to all kinds of Porsche's.

A 3 series BMW doesn't entrall me to the road. Now if you go higher, M5's, M6's, etc that different, but it's also WELL out of the same price range, so you'd expect different.
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Old 10-02-2010, 11:20 AM   #10
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PS: "The driving experience" thing is pretty much true. I've driven enough cars to know the difference. If we wanted to buy something reliable, everyone in this board would have so many other options other than Euro cars. Even if we do pour money into these cars, we still love it.
I'll agree with this statement -- BMWs are wonderful to drive, when they're right. The TL is good to drive, not great, but rarely breaks (save for the automatic transaxle).

The two TLs that I looked at were not perfect, but were decent -- they had flaws like any other used car. One had a troubling problem with the power windows, the other had everything working, but looked like it had scraped something along the right side -- a bit of a wow in the paint on the door. This was the dealer that, when I asked for a rough idea how much I could get for mine in trade, refused to take the car as there would be no money in it for them.
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The E39's, especially the V8's are definitely costly when it comes to maintenance, my father has an M5 so I can understand your pain. Our 2002 530i has been pretty good to us though, it's around 160,000km and the only parts replaced so far are a front and rear sway bar link, a front right brake caliper, and a cam sensor. Recently though the power locks and power windows have been flaky, probably some accessory module that's crapping out. The M5 is only at 75,000km though and it needed the water pump done this year

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I've been eying a ginormous SUV in the last couple of weeks. A Durango or Expedition would be pretty awesome.
The Durango is a lemon (at least the ones in the early 2000's were) they were so bad that people were talking about class action law suits against Chrysler. Don't sell your BMW and buy one hoping that it's going to be an amazingly reliable vehicle....
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I've been eying a ginormous SUV in the last couple of weeks. A Durango or Expedition would be pretty awesome.
I love my Expedition, but the cost of parts is just as much (sometimes MORE) then a BMW!!! Unless you have a purpos for it, fuel cost will make you cry...Even with the small V8, i'm looking at $10K+year if i DD it...
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Old 09-30-2010, 03:29 PM   #13
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It would haul all of your BMW parts!

I have been eyeing an Acura TL or going the other direction and getting a Mazda3 (both used). They don't feel as "special," but then they likely won't feel like a never ending pain in the butt either.
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It would haul all of your BMW parts!

I have been eyeing an Acura TL or going the other direction and getting a Mazda3 (both used). They don't feel as "special," but then they likely won't feel like a never ending pain in the butt either.
I did exactly that after my '99 323i cost me $10K in 18 months. Bought a 2002 Acura 3.2TL - Traded it 2 years ago for a 2006 Acura TL. Now I'm thinkin' of the new one! LOL...

NO major issues at ALL with my Acura's - Normal stuff like brakes, etc.

I have fun in my TL - it's nice having ALL the amenities. I have Navi/bluetooth/the works...

Go for it!

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I did exactly that after my '99 323i cost me $10K in 18 months. Bought a 2002 Acura 3.2TL - Traded it 2 years ago for a 2006 Acura TL. Now I'm thinkin' of the new one! LOL...

NO major issues at ALL with my Acura's - Normal stuff like brakes, etc.

I have fun in my TL - it's nice having ALL the amenities. I have Navi/bluetooth/the works...

Go for it!

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BUT i guess we have a better forum, for you to be hanging here so long!
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