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Old 04-01-2008, 05:54 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Touge.ca - April 27th Mosport DDT Track lapping events

hi All bimmer drivers,

We had a great success in last year track lapping events. Now 2008 season is coming, our first lapping will be on Mosport DDT.



For the 1st track day, it will be a great opportunity for newbies/beginners to bring your rides out (even your car is stock and running all season tires), we will have a longer warmup period on April 27th, and special setup for the newbies group.

April 27th Mosport DDT signup/details here

Feel free to email info@Touge.ca for any questions. Or kindly visit www.Touge.ca for all details and lapping schedule.

For last year photos, please check out Touge.ca "Media" section.


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Old 04-04-2008, 01:49 PM   #2
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Isn't BMWCC using the track from April 25-27?
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:56 PM   #3
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Isn't BMWCC using the track from April 25-27?
BMWCC is using the main circuit. This club is using the DDT, two separate tracks.
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:28 PM   #4
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BMWCC is using the main circuit. This club is using the DDT, two separate tracks.
Gotcha.
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:41 PM   #5
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we will visit the main circuit on 27th, and say hi to our bimmer friends there..
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:45 AM   #6
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I just signed up. Touge runs excellent track days! Highly recommended.

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Old 04-14-2008, 10:19 PM   #7
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How do most people like the 'straights-only' passing rule? Just curious.
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:24 PM   #8
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How do most people like the 'straights-only' passing rule? Just curious.
I think its a good thing to ensure someone doesn't get overzealous and slam into a wall, or worse, another car.

I think most ppl don't have an issue waiting for the straight.

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Old 04-14-2008, 10:29 PM   #9
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I think its a good thing to ensure someone doesn't get overzealous and slam into a wall, or worse, another car.

I think most ppl don't have an issue waiting for the straight.

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What about if your car is slow on the straights (like mine) and fast in turns? Then the only fun place (turns) you get held up. ??
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Old 04-15-2008, 04:39 PM   #10
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What about if your car is slow on the straights (like mine) and fast in turns? Then the only fun place (turns) you get held up. ??
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If the slower car in front wasn't aware of you presence in the straight and is blocking you off in the corner because he didn't point you by, then that's another reason to move it to beginner...

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What he said

I had the same problem before, I had the line down pat, so my speed in the corners was just nutty, and a guy in a faster car in the straight was holding me up. He saw me there but didn't wanna let me pass cause he could hang with me in the straights. Then they divided the groups into beginner and advanced. Problem solved as that dude went to beginner, I went to advanced, and the group was smaller so I only had to contend with 2 vipers, a lambo, a Z06, and a Carrera S. Muuuch better

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Old 04-14-2008, 10:36 PM   #11
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^^ Rudy i think that there should be 2 groups for that. Beginner and Advanced. And lets say beginner has straights only passing, and advanced is anywhere.
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^^ Rudy i think that there should be 2 groups for that. Beginner and Advanced. And lets say beginner has straights only passing, and advanced is anywhere.
And those who are sooooo slow in corners should go to Beginners group. There's no reason to be slow in an advanced group. Probably the result of unproper groups assignation. At the end, speed ends up being the same in corners for most cars, and the "need" to pass in corners simply disappears. If the slower car in front wasn't aware of you presence in the straight and is blocking you off in the corner because he didn't point you by, then that's another reason to move it to beginner...

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Old 04-20-2008, 08:51 PM   #13
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And those who are sooooo slow in corners should go to Beginners group. There's no reason to be slow in an advanced group. Probably the result of unproper groups assignation. At the end, speed ends up being the same in corners for most cars, and the "need" to pass in corners simply disappears. If the slower car in front wasn't aware of you presence in the straight and is blocking you off in the corner because he didn't point you by, then that's another reason to move it to beginner...

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Not necessarily true, just because your car is faster than someone elses doesn't mean that they are not an advanced driver. If they don't know how to corner yeah i agree, they should be in a lower group, but definetly in the advanced group the power and performance of cars can vary. This is assuming you group drivers based on track experience, not car performance.

Anyways, last year i went to a trackday at DDT and they had a pretty good set up to deal with driver skill and passing. They had beginner, intermediate, and advanced categories, and for each category a different track config to limit top speeds. Beginner category could only pass on the front straight, and the driver infront had to signal them thru by putting their hand out the window. The intermediate and advanced categories could pass anywhere on the track, but once again the driver ahead has to signal you thru first.
It's important to really lay down the rules at the drivers meeting because at these lapping days your not "racing" your out there to have a good time if someone thinks they're racing and won't signal or let anyone thru then the event organizers should deal with that accordingly. I will say however that if you are there with a friend(s) that you have driven with before, lapping in the same category there's no problem having some fun and chasing eachother around the track

For the begginner and intermediate grounps, by the end of the day once everyone was more familiar with the track and the people lapping in their group the event organizers changed the config of the track to allow for some more speed because DDT is a kart track, and on the begginner config i barely used 4th gear, it was all 2nd and 3rd, the fastest i could get going was like 140km/h. I left the trackday before they changed the configs but for sure on the fastest config (advanced) i probably would have been able to get up to 170km/h. Make sure you have good brake fluid for the advanced category because a couple guys boiled theirs because of the highspeed -> heavy braking.

Good luck with the event guys.
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:40 PM   #14
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^ Problem is, with limited time, thats not possible. It would become too unorganized very quickly.

I guess I could stick to BE for cheap track time with unlimited passing. Show those H0nduhhz what Euro is all about
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honestly, me and my buddies do pass each other at the corners a lot, since we know each other and we know what we are doing. But we never do that to other drivers and anyone we don't know especially when you are not sure you are passing a newbie/some experienced/advanced, even the driver you are passing is an advanced one, he can make mistake anytime, or may be ended up he is gonna out-fast you exciting the corner.
We did have a few small groups (3 to 5 cars in a group) of corner-passing enthrusiasts in our lapping events before, as long as they keep it to themselves, don't confuse others and cause confusion/accidents/complaints, happy lapping.
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