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Old 12-07-2011, 12:24 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by damameke View Post
Tougher law do work, look at Singapore and I believe Malaysia has tough law too especially with drug trafficking.

drug dealer - hung and this law was implemented
I believed in the 70 and smugglers will bypass the Singapore airport.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_...Act_(Singapore)

vandalise a car - caught - cane: well known case in 1975

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_P._Fay

Littering the street in Singapore; pays a hefty fine and the litterbugs are made to wear bright jackets, and sometimes, the local media are invited to cover the public spectacle.

http://www.expatsingapore.com/content/view/1376

so is bill C10 good for Canada?, I dunno but I guess time will tell, there is always some tinkering down the road .....


A study carried out by the United Nations Organisation concluded that Singapore has the highest per capita execution indicator in the world, three times higher than Saudi Arabia that follows Singapore on the list and is known worldwide for the strictness of its laws.

http://www.talkingdrugs.org/death-pe...for-drug-use-0

"In Singapore, those accused of gun crime or drug trafficking are sentenced to death. The Misuse Drug Act includes the death penalty for at least 20 drug-related crimes. For example, the mere possession of more than 500 grams of hashish or marijuana is punishable by death. The same applies to the possession of more than 15 grams of hard drugs such as amphetamines or heroin.

The law has been strongly criticised by human rights organisations which say that the act contains provisions that violate the right of presumption of innocence. Under this law, many addicts have been executed for possession of relatively small amounts of drugs.

But despite the severity of the law, drug abuse figures for heroin have showed an upward trend over the past four years. According to figures from the Central Narcotics Bureau (CNB) of Singapore, 1876 addicts were arrested last year 60% of whom were heroin addicts, while in 2008 46% of 1925 arrests were heroin addicts. The Director of the CNB thinks that one of the reasons that explain the increase in heroin use is the proximity to one of the largest areas where opium is produced, the “Golden Triangle”, an area of 210.000 square miles in the mountains shared by Myanmar, Vietnam, Laos and Thailand."

Granted it does only mentioned psychically addictive drugs such as heroin, I tried to find more soft drugs and if they have been dropping. Turns out that drug use overall has been dropping but they combat drugs not JUST with penalties but with social programs which is what I am arguing is more effective that penalties. Not to mention that the law Singapore passed is illiberal in the sense it is against our constitution ( part of presumed trafficking). Oh by the way if you want to argue its more the severity of punishment rather than social programs making the difference then be sure to remember it is the death penalty.

I would be more for this bill if they would just focus on society rather than penalties which are far more less effective.

EDIT: forgot source of social programs http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...licy-drugs-bay
"Strong community support against drug abuse has been critical to our fight against drugs. Singapore society resolutely rejects drug abuse. Several voluntary welfare organisations run halfway houses to help recovering addicts adjust back into society. Many employers also come forward to offer reformed drug addicts employment opportunities"
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