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Paul540/m3 04-29-2005 11:33 PM

Revshot Feedback = Unprofessional
 
Revshot (Jay I think) made arrangement s to sell a steering wheel to my brother and then went and sold it right from under him. After showing interest in the steering wheel my brother called revshot and made arrangements to meet on sunday in burlington. The very same night ( within a matter of hours) I recieved a PM saying that he had sold the wheel to someone else. This is extremely unprofessional and would not be tolerated in the real business world. I am not only disappointed but also appalled by these practices. If you make a deal with someone and make arrangements to meet and make a transaction then you should follow through with your word and not welch on the deal. Some may even call you a hypocrite for bitching and complaining about people wasting your time with lowball offers and then you go and waste other people's time and energy making arrangments and then backing out without so much as a phone call to the intended buyer.

I can't really do anything about this other than warn other members and share my experience when dealing with this member. Even if it makes one person think twice before dealing with him then my job here is done. We won't get into his previous misrepresentations (and I'm being kind here) on bimmerforums.
Thanks for taking the time to read this i hope the same does not happen to you.

RevShoT 04-29-2005 11:53 PM

oh man ur such a baby!

ur brother wasnt even sure if he wanted the wheel!

he calls me said he is interested he will call me tommorow if he is comming down sunday to LOOK at the wheel at the end of the phone call he tells me he is 90% sure he wants this wheel

sorry bout your luck but this gentleman who came and picked up the wheel was 100% sure he wanted it, he came down right away and purchased it for the exact same price i was going to sell to paul's brother.

bottom line, pauls brother was not 100% of the transaction and this other person was, im not going to loose a definite sale over a mabey sale period.

and just so you know, i have been holding my M knob for almost 3 weeks for a guy on max and have turned down 4 or 5 guys offers while they were at my house to take it off my hands, when a deal was struck i am a man of my word, there was no deal here only interest period.

M50E30 04-29-2005 11:57 PM

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If he wanted the wheel that bad then he should have got off his butt and got it right away.

Jay did the right thing since 99% of the time people from here don't show up or try to lowball.

So I have to say.......stop being a baby and........

RevShoT 04-30-2005 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by M50E30

99% of the time people from here don't show

ive held many things for people who have failed to show up and turned down possible sales and then lost those sales cause i gave someone my word.

sorry but cash comes first, it would have been a different story now if he had struck a deal comfirmed im comming to pick up the wheel sunday. then i would have held it no problem, but for a 90% to 100% guy is a big difference

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A.K.A Blackout

As well, he kept the side skirt aside for me to pick up and explained everything about them so that I knew what I was getting.
quote from a few threads down

Paul540/m3 04-30-2005 12:18 AM

He told you he wanted it 90% in the first phone conversation and then called and confirmed making arrangements to meet up with you and purchase the wheel. I would call that 100%. Even a phone call would have been a courteous gesture as you had a deal already on the table. I don't want to reduce this thread to name calling and immaturity so you can call your wingman off ok.

As for M50E30- i Don't recall you having anything to do with this and you have no idea as to the situation at hand and the arrangments that were made. Your immature comments are not appreciated nor are they appropriate.

M50E30 04-30-2005 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul540/m3
He told you he wanted it 90% in the first phone conversation and then called and confirmed making arrangements to meet up with you and purchase the wheel. I would call that 100%. Even a phone call would have been a courteous gesture as you had a deal already on the table. I don't want to reduce this thread to name calling and immaturity so you can call your wingman off ok.

As for M50E30- i Don't recall you having anything to do with this and you have no idea as to the situation at hand and the arrangments that were made. Your immature comments are not appreciated nor are they appropriate.

Don't bother posting BS stories. I trust Jay than 95% of the members on here. Last time I checked this is an open forum and if you don't like it.......deal with it or don't post.

Paul540/m3 04-30-2005 12:25 AM

How is this a BS story? What happened, happened and whats done is done. I didn't make this thread to have a name calling war, I made it to share with other members my experience when dealing with this particular member. And you are right in saying that this is an open forum so if I so please to post me experience I am free to do so.

bimmer325 04-30-2005 12:33 AM

The way I see it first come first serve...
what happen if paul brother decided he doesn't wanted.
that mean Jay just lost the deal....
buyer is hard to come by.
GIve you an example: the guy told me he will buy my rims. and told me that he is 100% sure... 2 weeks later he call me, and told me that he change his mind..
I could sold the rims to someone else but I gave him my word that the rims is his.. now I still stuck with a set of rims....

By the way Jay thanks for the lower portion dash.... and the other stuff :D
p.s. try not to hit those pilon *th-up*

Antz_Marchin 04-30-2005 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RevShoT
i have been holding my M knob for almost 3 weeks for a guy on max

Hmmm.......I don't like the sounds of this :P ...........Remove the "M" and it's just plain disturbing :eek:

Sorry man....it was just too perfect to pass up.

Gianpaolo_E46 04-30-2005 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RevShoT
and just so you know, i have been holding my knob for almost 3 weeks for a guy on max and have turned down 4 or 5 guys offers while they were at my house to take it off my hands


fixed. lol ur right it sounds funny :D

kontesto 04-30-2005 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmer325
The way I see it first come first serve...
GIve you an example: the guy told me he will buy my rims. and told me that he is 100% sure... 2 weeks later he call me, and told me that he change his mind.. I could sold the rims to someone else but I gave him my word that the rims is his.. now I still stuck with a set of rims....

Just because a buyer changes his mind, does not mean that it's his fault you still have your rims. The fact of the matter is that noone wants your rims and that is not the buyers fault, nor is it yours. If noone besides him wanted it then, noone else will want it now. So don't blaim your problems on a buyer's actions.

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Originally Posted by Paul540/m3
He told you he wanted it 90% in the first phone conversation and then called and confirmed making arrangements to meet up with you and purchase the wheel. I would call that 100%. Even a phone call would have been a courteous gesture as you had a deal already on the table.

Personally, I thnk Jay is just plain stupid in the way he dealt with this deal. First of all, it would have been courteous to let Paul's brother know that there was another deal in progress, thats how I deal with all the people I sell to. If there was an arrangement to come see the wheel, you should have stuck to that. If your other buyer was that interested, he wouldn't have minded waiting a few hours. Imagine if you were the buyer and you said that you would go meet the seller, and then you get there and he's like awww sh*t, I sold it already, sorry I didn't call.

Any business professional will tell you about the importance of customer service and customer retention, both of which you failed with here. I'm not trying to take sides, but you definately did not deal with this properly.

Furthermore, if you were a smart businessman which I now can see that you are not, you would have entertained both offers, and most likely gotten more money out of the deal. If you were so infatuated with the thought and idea of having cash right away, having more cash should have been just as, if not more appealing. Too bad you screwed up.


KM

tlaselva 04-30-2005 02:43 AM

http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/atta...id=51104&stc=1

Can't stop laughing!!! :D :D :D

I've had an experience myself where someone comits to buying something, and after a few excuses, backs out.

My motto is, Money talks, BS walks.....

Eurostyle 04-30-2005 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmer325
The way I see it first come first serve...
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This is the best business practice ever...I have been dealing with customers for about 10 years now, and the amount of people not showing up is just discusting...You cant have a persons word for much (unless you know them very well)...In MANY cases even $$$ deposits dont work...In one case i left a deposit on a car, (about 25%!!!) only to have it sold to a better offer, and i lost the deal...And i also have several cases where people put $$$ down and then never show up to pick up a part!...

The way i see it is; a transaction is not final untill the exchange of product and $$$ takes place, untill then there is ALWAYS a chance of the buyer OR seller backing out of the deal... :(

kontesto 04-30-2005 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Eurostyle
The way i see it is; a transaction is not final untill the exchange of product and $$$ takes place, untill then there is ALWAYS a chance of the buyer OR seller backing out of the deal... :(

But in this case, the transaction couldn't even take place, because the seller didn't let it. How can we have a marketplace in any industry where you can't think about a purchase, and goods go slipping out from underneath your nose even though you've made an agreement to come purchase it.

KM

Eurostyle 04-30-2005 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kontesto
But in this case, the transaction couldn't even take place, because the seller didn't let it. How can we have a marketplace in any industry where you can't think about a purchase, and goods go slipping out from underneath your nose even though you've made an agreement to come purchase it.

KM


OK, try this: call Walmart, or Zellers and ask them to hold a few items for you, because "you are for sure picking them up soon".....Are they going to take your word for it! It is VERY unfortunat but you cant take a persons word for much these days... :(


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