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BMWdouche 11-14-2012 04:29 PM

Bike forums?
 
I'm hoping someone can let me know what the biggest/most useful motorcycle forum to join (preferably local or with a regional section) is.

Going to spend the winter, learning as much as possible before jumping on a 600.

Thanks.

///M-TRD3 11-14-2012 05:29 PM

I'd say gtamotorcycle.com

Good on you for researching first, R series bikes (which I'm assuming you might mean) are no joke - as can be said for all bikes.

That being said, I'll be the first to cast their alliance and say go Ninja, their 636 is really something else when it comes to the 600cc class : )

El Gato Liso 11-14-2012 05:41 PM

i got a 600cc as my first bike....its not as hard as people make it sound lol. just use some brains when you ride, thats all. do not ride outside of your experience, like leaning at 100kmh. take things slow, and you'll be surprised at how not difficult it is to ride a 600cc. and don't even consider 250cc IF you use that as a "learner". Just learn on the damn 600cc.

BMWdouche 11-14-2012 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Gato Liso (Post 1589348)
i got a 600cc as my first bike....its not as hard as people make it sound lol. just use some brains when you ride, thats all. do not ride outside of your experience, like leaning at 100kmh. take things slow, and you'll be surprised at how not difficult it is to ride a 600cc. and don't even consider 250cc IF you use that as a "learner". Just learn on the damn 600cc.

Yeah - I'm currently torn. Part of me wants to start on the Ninja 300.. but am worried that I will outgrow and get bored of it and be a complete waste of time/money. But the other part of me is a little bit intimidated by a 600.

Being a fairly small guy 5"7.. I'm concerned about size/weight the most but from what I read, the 300 is pretty much just as big/heavy as a 600. So taking my time with a 600 might be the way to go.

El Gato Liso 11-14-2012 07:45 PM

The ninja 300 is a nice bike regardless, but there is no way in hell it will be any heavier than a 600cc. I promise you that you will get bored of it quick. As soon as you ride along side a 600cc while you're on your 300cc, the struggle to get to the 600cc speed sucks! So yes, you will outgrow it fast...once you reach the max throttle and such, you will want to move faster, trust me.

I road a my buddy's 250cc the other day and I couldn't take it. The only thing fun about a 250-300cc is you'll be able to throw that shit around! But with time, you'll be surprised that it's very possible to do that with a 600cc. If it makes it better, I am 5'6" and I have no issues riding my 600cc.

Once the 600cc is in motion, it stands on its own and you can maneuver it quite easily. It's just a matter of how much you move off your center of gravity when you're leaning and turning.

Shit, Now I want to ride! Spare yourself and go straight to a 600cc.

ultimateX5 11-14-2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Gato Liso (Post 1589357)
The ninja 300 is a nice bike regardless, but there is no way in hell it will be any heavier than a 600cc. I promise you that you will get bored of it quick. As soon as you ride along side a 600cc while you're on your 300cc, the struggle to get to the 600cc speed sucks! So yes, you will outgrow it fast...once you reach the max throttle and such, you will want to move faster, trust me.

I road a my buddy's 250cc the other day and I couldn't take it. The only thing fun about a 250-300cc is you'll be able to throw that shit around! But with time, you'll be surprised that it's very possible to do that with a 600cc. If it makes it better, I am 5'6" and I have no issues riding my 600cc.

Once the 600cc is in motion, it stands on its own and you can maneuver it quite easily. It's just a matter of how much you move off your center of gravity when you're leaning and turning.

Shit, Now I want to ride! Spare yourself and go straight to a 600cc.

What he said,
you'll get sick of the 300 in no time. If you have basic knowledge of how cars/bikes work, you'll be fine on a 600. Just don't outride yourself, know your limit!

sb_600 11-15-2012 01:19 PM

If you've never ridden anything before, here's my opinion:

-start on a 500 or less (ninja 500/ suzuki gs500 are great starter bikes).
-buy it old enough so that it won't depreciate in the year or two it takes you to learn and become comfortable. When (not if) you drop it, you won't care.
-upgrade to a 600 after that.

I rode dirtbikes all my life then bought a 1995 Honda CBR600F3 when I turned 16. It was an awesome bike but I was pretty tiny back that and I did drop it once or twice, and was rear-ended once - took some getting used to the extra weight from dirtbikes, but not so bad.

I then sold that bike and bought a 2003 Honda CBR600RR - that thing was awesome!

///M_AMAZIN 11-15-2012 05:57 PM

+1 Get the Ninja 300 if you can - Don't start with the 600SS

Its not that you won't be able to ride the 600 right off the bat and do everyday normal commuting - its just that you'll learn more about riding with a lower compression bike and take it to the limits = more fun

And yes, gtamotorcycle.com

El Gato Liso 11-15-2012 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///M_AMAZIN (Post 1589477)
+1 Get the Ninja 300 if you can - Don't start with the 600SS

Its not that you won't be able to ride the 600 right off the bat and do everyday normal commuting- its just that you'll learn more about riding with a lower compression bike and take it to the limits = more fun

And yes, gtamotorcycle.com

i road out to guelph from brampton on back roads as my first ride. I don't know what you're talking about, on top of the countless hours i spent riding around BRAMPTON within the first 2 days of riding my 600cc with 0 bike experience. you learn as you ride, big bike or not

calegrant 11-15-2012 09:17 PM

Stop worrying about displacement for a first bike, the biggest thing which makes a super sport or superbike a poor choice for first timers is riding position. Bigger displacement can be dealt with by using less throttle, you can't overcome poor positioning so easily. They're designed to be ridden at speed in a very unnatural position to optimize aerodynamics, not ideal when you're having a difficult enough time getting through intersections and parking lots.

Getting something with a more natural upright position will be far more beneficial to learning how to ride. Even the difference between a naked with a bar and a sport bike with clip-ons is night and day, see if you can find a shop that has two which are similar and throw a leg over each. South of 100km/h their performance is very similar to a super sport, and you can decide if a sport bike is really something you want.

Nick_V 11-15-2012 11:07 PM

^ Precisely why I'm a big fan of the Honda VFR. My first bike was a '97 VFR750. Looking to get a '98-'01 VFR800 (fuel injected) for next season. It's got the sport bike look and most of the performance, but is way more comfortable for long rides. Not to mention those motors with the gear driven cams have a unique, wicked shriek.

webb70 11-16-2012 03:38 PM

You also might want to check insurance prices....600cc are quite pricy compared to a 125/250/300cc bike.

And besides, whats the rush, smaller bikes can go above the limit if necessary, but isnt the first bike supposed to be about learning how to ride safely, staying out of traffics harm, improving your reflexes and being sure riding is for you ?

Get a used small displacement bike that you can re-sell a year or two later. If /when it tips over, gets bumper or what ever, your not heart broken.....

Ride safe and have fun !!

BMWdouche 11-21-2012 10:25 AM

I just discovered RBC (my ins provider) does not cover new riders..

Any thoughts of where to turn?

Also, what's the best way to learn to ride the bike without actually buying one first? I'm going for the M1 soon. But the next step is just to go out to the Kawasaki showroom and test ride a bike without knowing how?

webb70 11-21-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BMWdouche (Post 1589998)
I just discovered RBC (my ins provider) does not cover new riders..

Any thoughts of where to turn?

Also, what's the best way to learn to ride the bike without actually buying one first? I'm going for the M1 soon. But the next step is just to go out to the Kawasaki showroom and test ride a bike without knowing how?


If you have a friend with a small dirt-bike, take it out in a field and get use to riding, clutch, shifting etc....
I would strongly recommend taking the course at Humber or Sheridan, its only what $300ish.....(you will save at least that much on insurance)
No dealership will let you test ride a bike without an M2 or higher.

BUY GOOD RIDING GEAR!!!!!! (Its your life, don't cheap out)

BMWdouche 11-21-2012 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by webb70 (Post 1589999)
If you have a friend with a small dirt-bike, take it out in a field and get use to riding, clutch, shifting etc....
I would strongly recommend taking the course at Humber or Sheridan, its only what $300ish.....(you will save at least that much on insurance)
No dealership will let you test ride a bike without an M2 or higher.

BUY GOOD RIDING GEAR!!!!!! (Its your life, don't cheap out)

Definitely doing a riding course, but unfortunately do not have any friends with bikes. Won't I need a bike to take the course though?

Basically how the hell do I get a bike with just an M1.. and how do I get an M2 without having a bike?

And yes.. will definitely get good riding gear.


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