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Murchie 07-22-2012 05:51 PM

Porter Cable with Mothers?
So all along i've been using the Simoniz orbital polisher. It gets the car shining but the swirls remain. And thats why i'm going to get a Porter Cable. Now would the Porter work with Mothers products? I have the 3 stage and if it will get the minor scratches/swirls out then that'll be great. If not i'll get the Menzerna or the Wolfgang stuff
. Or do you guys recommend something else?Also what pads do you recommend? The car in question is the one in my sig.

Thanks for your help.

Deep 3.2TL 07-22-2012 06:11 PM

While porter is a better product then simoniz, that's likely not your problem... the pads you are using etc would be the issue.

I'm not expert, but from what I've come to see over the years, that's what you should be focusing on...

Proper clay baring first too to get rid of the surface contaminants is essential too.

Murchie 07-22-2012 06:18 PM

Thanks for the reply. Yeah the pads would make a huge difference. But what i need to know is if the Mothers stuff is capable of removing swirls when using a PC
Or do i have to get a more professional product?

Deep 3.2TL 07-22-2012 06:21 PM

You'll need more of an experts opinion on that.

Murchie 07-22-2012 06:54 PM

Its the 3 stage system. So prewax cleaner, sealer and glaze then finally carnauba wax

doogee 07-23-2012 02:50 AM


Originally Posted by Murchie (Post 1575850)
Its the 3 stage system. So prewax cleaner, sealer and glaze then finally carnauba wax

They're all complete junk.

Murchie 07-23-2012 09:36 AM

:D Thanks for the reply. I read one of your posts where you suggested Menzerna products. Maybe i'll go that route.


toy4to 07-24-2012 01:39 PM

Mothers IS junk. That 3-step stuff is for newbies.

Get yourself the PC, and the appropriate foam pads. Then start looking at prooducts, whether it's from Meguiar's, 3M, Menzerna, etc... The PC and foam pads will work wonders compared to your old Simonize with the white terry cloth pad.

Murchie 07-25-2012 11:55 PM

Lol@terry cloth pad...i know that too well..
I'm heading to St Catharines tomorrow for work on my way back i'll go to eshine. I was told to get Poorboys SSR 2.5 and SSR 2.0..

2.5 with the orange pad and the 2.0 with the white pad. But why should i be using 2 abrasives/compounds? Cant i use the 2.5 and then a sealant followed by a wax?


toy4to 07-26-2012 12:03 AM

Forget the Poorboys stuff. You have a dark colored car...the one in the pic right??

Do this. Get the following from eshine.

Lake Country pads: one 4" CCS orange pad, one 4" CCS white pad. $6.25 each
Lake country flexible backing pad: 5" $18

Menzerna Intensive Polish: PO91E $28 (use this with the orange pad first)
Menzerna Super Intensive Polish: SI1500 $32 (use this with the white pad second)

Have you ever used a PC? You need to crank up the speed on the PC to around 5, and use the foam pads I specified. Don't be afraid to use a little pressure. Using a PC requires some finesse to get rid of swirls. These Menzerna products work best with a rotary polisher, but since you're not at that stage yet, we won't go there. Use the PC and get used to it first.

I've only included 2 steps/layers. If you've never clayed your car before...I suggest washing, followed by claying, and then starting with the Menzerna IP, then followed by SIP. If you have a sealant, then use that, and follow up with a nice layer of wax...your paint will look 100 times better than with the Simoniz terry cloth polisher.

Still have questions? PM me.

SAKE 07-28-2012 06:49 PM

you need some m105...

boredstudent 07-28-2012 09:19 PM

the simonize is a wax spreader, not capable of any correction work.

for polishes, you're better off with Menzerna, Meguiar's, Scholl Concepts.

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