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5style 03-12-2012 06:38 AM

Bill C-11 Passing in 72 hours, SIGN THE PETITION NOW!
 
Not a joke, and there is no reason why anyone should want to support taking away their own rights with bill c-11.

Please sign, use your spam email address, whatever!

https://petition.liberal.ca/user-rig...digital-locks/

NOTORIOUS VR 03-12-2012 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5style (Post 1553206)
Not a joke, and there is no reason why anyone should want to support taking away their own rights with bill c-11.

Please sign, use your spam email address, whatever!

https://petition.liberal.ca/user-rig...digital-locks/

Signed a soon as I got the email... Let's go people... Do yourself and everyone else a favor and sign this stuff

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

5style 03-12-2012 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR (Post 1553215)
Signed a soon as I got the email... Let's go people... Do yourself and everyone else a favor and sign this stuff

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

*th-up*

propr'one 03-12-2012 11:13 AM

I am not signing this, the liberal amendment to this bill doesn't make it any better. The biggest problem with the bill is the pressure it puts on ISP's.

Oh well, guess i can kiss my 14ms ping time goobye and run all my non XBL/voip traffic through VPN.

5style 03-12-2012 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propr'one (Post 1553274)
I am not signing this, the liberal amendment to this bill doesn't make it any better. The biggest problem with the bill is the pressure it puts on ISP's.

Oh well, guess i can kiss my 14ms ping time goobye and run all my non XBL/voip traffic through VPN.

Its better then having bill c-11 get past through the approval process.

propr'one 03-12-2012 11:49 AM

that petition is FOR c-11, just with the liberal amendment.

5style 03-12-2012 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propr'one (Post 1553288)
that petition is FOR c-11, just with the liberal amendment.

The way I understood it, and I follow this closely, Is that its not for bill c-11, its a liberal amendment against bill c-11

propr'one 03-12-2012 12:08 PM

I am stretching here a bit but if you are against the whole bill i probably wouldn't sign it, as it gives the wrong impression, since by supporting the liberal amendment you are actually supporting the bill (provided it is amended before it sees a vote).

Canada has been too cool with the internets for too long. I couldn't believe when net neutrality got status.

For those that dont know, "net neutrality" means it is ILLEGAL for your ISP to block OR THROTTLE any connection/traffic in any way at all.

5style 03-12-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propr'one (Post 1553296)
I am stretching here a bit but if you are against the whole bill i probably wouldn't sign it, as it gives the wrong impression, since by supporting the liberal amendment you are actually supporting the bill (provided it is amended before it sees a vote).

Canada has been too cool with the internets for too long. I couldn't believe when net neutrality got status.

For those that dont know, "net neutrality" means it is ILLEGAL for your ISP to block OR THROTTLE any connection/traffic in any way at all.

Yes, I agree with you there, however, have to do something, since this bill targets everything, not just our internets. Then again, maybe we should all just get off our computers lol.

My biggest concern with this bill is a pathway to internet censorship and i think the biggest thing the internet has done for the world was to open up eyes towards so many heated world issues from both sides of the spectrum, for and against.

That, and free porn. jk

bmdbley'sBro 03-14-2012 06:05 PM

Bill C-10 passed in Canada! I'm going to Jail & so are you!

vid lays out the details on how this combined with C-11 & C-30,
while pulling $15billion away from social programs to go into jails
- will have everyone locked up for something, anything.


sirex 03-14-2012 09:37 PM

so is it going to pass and should I get a VPN?

propr'one 03-15-2012 12:18 AM

If all you are doing is downloading music / movies, i probably wouldn't worry about it. If you are uploading anything then yes. Torrents generally count as uploading.


Almost everyone steals intellectual property online. If you dont, you're likely not in my generation.

bmdbley'sBro 03-15-2012 07:44 PM

Quote:

poll: 77% of Canadians are severly distrustful of our dishonest politicians

Politicians can't be trusted: Canadian poll

14/03/2012 8:30:00 AM
by Nevil Hunt

A survey of Canadians has found we have little respect for the people we elect and that we consider them incompetent and dishonest.

With each new story about election cheating, corruption and incompetence, we lose even more faith in our politicians.

Our respect for our elected representatives is so low, it's hard to see any chance of politicians ever being able to reclaim an ounce of dignity..


A study by the Manning Centre found just one per cent of us have a "very favourable" view of politicians in this country. A full 77 per cent of us hold a "somewhat unfavourable" opinion.

The right-wing think tank surveyed more than 2,000 Canadians of different political stripes to come up with the startling numbers.

Sure, we hope our candidates will be honest, open and credible, but our expectations have been dashed so often we think of politicians as both unable to do their job, or crooked.

The words used to describe elected officials include "lazy," out of touch," "unprincipled" and "dishonest." And you thought lawyers were the most hated members of society.

With Canadians staying away from the ballot box in ever greater numbers, you don't have to look far for the reason. Promises get delivered and promises get broken. Worse still, it seems like the people we elect become incapable of doing the right thing.

Every sex scandal, expenses account weaseling and outright lie just makes us all a little more jaded.

We've all heard people say there's no point in voting because they're all the same. Even if there is a difference between candidates and parties, the continual flow of bad news about office holders makes them seem like a single mass of dumb and dumber.

Once in a while, a politician does manage to rise above the fray and connect with people. Love him or hate him, Pierre Trudeau got people enthusiastic about Canadian politics. We haven't seen anyone like him since he was prime minister, which indicates just how rarely great people rise to high office.

In the United States, Barack Obama got a lot of people on the same page in 2008 with a populist message.

And there are parallels between Trudeau and Obama that go beyond Trudeaumania or Obamamania. Both men have reputations beyond reproach. No one has ever suggested either man's actions in office were made for personal gain.

Preston Manning is another politician who whether you like his politics or not has always appeared to be above board. As CEO of the Manning Centre, he addressed the topic of trustworthiness earlier this week.

"... if the aim is corruption-free, ethical politics there is still no substitute for rock-solid personal integrity," Manning said, adding that ethics should be taught in political science classes and within political party training schools.

The reputation of politicians may not be salvageable. The numbers say it's a lost cause to try and change our opinion.

The only real hope may be that rare man or woman who not only manages to make us believe they are respectable, but proves it.

Is there a politician in this country who deserves respect? Would you encourage or discourage a child from entering politics?

http://news.sympatico.ca/oped/coffee..._poll/7ad94e1e
*th-up*

5style 03-16-2012 11:18 AM

great, welcome to socialist mongering media feeding canada. I might as well cancel my internet at this point, since this is more then copyright, this is their way of being able to censor sensitive information. Freedom of speech, gone.

bmdbley'sBro 04-01-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5style (Post 1554203)
great, welcome to socialist mongering media feeding canada. I might as well cancel my internet at this point, since this is more then copyright, this is their way of being able to censor sensitive information. Freedom of speech, gone.

check this out:

ACTA in UK: 10 years in jail for a download?



^ our future?


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