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BMe30 01-16-2012 10:04 PM

traction issues with winters in this weather
 
Has anyone else having tracktion issues with their winters with these mild temps and wet roads?

I feel like i should have gotten all seasons.

Or could it be that the car is pretty low didnt do a camber adjustment and have an lsd diff

blk3 01-16-2012 10:09 PM

no issues here, oh and the cheapest snow tires will be better than the best all seasons. just saying. plus who doesnt like to pitch it sideways now and again?

BMe30 01-16-2012 10:40 PM

These snows are new this year. I had the same brand a few years back and no issues. I was thinking it was the moderate temps that was causing the issues. I'm at a loss....

Btw... Me Kicking it out isnt the issue... The issue is it kicks out or understeers off throttle.

dble Trouble 01-16-2012 11:50 PM

There's something wrong here Bruno. If you're having problems, either you put the directional tires on backwards or as you mentioned camber issues, or loose ball joints/tie rods etc. My e30 tracked like a toe missile in any winter weather. LSD can only be a help to get you going, and keeps oversteer very predictable.

Eurostyle 01-17-2012 12:24 AM

How old and what brand are the tires? Old/cheap ones wont be any better then good all seasons...

desmo 01-17-2012 12:37 AM

This winter I switched to new winter tires from half worn Yokohama all seasons. I can say even in the dry cold days, rain, or slush, the winters are many times better. I especially impressed in the difference in the wet, where I have more experience comparing grip between the two tires....It's much harder to brake the winters loose, but I can feel the softer winter tires roll a lot more in harder turns.

BMe30 01-17-2012 07:22 AM

They are nitto sn2 winters. They are brand new. I had the same tire and size 4 years ago and the car was perfect... Mind you it was still stovk then. Last winter i had used dried winters and they were ok and the car was lowered. Only changes was thr gc coilovers. The rear is lower. Maybe the springs are too stiff for these conditions?

Bullet Ride 01-17-2012 01:18 PM

I can't really say that I'm having any problems with mine Bruno and I have stiffffff springs.

BMe30 01-17-2012 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullet Ride (Post 1544333)
I can't really say that I'm having any problems with mine Bruno and I have stiffffff springs.

What tire size are you running on your winters?
Did you adjust your camber?

BMe30 01-17-2012 01:45 PM

Im going to try to play with the tire psi see if it helps any

Bullet Ride 01-17-2012 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMe30 (Post 1544340)
What tire size are you running on your winters?
Did you adjust your camber?

195/70R14
My front camber is somewhere between -2.0 to -2.2 with 0 toe.
No provision for rear camber adjustment, not yet anyway.

325isdan 01-17-2012 04:17 PM

Not to sound like a jerk, but what are your driving habbits? Understeer when letting off the throttle?? How fast are you going and how sharp are these turns?

E30M42cab 01-17-2012 06:16 PM

^^Bruno goes all out, all the time. His tires are so cambered in that they're half slick, half grip. He doesn't even use his brakes, he just downshifts into first. He runs 235's in the summer, and 175's in the winter. He runs his coils on full low, all the time. He runs an "is" lip in the winter. He has heated seats but never uses them.

Lets face it, its the M42 power that your tires just can't handle.

Deetow 01-17-2012 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E30M42cab (Post 1544374)

Lets face it, its the M42 power that your tires just can't handle.

That's the only possible explanation *rockout*

noodles101 01-17-2012 06:58 PM

could the mild temp and 'wet conditon' be... maybe patches of ice?

its not so much black ice, but semi frozen ground kinda makes the pavement semi shine.


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