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dbworld4k 09-01-2011 11:44 AM

BMW recalling E46 3 Series models over faulty tail lights
 
http://ca.autoblog.com/2011/09/01/bm...y-tail-lights/

Vehicle Make / Model:

Model Year(s):
BMW / 325I

2002-2005
BMW / 325XI

2002-2005
BMW / 330I

2002-2005
BMW / 330XI

2002-2005

Manufacturer: BMW OF NORTH AMERICA, LLC
Mfr's Report Date: AUG 25, 2011

NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 11V438000
NHTSA Action Number: 2 Investigations found (View)

Component:
EXTERIOR LIGHTING:TAIL LIGHTS

Potential Number of Units Affected:
241,000

Summary:
BMW IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2002-2005 325I, 325XI, 330I, AND 330XI VEHICLES MANUFACTURED FROM SEPTEMBER 1, 2001, THROUGH MARCH 1, 2005. OVER TIME, RESISTANCE IN THE ELECTRICAL CONTACTS MAY CAUSE ONE OR MORE REAR LAMP FUNCTIONS (TAIL LIGHT, BRAKE LIGHT, AND/OR TURN-SIGNAL), WITHIN THE VEHICLE'S BODY PANEL, TO STOP WORKING.

Consequence:
INTERMITTENT LIGHT OPERATION REDUCES THE ABILITY TO WARN OTHER MOTORISTS OF THE DRIVER'S INTENTIONS. THIS COULD CAUSE A VEHICLE CRASH WITHOUT WARNING.

Remedy:
BMW WILL NOTIFY OWNERS, AND DEALERS WILL REPAIR THE VEHICLES FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING OCTOBER 2011. OWNERS MAY CONTACT BMW CUSTOMER RELATIONS AND SERVICES AT 1-800-525-7417.

Notes:
OWNERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV .

Ahctuning 09-01-2011 12:34 PM

If that's an issue with the oem tails what about the ones who have upgraded to led tails? can anyone tell from the short problem description of whether the issue is in the factory connectors or oem lamp assembly???

BimmerGuys 09-01-2011 07:18 PM

Tail light assembly failure caused by overheating of the electrical pin, as fas as i know.

Ceeker 09-01-2011 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahctuning (Post 1521223)
If that's an issue with the oem tails what about the ones who have upgraded to led tails? can anyone tell from the short problem description of whether the issue is in the factory connectors or oem lamp assembly???

Very common problem with e46; my buddy did a tonne of these when they were rampant. Apparently it is the circuitry in the tail light panel that shorts and the bulbs stop working properly. new backing is required and also a repair.
It has an over heating issue.

gnome 09-01-2011 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceeker (Post 1521323)
Very common problem with e46; my buddy did a tonne of these when they were rampant. Apparently it is the circuitry in the tail light panel that shorts and the bulbs stop working properly. new backing is required and also a repair.
It has an over heating issue.

My E46 front corners melted last summer, had to replace with new sockets and lense assembly. Sounds similar but my issue was front corner only so far.

Dissembler 09-02-2011 12:08 AM

this happened to my 330i 2 years ago. Had to replace both tail light boards, they were around $200 a piece or something, don't remember the exact cost.

damameke 09-02-2011 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dissembler (Post 1521363)
this happened to my 330i 2 years ago. Had to replace both tail light boards, they were around $200 a piece or something, don't remember the exact cost.

If you still have the receipt, you can try claiming it from BMW...
I have this intermittent issue, so its good that BMW is doing
the recall on this issue.. i wonder what prompted this for its a known issue from E46 owners.....

thanks dbworld4k for posting this...

crxgsr 09-02-2011 05:38 PM

I thought there was also a previous TSB, in which the tails weren't grounding properly, and a "fix" available. (basically adding a thicker negative ground wire).

Edit: nevermind, I see they mention this in the article:
"Previously, BMW issued a technical service bulletin concerning a certain eight-pin connector which would overheat and melt under extreme electrical load. BMW dealers corrected the issue by adding additional grounding to the circuit. It's unclear whether this remedy will also be applied to the recall."

noodles101 09-02-2011 05:53 PM

what about E36s~!!! :( ... same problem with E36s as well

Ceeker 09-02-2011 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodles101 (Post 1521510)
what about E36s~!!! :( ... same problem with E36s as well

u can try and state a claim but I highly doubt it. if it ain't in the nationwide agenda you're sol. sorry..Perhaps the very late model years had this but not enough to generate a recall. I'm sure if BMW could get away with not having this they would. But due to MTO/DMV they would get roasted with heavy fines due to the nature. Someone obviously blew the lid off this case in order to generate such publicity. they also don't need the negative press. BMW is not keen on recalls unless someone has blown the whistle. There is usually lengthy investigation before the come out with such an announcement. I know when I worked for a dealer the e46 M3 cars were having knocking engines at 10-20k. At first they thought it was neglect so the customers engine would sit in the bay of the shop for weeks. Finally new motors arrived for a few customers and the old engines were recrated and sent back to head office for inspection. After this they found out it was a faulty oil delivery system and made a batch of new oil pumps and called everyone back in with their M3's to get them changed before they had to swallow engine replacements. Cheaper to change pumps then replace engine. so it saved them tonnes of money.

busamoose 09-02-2011 06:53 PM

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls...intVersion=YES


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...nction-2-.html


http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/do...romPublic=true


*th-up*

Ceeker 09-02-2011 07:04 PM

the first two links are not working. :-)

damameke 03-22-2012 09:30 AM

I received this recall notice late Nov 2011 and car is in Maranello today,
according to SA, they will replace the wiring especially the gounding cable...

propr'one 03-22-2012 11:50 AM

This happens on e36's too. I cleaned out the electrical contacts (sandpaper), this solved my problem.

Blackedout95 03-22-2012 10:01 PM

The real sad part is they included these models for rear tails and not the front HID light cars that have the same issues as ones they covered. Guess that would cost too much!

When you have an HID issue it is either an expensive bulb or ignitor/control module...sucks.


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