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doogee 05-17-2010 11:54 PM

Doogee Dakar M3 Track Build
 
Alright.

No one has really done this on max before and I see too many on bimmerforums so I want to "contribute"?

I've been going to the track for 2 years, and all these upgrades to my car are just getting ridiculously uncomfortable. I'm also not a fan of taking my DD to Mosport GP. I really want to get into racing as well in the future. So this was a good time to start building a car..."for the future"

So I set out to build the track car. I grabbed a 100% clean 97 Dakar M3 from Euroguy (Tom). He had begun to part it out, so I stopped him :P

I decided to go all out and do this properly so when the time comes to actually start competing with the car, I don't want to be messing around too much.

So I'm going to start taking photos of my progress and kind of explain why I'm doing what I'm doing.

My short list of mods so far includes:

S52 /w Schrick Cams
OBDI Conversion
Rebuild the head
Headers
Solid Diff mounts
90A Powerflex Subframe Mounts
Bimmerworld solid engine and tranny mounts
Alluminum Rad
95 M3 or Z3 Steering Rack
(Hopefully) Bimmerworld intake
Bimmerworld Adjustable Rear Control Arms
UUC Swaybarbarians will most likely come off the DD
Wheel Studs
6 Point Cage
Fan Delete with SPAL
AKG Shifter
TcKline delrin RTABs
Bimmerworld Delrin FCABs
XBrace


Coilovers are undecided. All depends on budget. JRZ RS's would be nice but more than likely out of the picture. I always have my TCKlines from my other E36.


The list will build, this is everything I can pull out of my head at 12:00. Luckily I have some time to build this thing. Going to be buying part by part. I wish I were rich so I could buy everything :) Who wants to donate :P

Definitely a special thanks to Euroguy (Tom). He's really helped me out with all the parts I need.

doogee 05-18-2010 12:11 AM

The start
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7889730_n.jpg

TcKline Rtabs installed
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._3332735_n.jpg

ByeBye subframe bushings!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2695607_n.jpg

Getting there...
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._6633682_n.jpg

Removing the sound deadening tar is the worst.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7461253_n.jpg

I removed the heater core and made this plate to cover the hole. It's a cutout e36 door with weatherstripping around it bolted in :P
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...7_623106_n.jpg

Who likes wiring?
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...8_919836_n.jpg

The wheels:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/...1b68b0cb06.jpg

The headers:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/...5b8256e9_b.jpg

craz azn 05-18-2010 12:16 AM

Whats the AKG shifter look like? Don't get that crap that comes with the base that bolts to the car's body.

doogee 05-18-2010 12:17 AM

Made a nice plate for all my toggle switches and gauges
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/...4a136529_b.jpg

Still working on wiring. Still lots of tar to remove as well
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/...dc92d231_b.jpg

Regulars and wiring removed. The windows will stay on the rails. But I will use L-brackets bolted to the window so I can easily pull them out or leave them in with a good seal.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3358/...f51f601c_b.jpg

Progress today:

I painted the bumpers and sideskirts. Tom had sold them so I got some cracked ones from him, fixed them up and painted. For a rattle can job, I shocked myself of the quality.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3393/...6e5053d5_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/...436a5b4a_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/...2cc66a37_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/...6679aeb7_b.jpg

doogee 05-18-2010 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craz azn (Post 1420864)
Whats the AKG shifter look like? Don't get that crap that comes with the base that bolts to the car's body.

I heard the hardware that comes with it is complete crap. So you need to buy some heavy duty stuff from homedepot etc.

What would you recommend? I'd like something tall, does't have to be too short in throw, I like to know what gear I'm going into haha.

http://www.akgmotorsport.com/catalog/images/QS36lg.jpg

doogee 05-18-2010 12:21 AM

As you can see the paint matched very well!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._6435487_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2269490_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1661854_n.jpg

craz azn 05-18-2010 12:23 AM

Good paint match!

The problem is, with a base mounted to the body, and a driveline that still can move (aka not solid bushings) it will twist and tweak around a bit, leading to a shifter that changes feel, and possibly lead to some botched (money)shifts.

Edit. Gah, just reread your mod list. You say solid motor and trans mounts? How can you mount it solid if the engine has knock sensors? It's gonna register every nook and cranny of vibration and pull the timing right out...

EuroSpec_92 05-18-2010 12:28 AM

very good ;P

doogee 05-18-2010 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craz azn (Post 1420873)
You say solid motor and trans mounts? How can you mount it solid if the engine has knock sensors? It's gonna register every nook and cranny of vibration and pull the timing right out...

I haven't heard of too many people having this issue. But I can't say it won't happen. I'll have to do more research. Might go with poly.

Although, you sure know your stuff. Will this happen for sure?

exbmwtech 05-18-2010 12:32 AM

Looks good

craz azn 05-18-2010 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doogee (Post 1420884)
I haven't heard of too many people having this issue. But I can't say it won't happen. I'll have to do more research. Might go with poly.

Although, you sure know your stuff. Will this happen for sure?

Dunno if it will man. Our E36 has stock M3 mounts. Could be that maybe the stock system isn't as sensitive or something? Maybe MarkD could chime in on this.

I remember this one test day that we took a car to at Mosport, hooked up a standalone knock sensor system and mounted the gauge in the car to monitor what was going on. Because it had solid mounts, it would register that the car was knocking even OFF throttle. At first we thought the system was bad, or maybe the sensor shit the bed, but we hooked it up to my car, and it worked fine! *shrugs*

doogee 05-18-2010 12:39 AM

Interesting. My list isn't set quite yet because of running into issues like this. Glad I have a few people here to fill me in.

I'll do more research about it for sure.

Polys or stock might not be a bad idea. Would avoid a lot of metal fatigue.

exbmwtech 05-18-2010 12:52 AM

A friend of mine uses solid mounts on his e-36 race car and has had no issues with knock sensors.....I'll ask him this weekend.
Make sure to reinforce your front cross member around the motor mount area....they are prone to crack.

EuroSpec_92 05-18-2010 12:54 AM

I could have sworn bmw designed the engine to twist to a certain degree, imean isnt there also a bushing on the X-brace to allow the engine to lean against the brace when under extreme torque?

doogee 05-18-2010 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EuroSpec_92 (Post 1420902)
I could have sworn bmw designed the engine to twist to a certain degree, imean isnt there also a bushing on the X-brace to allow the engine to lean against the brace when under extreme torque?

For the most part this is all to increase driver comfort. Solid mounts on a street car would be hell.

Stiffening everything up leads to crisper shifting and no play in power delivery or the suspension.

Really puts the power to the ground where it belongs :P Did I mention they don't wear out? :P


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