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MPackage 02-11-2010 08:08 AM

335i with/without Navigation?
 
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Ok here is my dilemma I need to know something is Navigation on a 335i really that important? Can it also play DVD movies on it? Is it really useful? I am looking at two 335i (2007) and (2008) one with Navigation and the other without. Note that both are in excellent conditions but I can not decide if I should pay the extra buck for the Navigation that comes with the 335i. Please let me know the Pro’s and Con’s of having a Navigation.

Thanks

Gamite 02-11-2010 09:45 AM

If it's something you're going to keep, then I'd go for navigation, it's not something you can easily swap in should you change your mind later.

MPackage 02-11-2010 10:02 AM

I am planning to keep the car but does the Navigation get used alot in terms of daily driver, is it there just for show or is it used alot? I was talking to a friend of mine he stated how the Navigation on the BMW is not that great or user friendly...

ChrisTO 02-11-2010 10:23 AM

I'm not sure if these models have the newer updated iDrive(ie. hard drive based as opposed to DVD)...if it does I would get it! The navigation is very very slick in the latest generation. 3D view of downtown - not just a horizon view but you see the actual buildings. you can also send it info. from Google maps as part of the BMW assist (or whatever they call it) service. so no need to 'type' in the info. in the car. do you it ahead of time and send it to the car.

I'm not sure if it's anything like in the 5er but iDrive controls so much of the car. In the 5er iDrive controls pretty much everything. so by having the iDrive in the 3er do you get added functionality that you wouldn't have access to without iDrive? I would check that out. Maybe there are additional capabilities beyond navi?

I have the earlier version of the Navi (DVD based) and yes it does suck compared to Acura. I would say Acura/Honda probably has the best navi system on the market(made by Pioneer I think?). But having said that I would not get another car without it. Could I live without it? Sure, but would I give it up now....no way.

It's almost like AC...sure you could wind down the windows for those really hot days...sure you can flip open a map...but for those days when you need it...it's great to have!

Having said all that...the portable units does allow for frequent updates and in some cases at no charge. BMW will charge for map updates. I hate the look of those portable units stuck on the windshield...you are driving a premium brand car...don't make it look ghetto. might as well put some stickers on it for added HP. :)

MPackage 02-11-2010 10:28 AM

It is very tempting to get a 335i with Navigation, but there is a huge price gap between the one with and without. I seen it briefy used by the dealership and he couldn't figure it out lol...Does anyone here have the Navi if so I would like to hear your reviews as well as ChrisTO and Gamite...

Gamite 02-11-2010 10:30 AM

I suppose it depends on your sense of direction. For people how are constantly needing to go to new places, it's helpful, but if you have a good sense of direction and are usually going to places that you're used to going to, then navi is kinda useless. I hardly use my navi except for when there's traffic and I need to find an alternate route.

ChrisTO 02-11-2010 10:37 AM

if the picture above is the actual car...it's DVD based. so some of those neato features are not there.

aside from navi I would find out if there are additional functions/capabilities that you get by having Navi with the car? those additional features may help you justify the added cost.

looks like i edited my post as you posted yours. take a read through it again.

i found the idrive system not that hard to use...not sure why people complain about it so much. if you have any concept of using a PC you should be fine.

the navigation part is lacking some capability but only because i'm benchmarking it against the acura one. my wife doesn't let me down that an acura has a better navi system than BMW. :) so my review will be more critical as i'm tainted by acura. hard to say what i would think of the system not having known about acura system.

what's the price delta? looks like used models so i would negotiate hard to get it - assuming the rest of the car is options similarly and in similar condition. though the years seem to be different. I don't think navi should be a big part of the price delta...this is used afterall so you are not paying full retail price for the option. if anything it just makes the car easier to sell for them and they can ask probably a few hundred more for it since it's more desirable.

ChrisTO 02-11-2010 10:43 AM

agreed...and this could be said of the dash mounted ones as well.

so similar to my AC analogy. great when you need it.

i wouldn't pay a thousand extra for it. if it's a hundred or so i'd go for it. it's like buying a portable unit but without having to clutter your dashboard.

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Originally Posted by Gamite (Post 1389739)
I suppose it depends on your sense of direction. For people how are constantly needing to go to new places, it's helpful, but if you have a good sense of direction and are usually going to places that you're used to going to, then navi is kinda useless. I hardly use my navi except for when there's traffic and I need to find an alternate route.


chenx15 02-11-2010 11:21 AM

you really don't need the navi. BMW just advertised 765 garmin as a new dashboard GPS and it's worth 2000 dollars if you buy it from them but it's only 225 in costco

dbworld4k 02-11-2010 11:44 AM

It's a nifty thing to have. Not necessary by any means, but I'd rather have it than not if possible. I like how everything can be controlled via the iDrive and displayed fully on screen, especially with the phone or iPod connected. Makes browsing through the phonebook or playlists a total breeze. If the two cars are identical otherwise (ie. options/specs), I'd opt for the one with navi than the one without for a grand or two more. Then again, I like having some techy crap in my car lol.

What's the price difference between the two cars?

MPackage 02-11-2010 04:00 PM

Hey dbworld4k,

Yea its a tough choice but when it comes to price thats when I would say Navi your good but not good enough for my bank account lol

335i 2008 the dealer is asking $38,900
335i 2007 the dealer is asking $33,800

Thats a whopping $5,100 difference to pay for an extra feature both have the same KM's on it...

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Originally Posted by dbworld4k (Post 1389758)
It's a nifty thing to have. Not necessary by any means, but I'd rather have it than not if possible. I like how everything can be controlled via the iDrive and displayed fully on screen, especially with the phone or iPod connected. Makes browsing through the phonebook or playlists a total breeze. If the two cars are identical otherwise (ie. options/specs), I'd opt for the one with navi than the one without for a grand or two more. Then again, I like having some techy crap in my car lol.

What's the price difference between the two cars?


MPackage 02-11-2010 04:03 PM

Hey ChrisTO,

The dealer is asking way too much for just the Navi feature...like I posted before thats a $5,000 different and I dont think it is a feature I am dying to have but if I do have that extra money what the heck I might go for it lol...
but wow just for Navi...hmmm


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Originally Posted by ChrisTO (Post 1389742)
if the picture above is the actual car...it's DVD based. so some of those neato features are not there.

aside from navi I would find out if there are additional functions/capabilities that you get by having Navi with the car? those additional features may help you justify the added cost.

looks like i edited my post as you posted yours. take a read through it again.

i found the idrive system not that hard to use...not sure why people complain about it so much. if you have any concept of using a PC you should be fine.

the navigation part is lacking some capability but only because i'm benchmarking it against the acura one. my wife doesn't let me down that an acura has a better navi system than BMW. :) so my review will be more critical as i'm tainted by acura. hard to say what i would think of the system not having known about acura system.

what's the price delta? looks like used models so i would negotiate hard to get it - assuming the rest of the car is options similarly and in similar condition. though the years seem to be different. I don't think navi should be a big part of the price delta...this is used afterall so you are not paying full retail price for the option. if anything it just makes the car easier to sell for them and they can ask probably a few hundred more for it since it's more desirable.


dbworld4k 02-11-2010 05:47 PM

That's a big difference in price, but also the Navi equipped car is one year newer. I'd say the extra yr of warranty + navigation would be *almost* worth an additional couple thousand. Knock that price down to 36.5-37 and pull the trigger!

bimmerjoe 02-11-2010 06:42 PM

i can say one thing,
when it does come time for resale the nav helps a ton

ChrisTO 02-11-2010 09:55 PM

the model year of the car is the main reason for the price delta...not the navi. sure the navi adds to it..but it's not the bulk of the price delta. as others have said you get extra year of factory warranty. unless the mileage is crazy high...year of the car will have bigger price influence. i wouldn't be basing the price on the navi but rather on the conditions of the cars and the fact that you get 1 extra year of peace of mind.

what is that extra year worth in your mind? Did they do any other changes between MY 07 and 08?

realistically i would say navi option adds probably 400-600 more on a used car. you figure factory option it's 1000? does it enable BT? I think on some models you needed navi for BT...maybe it changed with later year models.


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