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tlinkletter 04-28-2009 08:49 PM

E39 Suspension?
 
What would be the best upgrade for an e39 528i. There are quite a few combos out there. I just want to stiffen it up and lower it a bit. Nothing too serious. It's a driver not a track car. Bilstein with H&R sport prob the best? or are Eibach's good too. I see a lot of Votland springs comboed up with Gabriel and Bilstein on ebay but all the rest seem to drop less in the rear end but Votlands are the same all around. Any reason for that or are Votlands crap?

TheMadChigga 04-28-2009 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tlinkletter (Post 1295499)
What would be the best upgrade for an e39 528i. There are quite a few combos out there. I just want to stiffen it up and lower it a bit. Nothing too serious. It's a driver not a track car. Bilstein with H&R sport prob the best? or are Eibach's good too. I see a lot of Votland springs comboed up with Gabriel and Bilstein on ebay but all the rest seem to drop less in the rear end but Votlands are the same all around. Any reason for that or are Votlands crap?

Vogtland is not bad actually, most suspension companies are the same, they all get their springs from supplier with their own spec, but from my experience, H&R rides real good with big wheels, and Koni is lot more better than Bilstein.

tlinkletter 04-28-2009 09:03 PM

Really? I always thought Bilstein was the best. I'm looking at going with 19" so not too crazy a wheel size but big enough.

TheMadChigga 04-28-2009 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tlinkletter (Post 1295507)
Really? I always thought Bilstein was the best. I'm looking at going with 19" so not too crazy a wheel size but big enough.

Bilstein shocks can be harsh and bouncy, they do make kick ass coilover systems.

myndgone 04-28-2009 10:18 PM

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I have H&R sports with OEM sport shocks on 18's, nice drop and the ride is just like with OEM sport springs, no complaints whatsoever...

Here's couple of pics that may help you decide :cool:

Steve@ASPTuning 04-28-2009 10:23 PM

We can provide you with financing on our coilover systems if you wish.

We carry:
Blistein
Ruff
H&R
Koni

Thanks,
Steven
ASPTuning

Qube 04-29-2009 12:23 AM

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That's low...

I've got H&R Sports on OE... and it's a heavier 540...
Chose the H&R Sports as I wanted to eliminate most of the gap, but not get slammed look or rough feel.

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EDIT: nevermind, it's not as far off as I thought, though yours does seem a hair lower...

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e39m_dream 04-29-2009 10:01 AM

I have the original M suspension II springs on my 530i, for 114k km.

Do I really need to change springs when changing stock shocks to Koni Sports?

At least I found the spring rates between OEM sport and H&R are the same:

Stock 105 0 335 0
OE Sport 200 +/- .5 380 +/- .5
H&R Sport 200 -1.5 380 - .75 to -1
Race - DTM Setup 345 -2 515 -1.25
H&R Coilover 340 -75 to -2 380 - .75 to -1
Autocross 500 -2 700 -2

I wonder if I go with H&R sport, the car will be lowered. Isn't this going to change to suspension geometry?

tlinkletter 04-29-2009 06:56 PM

I'm running an early edition 97 528i with original shocks. Not even the sport ones. Thinkin it would be cheaper to go with a full coil over then try and buy OE sports to wrap a good lowering spring around. Maybe Koni's be a good option. Seen that Bav auto offers a coil over for pretty cheap. Anyone know what manufacturer build that setup?

bimmerjoe 04-29-2009 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Qube (Post 1295602)
That's low...

I've got H&R Sports on OE... and it's a heavier 540...
Chose the H&R Sports as I wanted to eliminate most of the gap, but not get slammed look or rough feel.

.

EDIT: nevermind, it's not as far off as I thought, though yours does seem a hair lower...

.



JASON i have the same damn rims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are they axxis?

Paul540/m3 04-30-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tlinkletter (Post 1295919)
I'm running an early edition 97 528i with original shocks. Not even the sport ones. Thinkin it would be cheaper to go with a full coil over then try and buy OE sports to wrap a good lowering spring around. Maybe Koni's be a good option. Seen that Bav auto offers a coil over for pretty cheap. Anyone know what manufacturer build that setup?


I have a set of OE sport shocks if you interested. Thye have approx 40K on them. They were taken out an replaced with coilovers.

TheMadChigga 04-30-2009 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tlinkletter (Post 1295919)
I'm running an early edition 97 528i with original shocks. Not even the sport ones. Thinkin it would be cheaper to go with a full coil over then try and buy OE sports to wrap a good lowering spring around. Maybe Koni's be a good option. Seen that Bav auto offers a coil over for pretty cheap. Anyone know what manufacturer build that setup?

could be anyone, now days, most companies don't build jack that they sell, even KW don't make everything that they sell, if you want everything in one stuff, get BC suspension, quality is better than Tein.

If you want to play around, go my route, I got GC with Koni yellows, you can get Yellows for about $600 + the GC, I came up to $1k and I can do this and still go to track days!

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k6...z/DSC00173.jpg

tlinkletter 05-11-2009 11:19 PM

So I think I've narrowed it down to either RUF Intermediate's from ASP, The Bav Auto set or NEX from ebay? Any knowledge of any of those sets?

TheMadChigga 05-12-2009 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tlinkletter (Post 1300977)
So I think I've narrowed it down to either RUF Intermediate's from ASP, The Bav Auto set or NEX from ebay? Any knowledge of any of those sets?

Ruff has been around for a long time, they made a lot of bushings, camber plates etc, they are from Taiwan and have been supplying other larger companies, their factory is ISO9001 approved, they are good company and people.

Nex is also a company from Taiwan, but they are not as specific as Ruff, I don't think they actually make the stuff themselves.

out of the two, I'd definitely go with Ruff.

Oyster 05-23-2009 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve@ASPTuning (Post 1295545)
We can provide you with financing on our coilover systems if you wish.

We carry:
Blistein
Ruff
H&R
Koni

Thanks,
Steven
ASPTuning

how much is shipping for the basic ruff coil over for e39 540 2000?

to toronto?

Thanks


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