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Auto-links 09-02-2012 09:18 PM

I`m back!!!!!!!
 
So,

After being without BMW for approximately 1 year (terrifying experience), I have returned with my new to me e39 m5.

It has replaced my e39 540i which I had for 3 years (exact same car I replaced with jet black with M package before).


I`m home!!!!!!

parm 09-02-2012 09:43 PM

Welcome back ! Congratulations on the e39 M5, I had mine for about 6 years now and I love it as the first day I got it. Details on yours ? *th-up*

Auto-links 09-04-2012 04:06 AM

Jet black on black, titanium trim.
75K miles
Very good condition except the front end has normal road rash. Will need some re paint on the front.
Rims and euro headlights in the mail.
:)

OVERKILL 10-12-2012 10:55 AM

Congrats!

Auto-links 10-12-2012 03:53 PM

Thanks!

Whats your location overkill
Have seen a couple Silver and black e39 m5's in the east end here.

OVERKILL 10-12-2012 04:12 PM

Mine is LeMans blue. I'm in Peterborough.

bmwm5lover 10-12-2012 04:28 PM

M5 reunion!
I've got two, too many.

Auto-links 10-12-2012 10:32 PM

wicked!
Glad to see some activity up here.
Is there many m5 owners in Tdot?

bmwm5lover 10-13-2012 05:19 PM

The other day a guy in a silver 01-03 had parked next to me and started chatting with me. They are there, but not many are hardcore enthusiasts.

Big Chin 10-13-2012 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmwm5lover (Post 1585627)
M5 reunion!
I've got two, too many.

You can give one to me if you feel inclined :P

marek 10-14-2012 10:28 AM

I got one of those as well :)

ultimateX5 10-14-2012 11:21 AM

I have one also! Incredible car...mine is black on alcantera/leather

gruppusol 10-14-2012 07:18 PM

mine is avus blau and i don't think i could ever part with it...just too nice!

Auto-links 10-14-2012 09:56 PM

m5 meet?

E39M5 10-14-2012 10:57 PM

Blue water metallic 01 in Hamilton!

bmwm5lover 10-15-2012 10:04 AM

I would be down for an M5 meet!

v_bimmer 10-15-2012 12:16 PM

non m5, 5-series will not be invited ? :(

ultimateX5 10-15-2012 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmwm5lover (Post 1585911)
I would be down for an M5 meet!

+1 I'm in!

The-Traveler 10-15-2012 03:13 PM

Congrats! I want to be the first non-m5 owner in this thread! *th-up*

Auto-links 10-16-2012 03:59 AM

lets get it going before winter
where

bmwm5lover 10-16-2012 11:26 AM

Well, I will be going to the cruise next saturday. As of nov 1 my cars are probably going off the road.

Auto-links 10-17-2012 02:24 AM

Hey m5lover does your wife by chance work around Jane street?
Possible spotting today from my friend who is also an m5 lover :)

bmwm5lover 10-17-2012 10:11 AM

She may have been going to her parents or to her work? Where on Jane street?

Auto-links 10-17-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E39M5 (Post 1585875)
Blue water metallic 01 in Hamilton!


wasn't your car listed on kijiji for a while?

Auto-links 10-17-2012 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmwm5lover (Post 1586157)
She may have been going to her parents or to her work? Where on Jane street?

My friend works around Jane and 7 so I would assume around there somewhere.
He is an m5 lover as well but drives a GLI

bmwm5lover 10-18-2012 02:10 PM

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Since it is all of us M5 guys in here, just a confirmation of what I've been preaching for years!!!
Quote:

The following is the only recommended and approved synthetic oil for BMW M
(Motorsport) vehicles in the US market with gasoline engines, at the present time.
BMW Long-life rating LL-01 Synthetic Oils for BMW M vehicles
equipped with S54, S62, S65 or S85 engines
Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Engine Oil, or
Castrol Formula RS SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Engine Oil
(BMW part number 07 51 0 009 420)"

OVERKILL 10-18-2012 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmwm5lover (Post 1586346)
Since it is all of us M5 guys in here, just a confirmation of what I've been preaching for years!!!

Except that document is US market. Germany (and many other places) still spec's an LL-01 compliant oil for post 03/00 cars.

Not sure why the US recommendation is different, considering the US cars will never be driven as fast for as long as the German cars.

My car came with the BMW LL-01 5w30 document in the glove box. When I contacted BMW in Toronto, they faxed me a copy of their doc that holds the same recommendation as the German one, which is BMW LL-01 5w30 or equivalent meeting the LL-01 spec.

My copy of TIS is from 2011 and it also shows BMW LL-01 5w30 (or equivalent) for the post 03/00 cars.

This has got to be THE most polarized and controversial topic on M5board as well. Some guys want to burn you at the stake for not running TWS, others are adamant that the updated ring design cars really don't need it.

marek 10-18-2012 04:14 PM

I don't think that 10W60 will work that well on a car that is driven in the winter. I doubt it will be easy to start at -30C with 10W60 in it.

OVERKILL 10-18-2012 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marek (Post 1586363)
I don't think that 10W60 will work that well on a car that is driven in the winter. I doubt it will be easy to start at -30C with 10W60 in it.

TWS actually has surprising good cold temp performance. Not anything like Mobil 1 0w40, but pretty bloody good for an oil that is a 60-weight.

bmwm5lover 10-19-2012 10:12 AM

I am a firm believer that if the engine was designed for it, it should be getting it. You are right, it is one of the biggest debates. IF BMW NA says that I should, I will. My 09/99 and my 06/00 BOTH get 10W60. No IFS or BUTS. An extra 20-30 Dollars on oil changes won't put me in the poor house yet.. My biggest worry/piss off is the fuel consumption. We've both been doing more city than HWY (the opposite of before) and our fuel bills have doubled! Now that makes me angry and would be the only reason we would downsize to 1 M5 (my wife loves hers)!!!*shiner*:mad:

OVERKILL 10-19-2012 10:23 AM

IIRC, the build date on mine is early 01, like 03/01 FWIW. Does your 06/00 one have the 5w30 page in the manual?

And I'm curious, what is your oil consumption like and how clean are they under the fill cap? I know when I was shopping around, and from the pictures posted by people doing their valve cover gaskets, the cleanliness range is HUGE! Some are very clean, others disgusting.

One car I looked at, which had been well maintained, but had high mileage was an early build 2000 and it used 1L/1000Km, which I've heard is not uncommon. He, like yourself used nothing but TWS. I've met another couple of M5 owners, one from the GTA, the other, who I consider a friend, and a really good guy, uses Lubro-Moly 10w60. He has an early 2K car as well and it consumes a fair bit, though can't recall exactly how much off the top of my head. The gentleman from the GTA, who's car was, IIRC, a 2001, used less oil. I think 1L/5000Km?

Mine uses 1L/8000Km, which I think is pretty bloody good considering how it is driven. This is with Mobil 1 0w40 in the sump.

Regarding fuel consumption, my other vehicle is an Expedition, so I don't think I need to say any more on that :) But I was pleasantly surprised by a hand-calculated 28Mpg average on my trip to the east coast and back in the M5 last year.

bmwm5lover 10-19-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OVERKILL (Post 1586469)
IIRC, the build date on mine is early 01, like 03/01 FWIW. Does your 06/00 one have the 5w30 page in the manual?

And I'm curious, what is your oil consumption like and how clean are they under the fill cap? I know when I was shopping around, and from the pictures posted by people doing their valve cover gaskets, the cleanliness range is HUGE! Some are very clean, others disgusting.

One car I looked at, which had been well maintained, but had high mileage was an early build 2000 and it used 1L/1000Km, which I've heard is not uncommon. He, like yourself used nothing but TWS. I've met another couple of M5 owners, one from the GTA, the other, who I consider a friend, and a really good guy, uses Lubro-Moly 10w60. He has an early 2K car as well and it consumes a fair bit, though can't recall exactly how much off the top of my head. The gentleman from the GTA, who's car was, IIRC, a 2001, used less oil. I think 1L/5000Km?

Mine uses 1L/8000Km, which I think is pretty bloody good considering how it is driven. This is with Mobil 1 0w40 in the sump.

Regarding fuel consumption, my other vehicle is an Expedition, so I don't think I need to say any more on that :) But I was pleasantly surprised by a hand-calculated 28Mpg average on my trip to the east coast and back in the M5 last year.

I will check my manual to see if I have a 5w30 page, but I have read through my manual several times and I can almost certainly say I don't. I will report back.

As far as oil consumption goes, I drive my car (06/00) Hard some days and pretty easy other days..I don't hold back on the on/off ramps and I drive it like a race car when I go to a MAxCruise or the track and when on the HWY I usually cruise at about 140km/h. I burn pretty much no oil (perhaps 500ml?) between oil changes (every 5-6000km's). One thing I've noticed is the oil consumption usually happens towards the 4000km's+ point when the oil thins out?
I also don't have any SAP issues and the under cap/whetever I see under the oil cap is CLEAAAN! The original VANOS on mine is quiet and start up chatter is nearly non existent.

My wife's 09/99 however, under average driving burns a steady 1L/1000-2000 km's. We are constantly keeping an eye on it to top it up. It is to be expected and it is something that is factored in the ownership of the vehicle. Her oil cap underside is clean and the colour of the chain/whatever you can see, is slightly darker than mine. The oil in it gets dirtier a bit quicker though I've noticed and the VANOS, although rebuilt/replaced is loud upon start up but quiets down shortly after. It also has the dreaded SAP code that pops up, but I don't even hear the pump come on, so that perhaps might be it?

I guess the nature of hand built engines, eh?

PS. HWY cruising we average b/w 9.5-11L depending on speed (100-140km/h). Stop and go bumps it up to about 13-14l/100

PSS. I think lileage also plays a factor. Mine has 217000 km's (owned since 160000) and my wife's has 202000 (owned since 195000)

OVERKILL 10-19-2012 11:48 AM

This is a good discussion :)

Your wife's sounds like my buddy Andrew's, which has loud VANOS and some discoloration under the cap. They consume around the same amount of oil too. I bet their build dates are close.

Mine is like yours, spotless under the cap, VANOS is silent.

Only code I have is the EVAP solenoid, which I have to change out. I did have a CPS die on me (passenger side exhaust cam) shortly after buying it.

Mine has 160,000 on it now, I've owned it since 140,000.

Here's a shot of under my cap:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.c...driveway02.jpg

bmwm5lover 10-21-2012 01:59 PM

This is the page about oil in my manual.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b8...1021-00217.jpg

OVERKILL 10-21-2012 02:42 PM

I'll snap mine for ya so we can compare :)

Auto-links 11-06-2012 04:28 PM

Idling noise:

Is it normal to have a little ticking (very minor) while idling?

I had my mech check it he said it is fine but my buddy said it is not normal?

Oil was changed lately and tuneup done... new plugs etc

parm 11-06-2012 04:49 PM

"Blue water" rolling hard in the Scarboro Area !

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...8/DSC01472.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...8/DSC01473.jpg

bmwm5lover 11-06-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auto-links (Post 1588411)
Idling noise:

Is it normal to have a little ticking (very minor) while idling?

I had my mech check it he said it is fine but my buddy said it is not normal?

Oil was changed lately and tuneup done... new plugs etc

Hard to say, but these motors aren't quiet by any means. Vanos noise is normal. Bottom end or metal to metal is not.

parm 11-06-2012 08:31 PM

My Car ticked like hell when i got it, was 1 of the exhaust cam sensor.

Auto-links 11-08-2012 04:49 AM

cool.
where you at in scarborough?


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