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Bullet Ride 12-14-2011 01:23 PM

Here's an interesting read on the topic supporting Canada's decision

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/...ay-from-kyoto/

sirex 12-14-2011 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by South (Post 1539326)
fcplm

So I guess schools are teaching us liberal hoax crap is that it?

Sunlight hits the earth during the day
At night that energy is released back into space through infrared waves
CO2 and other greenhouse, let me emphasize, greenhouse, gases absorb the infrared
This heats shit up

More green house gases the more infrared is absorbed.

Price tag on greenhouse gases on CO2 emissions, OK STOP are you ****ing trolling me now? like did you read this thread or just post blindly. Information on this is provided throughout this thread in a number of links and references.

Lazy bastard..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_tax


Are we now debating whether global warming even exists now?



CO2 doesn't contribute to the greenhouse effect to the extent as we are led to believe by Al Gore, and wikipedia is not a good enough resource to defend this position. For ever scientific paper that claims CO2 has detrimental impact on global warming there is 1 that claims the opposite from just as many well known scientists.

bmdbley'sBro 12-14-2011 08:46 PM

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everything is so tainted, that of course the vehicle pretensed as 'helping the environment' has a darker agenda

Dr. Flyview 12-14-2011 09:10 PM

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL WHO THE F CARES!?!?!

We are probably going to destroy ourselves whether we do it in 40 years or 5000 years. There is no way we are going to change how we make energy quick enough to stop "catastrophic" climate change. I put catastrophic in quotes because on the grand scale of things, sure some species will die off, but new ones will form, etc.

Humans are but a speck on the history of life on this planet (~200k years out of ~3 000 000k years).

Also, huge climate changes have been going on since the beginning of time. In fact, we survived through an ice age from 100k to 10k years ago...

Bartacus 12-14-2011 09:15 PM

This man knows more than the lot of you, and he's a dead comedian. TAKE THAT!!!! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw

damameke 12-14-2011 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bartacus (Post 1539501)
This man knows more than the lot of you, and he's a dead comedian. TAKE THAT!!!! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw

Like:

Planet is fine. people are fxxk.....very true lol...

bmdbley'sBro 12-14-2011 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Flyview (Post 1539500)
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL WHO THE F CARES!?!?!

We are probably going to destroy ourselves whether we do it in 40 years or 5000 years. There is no way we are going to change how we make energy quick enough to stop "catastrophic" climate change. I put catastrophic in quotes because on the grand scale of things, sure some species will die off, but new ones will form, etc.

Humans are but a speck on the history of life on this planet (~200k years out of ~3 000 000k years).

Also, huge climate changes have been going on since the beginning of time. In fact, we survived through an ice age from 100k to 10k years ago...

'They're Nihilists, Donny'
http://youtu.be/kYWy--We8hQ

5style 12-14-2011 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Flyview (Post 1539500)
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL WHO THE F CARES!?!?!

We are probably going to destroy ourselves whether we do it in 40 years or 5000 years. There is no way we are going to change how we make energy quick enough to stop "catastrophic" climate change. I put catastrophic in quotes because on the grand scale of things, sure some species will die off, but new ones will form, etc.

Humans are but a speck on the history of life on this planet (~200k years out of ~3 000 000k years).

Also, huge climate changes have been going on since the beginning of time. In fact, we survived through an ice age from 100k to 10k years ago...


Aren t the magnetic poles gon reverse soon and we are gonna have a new ice age? I don't think we have enough CO2 to warm us up after that shit :P

calegrant 12-14-2011 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Flyview (Post 1539500)
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL WHO THE F CARES!?!?!

We are probably going to destroy ourselves whether we do it in 40 years or 5000 years. There is no way we are going to change how we make energy quick enough to stop "catastrophic" climate change. I put catastrophic in quotes because on the grand scale of things, sure some species will die off, but new ones will form, etc.

Humans are but a speck on the history of life on this planet (~200k years out of ~3 000 000k years).

Also, huge climate changes have been going on since the beginning of time. In fact, we survived through an ice age from 100k to 10k years ago...

People who care about what our future generations are going to have to deal with? Your attitude is a joke, as are you for having that kind of approach to something which does affect us all.

Your comparison of the last ice age to human induced climate change tells me you know absolutely nothing on the subject and are merely hoping the technology you hold so dear will provide a safety net for what will occur if we keep going down the path we are.

sirex 12-14-2011 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by calegrant (Post 1539515)
People who care about what our future generations are going to have to deal with? Your attitude is a joke, as are you for having that kind of approach to something which does affect us all.

Your comparison of the last ice age to human induced climate change tells me you know absolutely nothing on the subject and are merely hoping the technology you hold so dear will provide a safety net for what will occur if we keep going down the path we are.


yo guy, private enterprise will sort it out.

5style 12-14-2011 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calegrant (Post 1539515)
People who care about what our future generations are going to have to deal with? Your attitude is a joke, as are you for having that kind of approach to something which does affect us all.

Your comparison of the last ice age to human induced climate change tells me you know absolutely nothing on the subject and are merely hoping the technology you hold so dear will provide a safety net for what will occur if we keep going down the path we are.

You do realize that there have been 6 ice ages and we are due for the next in our lifetime right? And all this CO2 will not matter when POLARITIES IN THE POLES REVERSE CAUSING A MASSIVE CLIMATE CHANGE AND CHANGES IN THE EARTH'S ROTATIONAL AXIS IN RELATION TO THE SUN? And nothing you do will stop that? Just making sure you are aware of this.

calegrant 12-14-2011 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 5style (Post 1539519)
You do realize that there have been 6 ice ages and we are due for the next in our lifetime right? And all this CO2 will not matter when POLARITIES IN THE POLES REVERSE CAUSING A MASSIVE CLIMATE CHANGE AND CHANGES IN THE EARTH'S ROTATIONAL AXIS IN RELATION TO THE SUN? And nothing you do will stop that? Just making sure you are aware of this.

Actually we're in an ice age right now, what you're confused with is glaciation and us being in an interglacial period. So yes, despite your horribly worded and incorrect description of ice ages I'm well aware of their occurrence.
r
A geomagnetic reversal yes, a polar shift absolutely not. Again you're out of your element here. A geomagnetic reversal will occur at an unknown time in the future, it is not something we can predict nor prevent. The cause is not fully understood, however what IS understood is that the events your ignorant self is predicting simply will not occur. Our magnetic field protects us greatly yes, but our atmosphere also does a damn fine job against protecting us from the charged particles the sun pumps out.

As for your extremely stupid comment about a polar shift occurring, no...just no. Go do some research on what that actually entails, where it's occurred in our universe and the effects of such an event. Events such as that happen when bodies collide, it's not something that has ever or is likely to ever occur to Earth.

5style 12-15-2011 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by calegrant (Post 1539537)
Actually we're in an ice age right now, what you're confused with is glaciation and us being in an interglacial period. So yes, despite your horribly worded and incorrect description of ice ages I'm well aware of their occurrence.
r
A geomagnetic reversal yes, a polar shift absolutely not. Again you're out of your element here. A geomagnetic reversal will occur at an unknown time in the future, it is not something we can predict nor prevent. The cause is not fully understood, however what IS understood is that the events your ignorant self is predicting simply will not occur. Our magnetic field protects us greatly yes, but our atmosphere also does a damn fine job against protecting us from the charged particles the sun pumps out.

As for your extremely stupid comment about a polar shift occurring, no...just no. Go do some research on what that actually entails, where it's occurred in our universe and the effects of such an event. Events such as that happen when bodies collide, it's not something that has ever or is likely to ever occur to Earth.

Says the S52 powered e30 environmental hippie fcplm

calegrant 12-15-2011 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 5style (Post 1539561)
Says the S52 powered e30 environmental hippie fcplm

Great post, you really stood up for yourself well there. When backed into a corner, start swinging and take what you can get?

I never claimed to be desperate to save the world, and I'm intelligent enough to know that a weekend car isn't going to make or break our efforts. It's industry that needs to change and commercial vehicles, the people who make money and then the rest will follow suit. You really do seem to have no grasp of what are the causes and affect of climate change or basic earth science, I suggest you educate yourself before you try to use your ignorance as a weapon to argue with. Way to carry on the tradition of you posting garbage:rolleyes:

5style 12-15-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by calegrant (Post 1539598)
Great post, you really stood up for yourself well there. When backed into a corner, start swinging and take what you can get?

I never claimed to be desperate to save the world, and I'm intelligent enough to know that a weekend car isn't going to make or break our efforts. It's industry that needs to change and commercial vehicles, the people who make money and then the rest will follow suit. You really do seem to have no grasp of what are the causes and affect of climate change or basic earth science, I suggest you educate yourself before you try to use your ignorance as a weapon to argue with. Way to carry on the tradition of you posting garbage:rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by calegrant (Post 1539515)
People who care about what our future generations are going to have to deal with? Your attitude is a joke, as are you for having that kind of approach to something which does affect us all.


O rly?


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