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ac_2007 02-05-2012 09:55 AM

325i Fair asking price?
 
Hello fellow enthusiasts,

I'm just curious to see what the value on my car could be seeing as its relatively low mileage for the year and I could be interested in selling this spring.

Details:
- 2001 325i
- only 88,000 km
- Manual Transmission
- Non-sport package
- 18" VMR V710 reps
- Magnaflow catback
- K&N 57 Series intake
- BimmerBrake Headers
- Xenon lights




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cormier 02-05-2012 10:43 AM

E46s are drastically down in price -- I'd say 6 or 7k with the wheels? Most over that are having a hard time selling from what I've seen

BimmerGuys 02-05-2012 11:02 AM

Last week i sold a 2001 320i with 180km for $6000. I would ask $9000 retail for it.

ac_2007 02-05-2012 11:19 AM

Even with only 88k on the dash?
For $9000 I'd prefer to drive it till the wheels fall off.

Plenty of facelifts with 160k+ are asking 12 to 15k on Kijiji.

cormier 02-05-2012 11:21 AM

I would try then, and keep it if you don't get what you want for it

There's lots of 46s going for under 6 now too

pearl_iroc 02-05-2012 12:52 PM

There are e46s out there going for 3k too. However all these lower priced e46s in the 3-6k ish range are either 320s or 323s or have very high mileage and look beat up. I agree with the above poster that 9k would be a good asking price.

njansenv 02-05-2012 03:29 PM

Facelifts w/160k aren't selling for 15k, no matter what they are asking. E46 prices have tanked, big time. (Says the guy who sold his 150k '04 manual trans touring for $8500. It hurt.) I think it would take a long time to sell even at $9k, frankly...though the car appears to be very clean.
Lots of tire kicking and false promises selling through kijiji. I've had a number of board members (here) even contact me through kijiji telling me "they'll pick it up this weekend", only to no show, or later tell me they don't have any money.

Good luck with the sale...selling cars is only getting harder as buyers increasingly seem not to respect the sellers time.

Blackedout95 02-05-2012 03:35 PM

Its easily worth over $8k-$9k, I would say more but the year hurts a bit and takes away from km's, kind of a catch 22. One good, one bad.

I see plenty of e46's and yes they can be had for $4k BUT that $4k is a POS! youll spend $XXXX on and has high mileage.

A "good" e46 with little to no issues at all and 100k-150k are $6500-$10k+ all day if xi or higher model.

ac_2007 02-06-2012 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njansenv (Post 1547308)
Facelifts w/160k aren't selling for 15k, no matter what they are asking. E46 prices have tanked, big time. (Says the guy who sold his 150k '04 manual trans touring for $8500. It hurt.) I think it would take a long time to sell even at $9k, frankly...though the car appears to be very clean.
Lots of tire kicking and false promises selling through kijiji. I've had a number of board members (here) even contact me through kijiji telling me "they'll pick it up this weekend", only to no show, or later tell me they don't have any money.

Good luck with the sale...selling cars is only getting harder as buyers increasingly seem not to respect the sellers time.


Note I said "asking 12-15k" *wiggle*

The car is super clean, just retrofitted the OBC stalk, LED interior lights, and flashed the DME to Euro2 this winter while in storage. The body is way too clean for me to sell at even 10k.

Guess I'll be searching for a S/C kit this spring, and cross my fingers for the S54/6-speed swap eventually *angel*

blakneto 02-07-2012 12:37 AM

$9000 if you want people to ask about it... $6500 if you want it sold within a reasonable time frame... Remember, just cuz YOU think its an awesome car, other people are gonna think is an awesome CHEAP car... we are talking about a car that is 10+ years old...

Old skool and Classics don't make RARE and VINTAGE...

If you wanna sell it. Sell it.
If you wanna make money off it... well thats a different story.

Bimmer Heaven 02-07-2012 01:19 AM

Is the milage documented? If not, the #'s on the cluster mean nothing.
Also the amount of aftermarker parts can play agains you, as most people are looking of all original, OEM base, to start modding. Also the bodywork/paint not matching could keep the value down.

ac_2007 02-07-2012 12:52 PM

Well since you asked, the car is accident free and never had any kind of claim.

Only 88k km because it was a summer car driven by a woman in Kitchener.
Purchased it at 74k, and it's never seen a snowflake.

To the guy who said $6500, there is absolutely no E46 of the same condition and mileage you'll find for that amount. Even so, looks like I'll pass this car on to my children ;)

cormier 02-07-2012 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ac_2007 (Post 1547612)
looks like I'll pass this car on to my children ;)

Lol I'm thinking the same thing of mine, which wouldn't sell for nearly as much as yours lol

njansenv 02-07-2012 01:18 PM

Put it up for sale for what you think it's worth. (Which is?)
If it sells, we're wrong, and good for you. You asked our opinion on the internet, and you don't like it.
If it doesn't sell, then you haven't lost anything.

ac_2007 02-07-2012 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njansenv (Post 1547615)
Put it up for sale for what you think it's worth. (Which is?)
If it sells, we're wrong, and good for you. You asked our opinion on the internet, and you don't like it.
If it doesn't sell, then you haven't lost anything.

What makes you say that? I was expecting low figures.

Just stating the fact that you won't find an 01 with my mileage for $6500. Guess that doesn't matter too much nowadays, huh.
My car is the iPhone 2 in the era of the 4s yes, yes ;)

Or maybe its a Nokia :D

Bimmer Heaven 02-08-2012 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ac_2007 (Post 1547697)
Just stating the fact that you won't find an 01 with my mileage for $6500. Guess that doesn't matter too much nowadays, huh.

Like i said before, with no FULL records, it means NOTHING! For a few hundred bucks the car can show whatever milage you want it to. One owner cars are VERY easy to do, since the original owner is the only one who knows the milage and no records are kept at the DMW (during ownership transfers). You can be the 1st owner, drive it to 200K and roll back to 50K, nobody has any records of it, other then the dealer if it was maintained there.

I'm not saying its not a nice clean car, but i hope you did some checking before you got it! Too many crooks out there; friend of mine just got a van with 40K, and after i did some checks it turns out it was 120K. :mad:
I want to *uzi**uzi* the dealer who sold it to him!!! (and it was SALVAGE)

StraightSix 02-08-2012 01:20 AM

Even though it's old, it still has low kilometers. Put it up for what you think it's worth and if you don't get what you're looking for just keep it. Not worth letting go for 6k for the low kilometers that it has.

Another thing I would also do if you're really serious about selling is try and get it back as close as you can to OEM. Putting back the stock exhaust and stock rims if you still have them. OEM is a big selling point on kijiji. Plus then you can sell the rims and exhaust separately and make more of a profit. When people see that a car has mods they instantly think that its been abused.

ac_2007 02-09-2012 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eurostyle (Post 1547741)
Like i said before, with no FULL records, it means NOTHING! For a few hundred bucks the car can show whatever milage you want it to. One owner cars are VERY easy to do, since the original owner is the only one who knows the milage and no records are kept at the DMW (during ownership transfers). You can be the 1st owner, drive it to 200K and roll back to 50K, nobody has any records of it, other then the dealer if it was maintained there.

I'm not saying its not a nice clean car, but i hope you did some checking before you got it! Too many crooks out there; friend of mine just got a van with 40K, and after i did some checks it turns out it was 120K. :mad:
I want to *uzi**uzi* the dealer who sold it to him!!! (and it was SALVAGE)

Whenever the E-test is done, I thought they record the mileage with the ministry as well? Swapping/programming the LCM, Cluster, Keys, and ECU is very possible. All of those components are all original and changing the mileage is not possible with the type of chip my cluster has.

Even if I didn't have the paperwork, one look at the undercarriage confirms the mileage.


Quote:

Originally Posted by StraightSix (Post 1547755)
Even though it's old, it still has low kilometers. Put it up for what you think it's worth and if you don't get what you're looking for just keep it. Not worth letting go for 6k for the low kilometers that it has.

Another thing I would also do if you're really serious about selling is try and get it back as close as you can to OEM. Putting back the stock exhaust and stock rims if you still have them. OEM is a big selling point on kijiji. Plus then you can sell the rims and exhaust separately and make more of a profit. When people see that a car has mods they instantly think that its been abused.

Agreed. Nice to see another local E46fanatic.

noodles101 02-09-2012 03:46 PM

ur car is clean! dont sell it, ur car is m sport bumpers away from lookin 10/10

ac_2007 02-09-2012 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodles101 (Post 1548067)
ur car is clean! dont sell it, ur car is m sport bumpers away from lookin 10/10

Thanks man. I love my non-sport front bumper.

Wouldn't mind an MtechII rear, though.

noodles101 02-09-2012 04:13 PM

yeah i think these days, you dont get much more money for having low km..maybe a little more but not worth selling it. someone who ends up buying ur car will get the better end of the deal.

blakneto 02-09-2012 09:08 PM

"... it was a summer car driven by a woman in Kitchener." fcplm

why is it a car, driven by a woman, seems to be used as a selling point?? :confused:

Most women i know, don't have a clue about their car, drive it pretty rough, and don't care as long as it gets them from point A to point B.
The only advantage I see is if the car is bruk, a woman is smarter than a guy in taking it in to get fixed. *mumble*

ac_2007 02-10-2012 03:29 AM

I was stating the facts based on the paperwork on hand, not presenting it as a selling point.

yung 02-10-2012 12:14 PM

completely off topic... but do you now what part # the magnaflow muffler is? it looks pretty nice thankkss

ac_2007 02-10-2012 01:59 PM

If you have a 325/330, the catback you want is Magnaflow p/n 16533. It will run you about $600 on ebay.

They have minimum pricing and you won't be able to find the link yourself, so if you want it, PM me. Another option is cutting off the OEM muffler and welding in a universal Magnaflow.

noodles101 02-10-2012 05:05 PM

^^ never put a universal magnaflow..lol my friend did that, drone sound from hell every rpm/ speed.

Goodtohave 02-11-2012 08:18 AM

We forget how old our cars are...

A 12 yr old non sports package sedan is not the kind of car someone falls in love with and must have, regardless of mileage.

The 12k you want will buy a lot of cars these days.

Don't get me wrong, nice car but you just won't get a lot of money for it, and I have one too!

SultanX 02-11-2012 03:55 PM

Beautiful looking E46, ac_2007!

Being in the market for an older/used BMW (and hence registration on this site *wave*), I've done a bit of research recently.

I can only give my personal view on it, but I'd have no problem paying up to $10k for it given its really low mileage and cleanliness. That's still a good price comparing to a lot of other listings I've come across! Anything higher and the doubts would start to set in, though.

Definitely keep it/pass it on if you feel that's best -- probably not even worth selling!

ac_2007 02-11-2012 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodles101 (Post 1548248)
^^ never put a universal magnaflow..lol my friend did that, drone sound from hell every rpm/ speed.

This is one of the most popular routes taken by E46Fanatics members.. aside from the dreadful muffler delete done by noobs who purchase the car cheap and want to rice it out.

From what I've heard it only sounds a bit louder than the ZHP OEM exhaust.


Quote:

Originally Posted by SultanX (Post 1548369)
Beautiful looking E46, ac_2007!

Being in the market for an older/used BMW (and hence registration on this site *wave*), I've done a bit of research recently.

I can only give my personal view on it, but I'd have no problem paying up to $10k for it given its really low mileage and cleanliness. That's still a good price comparing to a lot of other listings I've come across! Anything higher and the doubts would start to set in, though.

Definitely keep it/pass it on if you feel that's best -- probably not even worth selling!

Thank you :)

StraightSix 02-11-2012 05:34 PM

There's no drone if you leave the resonators in.

mgunter 02-12-2012 04:34 PM

I was shocked at how cheap E46's are getting a few months ago when I found out about a '02 325I that went for $3500. It was a black sedan with around 130000 km's on it. Bone stock with an extra set of winter rims/tires. I found out about it a couple of days after it was sold from someone I worked with who didn't take it because it didn't have a sunroof :rolleyes:

ac_2007 02-15-2012 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgunter (Post 1548506)
I was shocked at how cheap E46's are getting a few months ago when I found out about a '02 325I that went for $3500. It was a black sedan with around 130000 km's on it. Bone stock with an extra set of winter rims/tires. I found out about it a couple of days after it was sold from someone I worked with who didn't take it because it didn't have a sunroof :rolleyes:

I think that has less to do with the depreciation of the car, and more to do with:
a) the condition of the car (must've been horrible)
b) the seller of the vehicle didn't know the value of what he was selling

mgunter 02-15-2012 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ac_2007 (Post 1549105)
I think that has less to do with the depreciation of the car, and more to do with:
a) the condition of the car (must've been horrible)
b) the seller of the vehicle didn't know the value of what he was selling

I think you're right with number 2 but I saw the car and it was clean.
Exterior and interior were clean. Leather had regular wear but not excessive.
I would be driving it right now if I had found out sooner.

Goodtohave 02-15-2012 06:34 PM

I agree ...that was a lowball trade in price at best.



Quote:

Originally Posted by ac_2007 (Post 1549105)
I think that has less to do with the depreciation of the car, and more to do with:
a) the condition of the car (must've been horrible)
b) the seller of the vehicle didn't know the value of what he was selling


3SERB 02-24-2012 07:29 PM

Take a look online at VRM, http://www.vmrcanada.com/value_menus.../01bm3-es.html

Its only an estimate but the range from 8-10 sounds about right.

Goodtohave 02-24-2012 08:15 PM

As a dealer friend said the black book doesn't write cheques.

Not a chance any dealer would give $5500 for an 11yr old 325 sedan.

ac_2007 02-26-2012 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3SERB (Post 1550489)
Take a look online at VRM, http://www.vmrcanada.com/value_menus.../01bm3-es.html

Its only an estimate but the range from 8-10 sounds about right.

Thanks, my friend's been looking for that actually.

Not selling the car anymore. It will get an S54 in the near future.

cormier 02-26-2012 07:53 AM

S54 wooooohooooo! That'll be awesome be sure to put up a thread on it. I'm sure that'll make you much more happy than the cruddy value you may have gotten for it


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