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Mars 09-06-2011 01:50 AM

Hi, maybe late on this one, but anyway. Last week I was speaking with a guy at the RIV about this mather. He told me that himself have exported 3 cars already and the only thing that I need is Warranty Vehicle Inquiry, if you have trouble to get this paper from the dealer, only have to tell him that you won't buy the car, he will get it for you then. You don't need to change the cluster.
When you will receive the form #2 there will be stickers included.
Stick them over your existing cluster and you are on your way to Canadian Tire of course don't forget your daytime driving lights
BMW Canada didn’t scam you this time

iverson03tj 09-16-2011 10:43 PM

Hey guys,

My uncle is looking to buy a 2010 camry hybrid from the states, the seller aggreed to drive the car across the border, what will he have to do to register it, and what will be the fees associated with it.

Which way would be cheaper?

dcramer 09-17-2011 09:10 AM

go to riv.ca, I would not recommend this path. I would have your uncle go there and drive it across. The process is well documented on the RIV site.

propr'one 09-17-2011 09:44 AM

^^this is good advice. keep in mind all 2010+ newer vehicles must have an immobilizer installed to pass RIV, as far as i've seen there are no exceptions (you can have an aftermarket one installed).

mkgino 01-31-2012 08:35 PM

Just curious as to what people did for getting their name on the title of the vehicle?

I am importing my first BMW right now and made the purchase, but the BMW dealer in the US I bought it from says to put my name on the cars title they have to submit it to the DMV, but the DMV wont put my name on with my canadian address?

How did others get their name on the title?

propr'one 01-31-2012 08:37 PM

^^you dont need your name on the title, it can be in their name with a bill of sale that shows the transfer.

mkgino 01-31-2012 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propr'one (Post 1546536)
^^you dont need your name on the title, it can be in their name with a bill of sale that shows the transfer.

So after I make the purchase, the title of the car will be in BMW Financial Services/Dealerships name.

I take that title with my bill of sale that has my name on it, and go to the border and import it (after emailing it and waiting 72hrs)?

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/trade/bas...or_vehicle.xml

Here it does not specify the name on the title. So they should just send me the title they have without my name on it? Im just worried once I reach the border, they will seize the car.

propr'one 01-31-2012 09:08 PM

Correct, title does not need to have your name when sent to US export office.


What did you buy/

mkgino 01-31-2012 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propr'one (Post 1546542)
correct, title does not need to have your name when sent to us export office.


What did you buy/

2011 m3 :)

Are you SURE about this? Anyone else want to comment for verification? Just worried about going through the whole driving to the border and getting turned back.

Blackedout95 01-31-2012 09:36 PM

Sure....

Now post pics!

mudmojo 01-31-2012 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkgino (Post 1546543)
2011 m3 :)

Are you SURE about this? Anyone else want to comment for verification? Just worried about going through the whole driving to the border and getting turned back.


Assuming that motorcycle import rules are the same as auto import rules, then yes. I went with a buddy and a pickup truck down to NC to pick up a motorcycle, paid for it with cash and flatbedded it right back up. We were gone for no more than 48 hrs from start to finish.

Turns out, the title (or certificate of origin as it's called in certain states) was already faxed to the US export office in Lewiston days before we left for NC. I was hesitant about this myself since I don't believe this was specifically spelled out and I didn't want to spend another day or two waiting in Buffalo waiting for this to clear.

From what I've read, you can also take the car out of the US and bring the car into Canada with the knowledge that you cannot officially export or import it until your max-72 hr holdout period has elapsed. Then you can bring the car into the states again to do the paperwork when ready. Double check on that last piece of advise though. I've never done that myself.

For each of the cars that I've personally imported, way more than 72 hrs had elapsed before my arrival at the US export office. It would also be prudent to call the office a day ahead of your arrival time just to make sure they have the paperwork and that they'll be expecting you in a day's time.

mkgino 01-31-2012 10:02 PM

Ok, we have established that the title does not have to be in my name. I have been reading some comments that the title has to be endorsed to me (ie by signing it on the back), but the BMW dealership said they dont do this since they are a reseller and not technically an owner.

They mentioned they are going to give me the title, with a stapled paper of assignment saying that they are assigning the title to me, but its my responsibility to go to the registration office (in this case it will be at the MTO), to get a title for the car in my name.

Sound right?

mudmojo 01-31-2012 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkgino (Post 1546534)
I am importing my first BMW right now and made the purchase, but the BMW dealer in the US I bought it from says to put my name on the cars title they have to submit it to the DMV, but the DMV wont put my name on with my canadian address?

How did others get their name on the title?

I think this is the crux of your problem that you should focus on. If you paid for it in full, it should be under your name... period. Sometimes a lien may take weeks to clear though. Is that the case?

More likely, the salesperson you are speaking to is ill informed. This is not uncommon. I have never heard of this myself. Not saying it cannot be but maybe there's an easy solution for you. Sounds like a simple administration issue.

Which state is the dealership in?

Of course, there may other extenuating circumstances that the dealership is trying to mitigate.

For example, I believe dealerships in California have to charge state sales taxes if the car is being driven off the dealership lot regardless if they live in Los Angeles or Miami or Toronto or Munich. That same dealership does not have to charge state tax if the car is shipped to its destination or picked up in, say, the AZ side of the AZ/CA border. In this instance, if they have to charge you sales tax, you will be less likely to buy the car from them. Think I also read that state sales taxes are refundable or something to that extent but that's a process I'd avoid at all costs.

If you don't get the title in your name after all, you should be able to still export it out of the US but I don't know if you can import it into Canada, federalize it and then later license it in the prov of Ontario.

Initially, I thought you were asking about the 72 hr fax only. For that, you do not need your name on the title however I am not sure if they will allow you to export without your actual name on the title.

I would think that Canadian used car dealers who specialize in acquiring and selling multiple USDM cars at once don't change ownership on the titles as that would devalue the car but that's just a guess.

mkgino 02-01-2012 12:08 AM

Here is what I would like to know from someone who has done this when importing their BMW, bought from a BMW Dealership.

1. Does the title have to be in your name?
2. If so how did you register with the DMV with no US address?
3. If not, what paperwork did you receive from the BMW Dealership? Did they sign something to endorse you as the new owner on the title?
4. Were there issues with declaring the car at the Canadian Border if the name on the title does not match the persons name who is importing?
5. Was there an issue with registering at the MTO afterwards if the title does not match your name?
6. Does the BMW dealership sign the back of the title in the buyer/seller section, or is this only for private sales?

Someone who has gone through the process of importing without changing the title please comment.

Thanks.

mkgino 02-01-2012 02:13 AM

Also, does the canadian side need to be informed 72 hours in advance of crossing or is this only for the american side?


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