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Philboski
12-05-2007, 02:11 PM
Hi there,

Got an invite to drop by here from Chromius in a thread on Bimmerforums.com. It's cool that there is actually an Ottawa section on one of these forums.

My airbag light has been on the car since I bought it. The PO said that it was some kind of relay or the like under the driver's seat. I wrote it down, but naturally lost the paper *mumble* .

Does anyone here have an airbag code reader, or will I be forced to bite the bullet and take it to Duss Bros. to get the code read?

Jamil20
12-05-2007, 03:11 PM
No, but I need the reset tool myself. The tool is about $120-150, which is almost the cost of a reset at a garage. I'd be interested in splitting the cost of buying the tool with whoever needs it too. :)

Does your airbag light come on then turn off after 2 minutes? If that's the case, you don't need to replace anything, just need to reset your SRS system. Sometimes, you can trigger a fault in the system just by adjusting the seat. That's how mine turned on. :(

bmdbley'sBro
12-05-2007, 04:49 PM
welcome to max *th-up*

Does your airbag light come on then turn off after 2 minutes? If that's the case, you don't need to replace anything, just need to reset your SRS system. Sometimes, you can trigger a fault in the system just by adjusting the seat. That's how mine turned on. :(

thats what mine does... its cause i had the gauge cluster out..

Jamil20
12-05-2007, 05:01 PM
Here's the tool BTW:

http://www.peakeresearch.com/srstool.htm

Philboski
12-05-2007, 05:13 PM
I am trying to avoid paying for something that I already wrote down....somewhere. I have my car in the shop now due to a bad timing chain guide, so I'll be going broke, just in time for X-mas. I know Duss Brothers can do it too. Once I get the code, I'll do the repair myself, then get a quickie reset.

ecuconnection
12-05-2007, 06:33 PM
welcome and good luck

chromius
12-06-2007, 10:39 AM
Philboski, Great to see you joined! Sorry I don't have the SRS tool. But like Jamil said, might be worth a few of us getting together and buying it. I don't need it right now, but I'm sure it's something I'll need in the future, so I'd be willing to throw in a few bucks.

BTW, what happend with the timing chain guide? How did you know it was bad? (symptoms etc.) Just for reference since we have the same ride, I figure it's good info for me to know incase mine goes too.*shiner*

Philboski
12-07-2007, 08:43 AM
Symptoms?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5Xb8pgMMTI

My mechanic thought it was related to the belts at first, but quickly discovered it was a chain guide. The part has some nylon on it, and this was destroyed. The chain jumped a tooth as well. Big job -- timing covers have to come off as do the valve covers. Lots o' labour.

On top of this, he was really slow getting to my car because,and I quote "I had a whole bunch of people coming in to get their snow tires done." So, apparently, my money is less important than theirs. Second job in a row where he said it would be done at a certain time, and failed to deliver (actually, he has done this three times alone on this job!). I will be having a chat with him when I pick up the car, and depending on his answers, he might lose my business. And he is sooo much cheaper than Duss Bros.

Geez, I just reread that last para. Think I'm a little bitter? :D

I should get the car back today. This is at Autobahn in Manotick by the way.

Philboski
12-07-2007, 08:45 AM
BTW, what happend with the timing chain guide? How did you know it was bad? (symptoms etc.) Just for reference since we have the same ride, I figure it's good info for me to know incase mine goes too.*shiner*

Oh, and by the way, my girlfriend knows a guy at work who is friends with a guy who used to work on Bimmers here in Ottawa (sorry, don't know the name). Apparently he did the chain tensioner job many times on 7-series. Take that for what it's worth.

chromius
12-07-2007, 09:21 AM
I should get the car back today. This is at Autobahn in Manotick by the way.

Ah Yes...Todd. I know him. My Father brings his car to him, and swears by him. Nice guy, but I don't bring my car to him. His real speciality is Porsche's I think, and I think he's "learning as he goes" with the Bimmers. I asked him once what he would charge for replacing a rear Ball joint on the 540, and he procedded to tell me that 540's didn't have a rear ball joint, and I would need to replace the entire control arm. I quickly decided I wouldn't be going there. I'd much prefer to stick to doing it myself. I can at least trust my own work to a degree.:) I'm sure he's a great mechanic, but not necessairily a BMW specialist. And Because he's pretty much a one man operation, like you said, it can take a while to get work done.

Philboski
12-07-2007, 11:08 AM
And he offered to do my rear ball joints! He has the tool and everything!

Yeah, Todd was a Porsche tech for a while, and he does a lot of VW work apparently, but he seems to know his Bimmers as well, or at least now he does. I have asked him a couple of questions where I knew the answer, and it wouldn't be common knowledge. When did you deal with him?

My issue isn't with the work, it's with the customer service. Is it too much to ask to do what you say, when you say? It might be worth the wait to save the cash on labour -- he doesn't charge book rate, and he only dinged me for two hours on the rear shocks for my Bimmer, when he said it would take him one hour, and he ended up taking three.

Like I said, we'll see how our calm, constructive chat goes. Otherwise......well, take a look at my avatar :D

chromius
12-07-2007, 11:14 AM
Well, this was a while back when he first opened and my father told me to go check him out. So it sounds like he's picking it up quickly. You know what they say about first impressions though, that's what scared me away.

He might be worth another look for those pain in the butt jobs that I really don't feel like doing myself. Since his labour rate really is very good.

aziz
12-07-2007, 12:58 PM
whats his contact info, i need a front drive shaft fast!!

carjoe
12-07-2007, 11:18 PM
Oh wow, my buddy just brought his car there. Havent' talked to him since. I think his car was there for a week while he was out of town. He had tons of stuff done to his E36. I should ask how it went.

Philboski
12-10-2007, 08:26 AM
whats his contact info, i need a front drive shaft fast!!


Not until I get my car back. I don't want you jumping in front of me in line! :D.

I should be getting it back today (touch wood), barring some unforeseen incident like him blowing the engine or something.

Philboski
12-11-2007, 07:56 AM
Well, got the car back last night ($2346 -- mostly parts). I had no idea that this was such a big job. Apparently one has to drop the oil pan to take off the timing cover.

Todd showed me the parts (kicking myself for not taking my camera), and the plastic on the chain guide was completely toast -- just a ton of little bits and pieces. The rest of the associated parts looked good, but then they look great right up until they go, don't they?

I had my chat with him about sating something would happen and when, and then missing that time completely. I tried to be very constructive. He had a point -- to a certain degree -- when he said that it was better for his business to anger one customer than twenty, but I noted that a simple phone call to say that he had gotten suddenly very busy might have been nice.

Of course, me being me, I feel terrible for even raising the issue, but that's neither here nor there. I felt worse when I realised that the car had never run better.


Of course -- naturally, because I need more stress -- a CEL came up this this morning. I'll check it out tonight.

chromius
12-11-2007, 08:46 AM
Well, got the car back last night ($2346 -- mostly parts). I had no idea that this was such a big job. Apparently one has to drop the oil pan to take off the timing cover.


Wow, I had no idea that job would cost that much, sorry to hear that man, especially taking that hit right before the holidays. Where did he source his parts do you know?

when he said that it was better for his business to anger one customer than twenty, but I noted that a simple phone call to say that he had gotten suddenly very busy might have been nice.


That to me is not a way to run a business though. It shows me that he's taking on more work than he can handle. If he makes a commitment to a customer he should follow through, not take on 20 more jobs and put the first ones on the side burner. Especially when we're talking about a $2000+ job here. Not to mention, to anger one person who is part of the ottawa BMW community, is probably a lot worse for his business then it would have been to anger those other 20 people.:D Ah well, just my 2 cents.

If you need to borrow my code reader for that CEL, just let me know.*th-up*

Philboski
12-11-2007, 09:19 AM
Wow, I had no idea that job would cost that much, sorry to hear that man, especially taking that hit right before the holidays. Where did he source his parts do you know?



That to me is not a way to run a business though. It shows me that he's taking on more work than he can handle. If he makes a commitment to a customer he should follow through, not take on 20 more jobs and put the first ones on the side burner. Especially when we're talking about a $2000+ job here. Not to mention, to anger one person who is part of the ottawa BMW community, is probably a lot worse for his business then it would have been to anger those other 20 people.:D Ah well, just my 2 cents.

If you need to borrow my code reader for that CEL, just let me know.*th-up*

He got them fom BMW. I know he went elsewhere first, but many of the pieces were dealer only. Labour was 12 hours @ $65/hr, which is actually pretty good considering the oil pan had to be dropped, the valve covers have to come off, everything at the front of the engine has to come off, etc.... I spent a bit extra, telling him to change some of the pieces while he was in there. The waterpump was fine, but I had him put on a new fan clutch just in case.

I am frustrated that my car had to sit that long. Really. Three weeks? Come on. He claimed that it would have sat at least that long anywhere I would have taken it. This I doubt.

The most confrontational thing I said to him was after he said the "anger one customer rather than 20" thing. I said "That's great advertising for Duss Brothers."

I have a code reader, so I'll take a gander tonight. It could be completely unrelated.

By the way, has anyone noticed that when their battery is disconnected, then reconnected, the pixels on the instrument cluster display come back?

chromius
12-11-2007, 09:45 AM
I am frustrated that my car had to sit that long. Really. Three weeks? Come on. He claimed that it would have sat at least that long anywhere I would have taken it. This I doubt.



Yeah, there is no way. I've seen complete engine rebuilds take less than 3 weeks. 3 weeks for 12hrs labour. That means the car sat with no work being done for like 100+hours. That wouldn't happen with most other shops.

bmdbley'sBro
12-11-2007, 01:22 PM
in the context of mechanics

I called some place recently they said they could book me in 1.5 weeks later
1yr back approx, took a 'good reputable' shop on bentley ave 2weeks to do my brakes on a jetta.

bike shops in the spring 3week, 1 month back log - car shops in the winter: snow tires keep people waiting

I heard on the news that there is going to be a shortage of mech's soon, as the older gen retires

1 thing i can tell you is: if your a new customer paying full retail - you get better service..usually :lol

want a 'deal', you'll wait. *sad*

chromius
12-11-2007, 01:37 PM
in the context of mechanics

I called some place recently they said they could book me in 1.5 weeks later


See, that's alright though. If they know they have a back log and are at least scheduling their work. That's better then saying, oh yeah we can take you today, and then have your car sit there for 3 weeks.


1yr back approx, took a 'good reputable' shop on bentley ave 2weeks to do my brakes on a jetta
:eek: That's inexcusable...they won't be reputable for very long if they do stuff like that. 2weeks for a 1-2hr job, something's not right there.

As expensive as either Rudy or the dealer is, when they make an appointment, you know they aren't taking more work than they can handle, and you'll have your car back same day. A good shop knows how long a job takes and will schedule all their appointments accordingly. I'd be a much happier customer if they told me I couldn't get an appointment for 2 weeks, but when I had my appointment my car was back to me on the same day, rather then a mech taking too many jobs all at once and having my car sit there for weeks.

With Rudy, I've only ever gone to him for major work, and he always gets the car back to me same day, and more often then not, before noon. He might be expensive, but he knows his shit, and Terry knows how to schedule appointments.

Manimillion
12-11-2007, 02:14 PM
philboski, what do u drive? and what part of barhaven do you live in?

Philboski
12-11-2007, 02:54 PM
whats his contact info, i need a front drive shaft fast!!


Sorry, forgot to post this -- 613-692-1546. He's on Ann Street in Manotick.

Philboski
12-11-2007, 02:58 PM
philboski, what do u drive? and what part of barhaven do you live in?

I drive a '97 540I6, Dark Oxford Green on green leather (hence the Hulk thing for my avatar). On hundred and seventy-five thousand kms on the clock.

Why? Wanna buy it? :D

I live near Greenbank and Fallowfield.

Philboski
12-11-2007, 03:03 PM
With Rudy, I've only ever gone to him for major work, and he always gets the car back to me same day, and more often then not, before noon. He might be expensive, but he knows his shit, and Terry knows how to schedule appointments.

Another advantage for me would be that one of the techs at Duss Bros. is lifelong friends with the guy who sold me the BMW, so he would know the car. He's a huge guy (and coming from me, that means something) named John, IIRC.

And the expense is relative -- I got a clutch quote from Duss for $1000 including all the "while we're in there" bits. I consider that very fair. hell, my door handle cost me $400! *shiner*

chromius
12-11-2007, 03:33 PM
Another advantage for me would be that one of the techs at Duss Bros. is lifelong friends with the guy who sold me the BMW, so he would know the car. He's a huge guy (and coming from me, that means something) named John, IIRC.

And the expense is relative -- I got a clutch quote from Duss for $1000 including all the "while we're in there" bits. I consider that very fair. hell, my door handle cost me $400! *shiner*

$1000 is pretty reasonable. You could probably even knock that down to $800 if you supply the parts.

And note to self...don't break door handle. $400 ouch.:eek:

Philboski
12-11-2007, 05:39 PM
Yeah, they're cheap potmetal that breaks easily. You have the part, add in the labour, painting, and it gets big in a hurry. And it happened last January, so it was a huge pain.

BTW, the codes are the 1174 and 1175, fuel trim adaptation additive in both banks. Not a new code for me, so not Todd's fault.

chromius
12-11-2007, 06:10 PM
Ah yes...I've had both those codes. Turned out to be the MAF. If you want to borrow my laptop and check what the Long term fuel trims are reading let me know. Might point you in the right direction for a repair. FYI the car had loads more power after the MAF replacement.*th-up*

carjoe
12-11-2007, 10:39 PM
Wow, guess I'm one of the lucky ones. My mech usually takes me same week, next day if I'm in a jam. Last time I saw him he took me next day, just before the snow hit. Good timing on my part...

Mani, how's the ti treating ya?

Philboski
12-12-2007, 08:08 AM
Ah yes...I've had both those codes. Turned out to be the MAF. If you want to borrow my laptop and check what the Long term fuel trims are reading let me know. Might point you in the right direction for a repair. FYI the car had loads more power after the MAF replacement.*th-up*

Hey thanks for the offer, and I'll take you up on it! How does this work? I was just going to switch back to a paper filter and clean the MAF, but if I can get better infor, I'll take it.

bmdbley'sBro
12-12-2007, 11:45 AM
See, that's alright though. If they know they have a back log and are at least scheduling their work. That's better then saying, oh yeah we can take you today, and then have your car sit there for 3 weeks.
true... was just saying even the smaller shops are getting fcrazy busy.

should open 1 :D


:eek: That's inexcusable...they won't be reputable for very long if they do stuff like that. 2weeks for a 1-2hr job, something's not right there.
in their defence or 'more back story' they took brembo blanks & sent them to a machine shop next door for slotting..
the inexcusable part was them even taking the car before the rotors were ready. work was 100% though

and wasn't as bad as that guy with my 318 in kingston, had it for 60+ days did nothing


As expensive as either Rudy or the dealer is, when they make an appointment, you know they aren't taking more work than they can handle, and you'll have your car back same day. A good shop knows how long a job takes and will schedule all their appointments accordingly. I'd be a much happier customer if they told me I couldn't get an appointment for 2 weeks, but when I had my appointment my car was back to me on the same day, rather then a mech taking too many jobs all at once and having my car sit there for weeks.

With Rudy, I've only ever gone to him for major work, and he always gets the car back to me same day, and more often then not, before noon. He might be expensive, but he knows his shit, and Terry knows how to schedule appointments.
I find a key thing with alot of 'good' shops is the scheduling ...which has nothing to do with the mechs :D

Like terry...she is the Bomb! would duss be duss without her uber reception/ scheduling skillz?

can be the best mech in the world but if you gotta answer your phone every minute or 30 seconds :D

Manimillion
12-13-2007, 12:57 AM
I drive a '97 540I6, Dark Oxford Green on green leather (hence the Hulk thing for my avatar). On hundred and seventy-five thousand kms on the clock.

Why? Wanna buy it? :D

I live near Greenbank and Fallowfield.

I would love to, but I am running out of space at my relatives houses/garages to put my cars lol...

I'll look out for you around for sure, I live in Barhaven as well, around Woodroffe and Prince of Whales.

Philboski
12-13-2007, 07:57 AM
Hey Mani, I just checked out your website. Some nice work!

One car in particular looked familiar to me.....

http://www.formula1x.com/focalspeed/Gallery/frameda/41.jpg

I believe that we have met in the past when my regular ride was a 98 SVT Cobntour (which I still own by the way.) How's Nima doing?

chromius
12-13-2007, 10:38 AM
Hey thanks for the offer, and I'll take you up on it! How does this work? I was just going to switch back to a paper filter and clean the MAF, but if I can get better infor, I'll take it.

Not a problem. It's just a simple OBD2 logger that can log all kinds of data. Just plugs into any laptop through the serial port, and records engine data like RPM, Speed, engine load, throttle position, O2 sensors, long and short fuel trim, coolant temp, MAF readings, engine misfires, ignition advance, etc etc. It's a pretty long list of stuff it records. If you have a Laptop you can use that, or we can use mine and plug it in. Just let me know.

Jamil20
12-13-2007, 10:43 AM
What kind of adapter do you use to interface with the car? Is it an 'IBus' interface?

Is the software called 'Carsoft' too? I've heard something to this effect in passing before, but slightly intrigued now that you mention it.

chromius
12-13-2007, 10:54 AM
The interface to the car is just a standard J1962 ODB2 connector that plugs into the plug under the driver's side dash. The interface itself is just a ELM32 based device, that I use some open source software with.

The Carsoft stuff is probably better software but it won't use and ELM32 device, it has to use it's own proprietary interface, which is pretty expensive compared to the ELM stuff.

At some point I'd like to pick up the autoenginuity interface, which connects directly to the Can-bus, and can read all the BMW specific stuff like ABS/DSC codes, Airbag stuff, Body control modules, etc etc. But it's like $300+ so I'm gonna wait on that until I actually need it.

Philboski
12-13-2007, 11:04 AM
Not a problem. It's just a simple OBD2 logger that can log all kinds of data. Just plugs into any laptop through the serial port, and records engine data like RPM, Speed, engine load, throttle position, O2 sensors, long and short fuel trim, coolant temp, MAF readings, engine misfires, ignition advance, etc etc. It's a pretty long list of stuff it records. If you have a Laptop you can use that, or we can use mine and plug it in. Just let me know.


Thanks for the opportunity. What part of town are you in? I need to do some Christmas shopping this weekend, so maybe we can make it part of that trip.

By the way, wrt to codes 1174 and 1175, I found this TSB online:
http://autorepair.about.com/library/faqs/bl648h.htm

chromius
12-13-2007, 11:22 AM
Thanks for the opportunity. What part of town are you in? I need to do some Christmas shopping this weekend, so maybe we can make it part of that trip.

By the way, wrt to codes 1174 and 1175, I found this TSB online:
http://autorepair.about.com/library/faqs/bl648h.htm

I live downtown, but I do all my car work out in Manotick. Those P codes could be a number of things, including air leaks, O2 sensors, or the MAF. But what I've found is that because it's affecting both banks of the engine, it would stand to reason that it's something common to both sides, which narrows it down to either the MAF, or a common vacume leak (CCV, or hose). A gasket leak will usually have a "hissing" noise associated with it at idle, and will affect LTFT at idle more so then off idle. With mine I knew it was my MAF, because after I got those codes, I cleaned the MAF and compared readings. The CEL didn't come back, and the LTFT readings got better. They still wern't perfect though because it was still getting a LTFT of 16%. A new MAF is only $150 so I just decided to replace it anyway, and it brought my LTFT down to a near perfect 0.7%.

Philboski
12-13-2007, 11:26 AM
I live downtown, but I do all my car work out in Manotick. Those P codes could be a number of things, including air leaks, O2 sensors, or the MAF. But what I've found is that because it's affecting both banks of the engine, it would stand to reason that it's something common to both sides, which narrows it down to either the MAF, or a common vacume leak (CCV, or hose). A gasket leak will usually have a "hissing" noise associated with it at idle, and will affect LTFT at idle more so then off idle. With mine I knew it was my MAF, because after I got those codes, I cleaned the MAF and compared readings. The CEL didn't come back, and the LTFT readings got better. They still wern't perfect though because it was still getting a LTFT of 16%. A new MAF is only $150 so I just decided to replace it anyway, and it brought my LTFT down to a near perfect 0.7%.

OK, what is LTFT? Light throttle fuel trim? Just let me know when you want to do this, and I will meet you with MAF cleaner in hand.

As a side note wrt the link I posted, I changed one of the plugs at the end of a vacuum tee at the front of the engine and the idle improved immediately.

chromius
12-13-2007, 11:33 AM
OK, what is LTFT? Light throttle fuel trim? Just let me know when you want to do this, and I will meet you with MAF cleaner in hand.

As a side note wrt the link I posted, I changed one of the plugs at the end of a vacuum tee at the front of the engine and the idle improved immediately.

Long term fuel trim.*th-up*

If your idle got better with a vacuum fitting replacement, then in your case, maybe it is a vacuum leak. But getting these readings might help narrow it down.

Sunday Afternoon would probably be alright for me, if that works for you. Let me know and we can figure out a meeting spot. Maybe a Tim hortons so that coffee can be consumed:)

Jamil20
12-13-2007, 11:38 AM
Adam, man. If you keep putting so much caffeine in to you, eventually you'll turn into Tony. ;)

And I didn't know there was a plug under the driver's side dash. Now I want to go look.

chromius
12-13-2007, 11:41 AM
Adam, man. If you keep putting so much caffeine in to you, eventually you'll turn into Tony. ;)

And I didn't know there was a plug under the driver's side dash. Now I want to go look.

LOL, I don't think I could handle the amount of caffene Tony drinks. I think Monster is like the equivalent of 20 coffee's:D

The Plug under the Dash is on all 96 and newer cars. Should be under a little access panel that reads OBD on it.

Philboski
12-13-2007, 12:23 PM
Long term fuel trim.*th-up*

If your idle got better with a vacuum fitting replacement, then in your case, maybe it is a vacuum leak. But getting these readings might help narrow it down.

Sunday Afternoon would probably be alright for me, if that works for you. Let me know and we can figure out a meeting spot. Maybe a Tim hortons so that coffee can be consumed:)


I can make sunday afternoon work I think. What location works best for you? I am certainly good for meeting at a Tim's.

bmdbley'sBro
12-13-2007, 02:17 PM
Adam, man. If you keep putting so much caffeine in to you, eventually you'll turn into Tony. ;)

.

yes they'll both then have 'Obscene amounts of energy'


typing this as i drink coffee.. :D

*adam let me know when you need those 'extractor bits' back

Jamil20
12-13-2007, 02:21 PM
yes they'll both then have 'Obscene amounts of energy'


typing this as i drink coffee.. :D

*adam let me know when you need those 'extractor bits' back

Haha. I get the reference.

"Mother nature will be like sloooooooow doooooown".

Nascar318is
12-13-2007, 03:23 PM
Hey!!!! No Monster, Since our little trip to NH.. Too much $$ up in Canada for that stuff.

Nice looking contour, Alot better then what mine looked like. I just traded mine in for a Remote Car starter..

chromius
12-14-2007, 09:03 AM
I can make sunday afternoon work I think. What location works best for you? I am certainly good for meeting at a Tim's.

Since you're in Barrhaven, how about the Tim's near Strandherd and Greenbank? say 3:00pm

Philboski
12-14-2007, 09:39 AM
Since you're in Barrhaven, how about the Tim's near Strandherd and Greenbank? say 3:00pm


Works for me. See you there!

Strange note: I had a dream last night that I pulled the MAF and the car still ran fine. Hopefully this was some kind of spooky car geek premonition. :D

bmdbley'sBro
12-14-2007, 06:28 PM
Hey!!!! No Monster, Since our little trip to NH.. Too much $$ up in Canada for that stuff.


ahh yeah i see it in the 7-11's & stuff.. it really is expensive!!

but we're lol'n at that Pun vid on energy drinks -funniest clip in recent memory :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuNxHqwazs


Haha. I get the reference.

"Mother nature will be like sloooooooow doooooown".

and you'll be like fk you as you kick her in the face with your Energy legs!
Agghhhhhh

:D

ecuconnection
12-14-2007, 08:58 PM
ahh yeah i see it in the 7-11's & stuff.. it really is expensive!!

but we're lol'n at that Pun vid on energy drinks -funniest clip in recent memory :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuNxHqwazs




and you'll be like fk you as you kick her in the face with your Energy legs!
Agghhhhhh

:D



haha LOVE IT

chromius
12-16-2007, 02:58 AM
Works for me. See you there!

Strange note: I had a dream last night that I pulled the MAF and the car still ran fine. Hopefully this was some kind of spooky car geek premonition. :D

Check your PM's

Philboski
12-17-2007, 08:08 AM
As an aside to one of the many topics that this post has dealt with, my car died at an intersection today. I couldn't even turn on the hazards. As I got past my initial anger, I realised that no hazards had to mean something was up witht he battery. Sure enough, I opened the trunk, pulled the pane open, and the negative lead was off the battery. Apparently Todd didn't do all that great a job of reconeecting it! :mad:

chromius
12-17-2007, 08:35 AM
As an aside to one of the many topics that this post has dealt with, my car died at an intersection today. I couldn't even turn on the hazards. As I got past my initial anger, I realised that no hazards had to mean something was up witht he battery. Sure enough, I opened the trunk, pulled the pane open, and the negative lead was off the battery. Apparently Todd didn't do all that great a job of reconeecting it! :mad:

:eek: wow, that sucks man. That could have been pretty dangerous. At least it was something easy to fix.

Philboski
12-17-2007, 09:18 AM
:eek: wow, that sucks man. That could have been pretty dangerous. At least it was something easy to fix.

Yes, I would have been pretty embarassed had I called CAA and gone to Duss Brothers. "Yeah, it was your battery. Dumbass."