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ROB89M3
01-14-2003, 12:41 AM
here are some rare pics I found. Don't know if any of you have seen these before.

<img src="http://www.vwot.org/meetings/Aug2000/M3_2.jpg">

<img src="http://www.vwot.org/meetings/Aug2000/M3_3.jpg">

Spartiatis
01-14-2003, 12:42 AM
Sweet car.

Euro_E30
01-14-2003, 12:43 AM
MINT!!!!!!!!*th-up* *th-up*

SpoolinS6
01-14-2003, 12:46 AM
thats one hell of a sweet e30 !:eek:

FastM3
01-14-2003, 01:39 AM
nice randy!!! *th-up*

Ac Schnitzer
01-15-2003, 07:18 AM
Yes, Randy has a very nice e30.*th-up*

EMPOWERD
01-15-2003, 07:28 AM
Thanks Rob, I can't say i've ever seen those. I do remember what event though, it was Dragnights at Cayuga Aug 2000 'cause the car wasn't quite finished at the time.

Jon@Bimmersport
01-15-2003, 09:21 AM
what did it run?

330DTM
01-15-2003, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by E46_lover
what did it run?

I second that, I always wondered what Randy could run on that car for a 1/4mile.

Very interested at 60ft, reaction time and the 1/4 + trap speed.

EMPOWERD
01-15-2003, 01:14 PM
I didn't run that day (it was a car show @ Cayuga) but on a Friday night test and tune without the blower and headwork I ran a 13.84 @102mph.... can't remember my 60ft time, I think it was 2.4sec (a lot of wheelspin). I haven't run the car with the blower, but once everything gets sorted out it shouldn't be a problem hitting 12.2 or 12.0 depending on traction.

330DTM
01-15-2003, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by empowerd
a 13.84 @102mph.... can't remember my 60ft time, I think it was 2.4sec (a lot of wheelspin).

Whow, 2.4sec? Dam you must've had trouble trying to hook up the traction. Must've been those ultra low profile 18"s, no? I wonder if you could hit mid 13s though if you got your 60ft time down to 1.9-2.1 seconds
:)

However, I'm really interested in seeing the results w/the blower and when you get that perfect launch, in addition to spectating it (lot's of fun :P)

Do you know any other owners w/a smilar setup to yours (be it with or without blower) and the 1/4 Mile times they achieved?

ROB89M3
01-15-2003, 01:39 PM
why are you guys still talikn' about 1/4 mile?
these cars are for the road coarses.....:P :P :P

330DTM
01-15-2003, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by ROB89M3
why are you guys still talikn' about 1/4 mile?
these cars are for the road coarses.....:P :P :P

Haha, it's all for curiousity reasons Rob. I love the road courses more than dragging, but I'm the usual Curious George in the neighbourhood!

Cristian330Ci
01-15-2003, 07:22 PM
Hey everybody I'm back!!!:cool:

Yeah!! It's a cool ride that blue bimmer!!!!

I love those rims as well as the roll bar inside the car, but if you think about all the mods under the hood you can only say that it's a perfect ride!!!!!*smoke*

Time ago I saw a video where Randy made donouts with his car: simply amazing. At the end of that video you can see the interior and I noticied about the big tacho on the dashboard; Randy, did you cut off the stock tacho?

Jon@Bimmersport
01-15-2003, 11:38 PM
rob...dont bash our 1/4mile discussion just because you cant beat the average type-r...it might even take U in ur M3!

randy's car would be amazing to watch around a track with those tires...drifting around every corner with smoke kicking up from the tires...and *mw* *mw* *mw*

ROB89M3
01-15-2003, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
randy's car would be amazing to watch around a track with those tires...drifting around every corner with smoke kicking up from the tires...and *mw* *mw* *mw*

You're an idiot ! Seriously... :P
A good race car is not suppose to *drift* around corners on a racetrack.....That will make you lose so much time.

F uck the 1/4 mile. If I want a 1/4 mile car, I'll do up my shitbox CRX to the max !

EMPOWERD
01-16-2003, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by Cristian330Ci
.... At the end of that video you can see the interior and I noticied about the big tacho on the dashboard; Randy, did you cut off the stock tacho?


During the motor conversion I noticed the stock "e" tach wouldn't read far enough to compensate for the much added revs of the 3.2L motor (5000rpm vs. 7000rpm). I bought an Autometer Phantom (w/shiftlight) tach which hooks up to the wiring harness and gives very accurate rpm readings.

thinair
01-16-2003, 04:54 AM
Originally posted by ROB89M3
F uck the 1/4 mile. If I want a 1/4 mile car, I'll do up my shitbox CRX to the max !

Actually in my opinion 1/4 times are decent for benchmarking you and your car, sort of like a dyno run, but cheaper. It offers different info then a dyno run....

Jon@Bimmersport
01-16-2003, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by ROB89M3
You're an idiot ! Seriously... :P
A good race car is not suppose to *drift* around corners on a racetrack.....That will make you lose so much time.

F uck the 1/4 mile. If I want a 1/4 mile car, I'll do up my shitbox CRX to the max !

huh? cant u read? i wasnt posting about his fastest time..u have to be the biggest fag if u wouldnt wanna see randy's car drift around a race track...**** the times...i wanna see it go around turns sideways! you are also the idiot becuase 1/4mile is part of benchmarking your car just like thinair said. randy's car isnt a race car btw...why would a race car have a system, body kit, and paint job ****nuts? his is a show car...dont you like seeing those 1200hp supras come out of the turn with the rear kicked out?

now i know where randy and dave get all pissed from!

GR8 Ride
01-16-2003, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by E46_lover
huh? cant u read? i wasnt posting about his fastest time..u have to be the biggest fag if u wouldnt wanna see randy's car drift around a race track...**** the times...i wanna see it go around turns sideways! you are also the idiot becuase 1/4mile is part of benchmarking your car just like thinair said. randy's car isnt a race car btw...why would a race car have a system, body kit, and paint job ****nuts? his is a show car...dont you like seeing those 1200hp supras come out of the turn with the rear kicked out?

now i know where randy and dave get all pissed from!

I take it you've never been to a *real* racetrack then before, have you Jon?

I can't believe I'm defending Rob on something, but he's right. Drifting is for ricers, and rally drivers....

Drifting on a road course like Mosport means you're highly likely to bend metal on your car....a dry race track is NO PLACE to drift a car. Maybe it might look cool, but while somebody is drifting their 1200 HP Supra or 350 HP E30, I'll be passing them on the inside of the corner!!

1/4 mile isn't part of benchmarking a car, unless 1/4 mile is something you care about. Most BMW's are poor 1/4 mile cars...generally low torque for the weight they carry, suspension design poorly suited for good launches etc. Domestic stick axle cars are much better suited for the 1/4 mile, and the Imports are so light and cheap to modify that they become competitive as well.

With precious few exceptions (the Z06 for example), a car that is setup for the 1/4 mile generally SUCKS on the road course.

Drifting around a corner might seem cool, but when you realize how slow you are going, it starts to suck. When you pull 180 km/h through something like turn 8 at Mosport (not entrance speed, CORNERING speed!), and are accelerating through it, drifting will seem like so much child's play.


Pat

Gamite
01-16-2003, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by GR8 Ride
I take it you've never been to a *real* racetrack then before, have you Jon?

I can't believe I'm defending Rob on something, but he's right. Drifting is for ricers, and rally drivers....

Drifting on a road course like Mosport means you're highly likely to bend metal on your car....a dry race track is NO PLACE to drift a car. Maybe it might look cool, but while somebody is drifting their 1200 HP Supra or 350 HP E30, I'll be passing them on the inside of the corner!!

1/4 mile isn't part of benchmarking a car, unless 1/4 mile is something you care about. Most BMW's are poor 1/4 mile cars...generally low torque for the weight they carry, suspension design poorly suited for good launches etc. Domestic stick axle cars are much better suited for the 1/4 mile, and the Imports are so light and cheap to modify that they become competitive as well.

With precious few exceptions (the Z06 for example), a car that is setup for the 1/4 mile generally SUCKS on the road course.

Drifting around a corner might seem cool, but when you realize how slow you are going, it starts to suck. When you pull 180 km/h through something like turn 8 at Mosport (not entrance speed, CORNERING speed!), and are accelerating through it, drifting will seem like so much child's play.


Pat

I always wondered about that... thanks.

Jon@Bimmersport
01-16-2003, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by GR8 Ride
I take it you've never been to a *real* racetrack then before, have you Jon?

I can't believe I'm defending Rob on something, but he's right. Drifting is for ricers, and rally drivers....

Drifting on a road course like Mosport means you're highly likely to bend metal on your car....a dry race track is NO PLACE to drift a car. Maybe it might look cool, but while somebody is drifting their 1200 HP Supra or 350 HP E30, I'll be passing them on the inside of the corner!!

1/4 mile isn't part of benchmarking a car, unless 1/4 mile is something you care about. Most BMW's are poor 1/4 mile cars...generally low torque for the weight they carry, suspension design poorly suited for good launches etc. Domestic stick axle cars are much better suited for the 1/4 mile, and the Imports are so light and cheap to modify that they become competitive as well.

and Pat, you race your car for the best times possible...but you cant tell me you dont like drifting and such even while not on the track? from randy's video you can tell he likes to play with the E30

With precious few exceptions (the Z06 for example), a car that is setup for the 1/4 mile generally SUCKS on the road course.

Drifting around a corner might seem cool, but when you realize how slow you are going, it starts to suck. When you pull 180 km/h through something like turn 8 at Mosport (not entrance speed, CORNERING speed!), and are accelerating through it, drifting will seem like so much child's play.


Pat

pat...ok, maybe im wrong on some part...but cant i have my own opinion that i would like to see randy's car drift? i dont like being called an idiot, and i was only trying to bug rob..maybe get him to run my cousin's car (civic gsr). i never meant for randy to race it for lap times...maybe he can if he wants to, but it'd LOOK kool to see his car doing drifts, whats wrong with me saying that? i dont see the big deal.

i have been to mosport, and have seen the track...but never knew it would do damage to the tires? i thought it would only do tire wear...anyways, thanks for not resorting to calling me an IDIOT..maybe some of the other members would learn that too? (rob89m3)

ROB89M3
01-16-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
..maybe get him to run my cousin's car (civic gsr).

Sure,but not on the street (it's idiotic).Tell him to come to Mosport April 13-14,and THEN we'll see what happens... *wave*

mkgino
01-16-2003, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by ROB89M3
Sure,but not on the street (it's idiotic).Tell him to come to Mosport April 13-14,and THEN we'll see what happens... *wave*

lol, I hope you lose.......:P

Soldo
01-16-2003, 06:28 PM
i as well hope he gets RAPED beyond belief!!!!!
i love to see TALKERS get ROCKED!!!
its always reminds me of the TORTOISE and the HARE story!!!
:D :D :D

Gamite
01-16-2003, 08:06 PM
actually, I heard rob did quite well at mosport last year..

M50E30
01-16-2003, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by ROB89M3
Sure,but not on the street (it's idiotic).Tell him to come to Mosport April 13-14,and THEN we'll see what happens... *wave*

U R going to race during a driving school? Oh fu@k! I didn't realize you were that stupid....:huh?:

And someone please remind me if I get the chance to bring my E30 to the BMWCC @ Mosport to stay far away from Rob! Don't want him to crash into or me!

ROB89M3
01-16-2003, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by M50E30
U R going to race during a driving school? Oh fu@k! I didn't realize you were that stupid....:huh?:

No it's not a race . But there is passing allowed.... lol

I don't know If I'm going ,if the Vancouver trip goes ahead as planned....

ROB89M3
01-16-2003, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by M50E30
And someone please remind me if I get the chance to bring my E30 to the BMWCC @ Mosport to stay far away from Rob! Don't want him to crash into or me!

Crashing? Speak for yourself.... *hint* *hint* *uzi*

umm,my thread got hijacked again..... From pics of Randy's car to this.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

M50E30
01-16-2003, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by ROB89M3
Crashing? Speak for yourself.... *hint* *hint* *uzi*

umm,my thread got hijacked again..... From pics of Randy's car to this.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You got rocks for brains eh? How could you compare the highway to a racetrack? Besides if it was my fault wouldn't I have been charged? BBLAAAHHHH!!!!! Thats what I thought.

GR8 Ride
01-16-2003, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
pat...ok, maybe im wrong on some part...but cant i have my own opinion that i would like to see randy's car drift? i dont like being called an idiot, and i was only trying to bug rob..maybe get him to run my cousin's car (civic gsr). i never meant for randy to race it for lap times...maybe he can if he wants to, but it'd LOOK kool to see his car doing drifts, whats wrong with me saying that? i dont see the big deal.

i have been to mosport, and have seen the track...but never knew it would do damage to the tires? i thought it would only do tire wear...anyways, thanks for not resorting to calling me an IDIOT..maybe some of the other members would learn that too? (rob89m3)

Jon, I never said you couldn't have your opinion, and I never called you an idiot (that was Rob).

Like I said, drifting *looks cool*, but it's really the slow way around a racetrack. If Randy wants to take his car out to the parking lot and drift around that....fair enough. My comment on drifting has nothing to do with being hard on tires...it's that Mosport will easily take a drift, and make it a big bang! Randy's been there before, and driven Mosport well enough before that he knows it. I highly doubt he would make the attempt to drift around Mosport, especially given the investment he has in that car.

Being to the parking lot at Mosport is a FAR different story than being on the track. When you're on the track, those trees and walls are A LOT CLOSER than you might imagine from the paddock. If you go drifting down turn 2, suddenly those tires will hit the turtles on the outside edge, catch, and launch you straight into the inside wall nose first.

Around turn 3, there is also minimal room for f**k-up, with walls relatively close to the track on both sides. I've seen cars (usually during races and poorly run open lapping days) tag the wall there...

There is nothing wrong with drifting itself....it's cool enough to watch. It's part of the reason I like watching WRC on Speed Channel...some of the best drivers in the world are Rally drivers. In a rally however, it's not likely that somebody is going to pass you in the corners. On a road course, that's what EVERYBODY is trying to do to you...


Pat

GR8 Ride
01-16-2003, 10:51 PM
Oh, and as far as *racing* at Mosport in April...don't bet on it guys. We tend to frown on that quite a bit. The idea is to learn how to handle your car well at high speeds.

The first thing I'll warn you about is that 99% of the drivers on the road know precious little about how to actually *drive* their cars.... and this includes most of the guys here. This isn't to pick on anyone in particular, it's merely an observation based on what I've seen in the past few years. It's not a knock, as I was in the same boat previously as well. One doesn't really realize how bad a driver they are until someone shows them...and then proceeds to teach them what they could be doing better.

Without proper instruction, I'll bet that most of the guys here would have a tough time getting their cars around Mosport (regardless of type, E46 M3 or E30 318is) in less than 2 minutes, and without putting some wheels in the dirt. I know there are a few people here who can and have, but I'll bet it's sub 1%.

The roughly $400 for a weekend with the BMW Club at Mosport is worth every dollar, and you'll learn far more than you would at any street based (or BMW Canada) driving school. You'll also have more fun...


Pat

Jon@Bimmersport
01-17-2003, 01:05 AM
pat, can u pm me with some details about the bmw club thing at mosport? as soon as my bro gets lil smoothie's E30 i want him to go to it...it seems like fun, and going from a 130hp FWD celebrity wagon to a rwd 325is will be a big step especially if hes gonna winter drive it..i'd feel better he knows how to control a car..

EMPOWERD
01-17-2003, 01:16 AM
Jon,

It would be a great idea for James (and anyone else) to join the club and do driving schools... words can't explain how fun they are and how much you learn. Here's a link to some info... but please ACT QUICKLY, the April school is always the one that fills up the fastest (i'd give it 3 more weeks to be sold out).

BMWCC Driver Training... (http://www.trillium-bmwclub.ca/TrilliumBMW/Site.nsf/Public/DriverTraining)

AndreNY
01-17-2003, 01:29 AM
that is one of the hottest E30's, i remember seeing in 2 yrs ago when my car was bone stock, and i was drooling like crazy. If im not mistaken you have new rims now i wonder what they look like.

BTW: This is my first post to this site, i will be here more often, im from NYC but as i can see most of you guys are from Canada, and you appear to be more Euro then the American fellas,

GREAT WEB SITE *th-up* *th-up*

EMPOWERD
01-17-2003, 01:34 AM
Welcome aboard Andre and thanks for the compliments on my car. Is that your car in the sig? It kinda looks like this German car i've seen on E30.de with the rear license plate thing filled. Do you have any more pics of your car? Are you with DTMpower? love to hear more about your ride!

Randy

http://www.2002bmw.com/e30/ay07.jpg

M50E30
01-17-2003, 01:50 AM
Andre,

I also have seen your ride...possibly roadfly? Well hope you post some pics in the rides section!

Dave

RobbiXBMW
01-20-2003, 05:26 PM
I just wan't to say that Randy's E30 is my dream car, I've seen some videos of him and was shocked.. You've done a great job with your e30..