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shimajer
10-08-2007, 05:04 PM
Can someone post pictures of the cars with stretches tires and aggressive offset??

can this be done with any type of rims? is it basically just spacers and thin tires? how safe is this?

thanks in advance

dbworld4k
10-08-2007, 05:05 PM
It's just thin tires on wider rims. I. 215/40/18 on a 18x8.5" rim.

shimajer
10-08-2007, 05:13 PM
but how come the rims actually look so exposed? the rims look as they were sticking out of the fenders a bit.

dbworld4k
10-08-2007, 07:58 PM
Because the tire isn't wide enough to "fill-out" the edges of the rim, hence the term "stretched-tires" :) Basically, you are using undersized tires on the rim(s). Just liek the example above: 215/40/18 would look stretched (and have the edges of the rim showing) vs. a 225/40/18 or a 235/40/18 tire.

My old Pirellis were stretched on the same rims I have now, but the new Generals are not. So it also depends on the manufacturer. If the sidewall has more give and bends easily, the tires will look stretched in comparison to a tire with a much more stiff sidewall.

JMW
10-08-2007, 08:03 PM
mine are stretched

AceOfSpades
10-08-2007, 08:25 PM
but how come the rims actually look so exposed? the rims look as they were sticking out of the fenders a bit.

spacers push the rims outwards.

stretch tires happen when you use small tires on large rims.
safe? some drifters drift with stretch tires.

Axxe
10-08-2007, 08:35 PM
Low offset wheels. The only way to make them work without serious fender work is to run undersized tires. Safe? Ask the resident phautographer ;)

shimajer
10-08-2007, 08:43 PM
qimis right? haha yah his car is sick

JMW
10-08-2007, 09:08 PM
im running 215/ 30/18 on my 9 inch rims

vadim321go
10-08-2007, 09:14 PM
and whats the point of doing this?

PedroBMW
10-08-2007, 09:26 PM
you gotta have wide low offset wheels and some serious slammage. Stretching on an 8" or 8.5" wheel is gay on any newer car.

Vadim- the point is for the look, it looks wicked when done right (like leonards car for a great example). My dream is some ACS type 1 or OZ Mito with some wicked stretch for the street, and a second set of properly sized wheels and tires with r comps for performance.

ZiMMie
10-08-2007, 09:27 PM
shimajer what offset/wide are ur wheels?

shimajer
10-08-2007, 09:37 PM
i forgot the offset exactly. but those should be 38-40 each rim.

19X 8.5 and 19X 9.5

i guess those offsets arent aggressive enough right?

ZiMMie
10-08-2007, 10:29 PM
i dont think they make any 205's in 19's. the smallest is 215 which isnt a stretch on a 8.5.
for the rear, u can go 225/35 which will give u a nice stretch on the 9.5.

as for offset, i dont know much about e46's wheel fitment maybe Shey can guide u on which spacers to get if u get the above tire size.

to pull this off, u car has to be SLAMMED to the floor.

shimajer
10-08-2007, 11:01 PM
thanks for the info. my tires are still quite new.. and also, i find it nice to have Step lip rims for euro look, my rims dont really suit for the look.

Mystikal
10-09-2007, 01:57 AM
im running 215/ 30/18 on my 9 inch rims

Your tires are 215/35/18, and I thought your rims were 8.5" wide. *shiner*

Jay

Gamite
10-09-2007, 02:43 AM
Your tires are 215/35/18, and I thought your rims were 8.5" wide. *shiner*

Jay

pwned?


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a215/Iamzebrahead/water_pwned.jpg

JMW
10-09-2007, 09:13 AM
ye ure right actually
i completely pulled a paul christians and typed that wrong......
yes jay is right...#how ever, i think my rims are 9....
at first i thought they were 8.5 but then someone who originally put tires on my rims said they are 9's
i gotta check it out..regardless im stretched a bit...
i like the look..i just need spacers now and im set...#its fine though since i live in egland...my car is sleeping in sauga...and my tranny is blown..soooo im in no rush

StikiGreenZ
10-09-2007, 09:44 AM
Can someone post a pic of this stretched rim look? I have a hard time picturing it... not sure what everyone means by this...

JMW
10-09-2007, 09:48 AM
http://www.fourtitude.com/news/uploads/Features/001__scaled_600_054.jpg

Axxe
10-09-2007, 10:29 AM
How the hell do you blow a ZF with only 300 RWHP?

NateoriouS
10-09-2007, 10:32 AM
Hey Zimmie,

what tires can i run on my 17" forged M douple spoke..to stretch it out.. *rockout*

.. btw... you're car looks Amazing..! *th-up*

shimajer
10-09-2007, 12:31 PM
i think there are so many 17 tires in different sizes available.. just get the thinnest LOLLL

damn, its pretty hard to stretch tires on the 19s..

SickFinga
10-09-2007, 12:49 PM
Hey Zimmie,

what tires can i run on my 17" forged M douple spoke..to stretch it out.. *rockout*

.. btw... you're car looks Amazing..! *th-up*

What's the point? The only reason people stretch tires is to have wide deep dish rims.

AceOfSpades
10-09-2007, 01:36 PM
Can someone post a pic of this stretched rim look? I have a hard time picturing it... not sure what everyone means by this...

extreme,
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8582/ben2xk4bn3.jpg
not so extreme,
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6757/12803637363861326238jx8.jpg
*wave*

AceOfSpades
10-09-2007, 01:37 PM
What's the point? The only reason people stretch tires is to have wide deep dish rims.

and for a sexxier look*rockout*

NateoriouS
10-09-2007, 02:34 PM
What's the point? The only reason people stretch tires is to have wide deep dish rims.


alright fine then, Deep dish it is.. *th-up*

Boots R
10-09-2007, 02:58 PM
You better stay 5 feet away from any and all curbs and exposed manholes.

NeveR
10-09-2007, 03:29 PM
Jeezus...some people here are a bit misinformed for the reasons behind stretched tires.

a) By stretching the tires your reducing the amount of sidewall flex because, sometimes quite apparently, the sidewall is pulled taut. This can mean a greater contact patch. For drifting, it means less give and so more slide. Just think about it.

b) Tires are expensive as shit. Especially for 9" and wider wheels. Taking a 215 and stretching it is easier on the wallet.

c) Stretching your tires allows you to drop the car even lower. Because your sidewall is no longer taking up all that room. By choosing wheels with low offset (and if need-be, spacers) your forcing the wheels outward and closer/beyond the fender, When you lower the car, geometry changes and will camber in. You wont have to worry about the rim of the fender gouging in to your tires.

d) it looks awesome.

NeveR
10-09-2007, 03:34 PM
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2234638

http://forums.streetfire.net/showthread.php?t=22512

Some googleosity

maxevo
10-09-2007, 03:35 PM
i'm a big fan of Stretched tires infact the 2 previous cars i owned were slammed on BBS Rm's with Stretched tires.

and here is how its done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld5h2LifTz4

a lil tease and to clear some points for some of you guys that are thinking about streched tires. It looks amazing on E30's and E36's but no so much on E46's .... Keep in mind if you planning on Doing Stretched tires your car must be dunked or else you gonna make a fool outa yourself. DO IT RIGHT or DONT DO IT AT ALL.

anyhow here are some examples.


225/35/19 10x19

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/9871/lmwagon9zy.jpg
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/1170/lmwagon26hy.jpg

pic of E30 With BBS Rm's Stretched.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/bmw318ti/euro%20e30/E30-9.jpg

225/40/18 on 9.5x18

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u174/Jevity/BMW/Fotoshoot%201/Bimmer12.jpg

TOO MUCH STRETCH IS OVER KILLING IT AND LOOKS STUPID DONT OVER DO IT ... EXAMPLE Stretching a 205 Tire OVER A 10" Rim.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e90/ddg60/4.jpg

Here is an Example of an E46 with 225/35/19 in the rear and 215/40/19 in the front rear is 19x10 front is 19x8.5 with spacers and rolled fenders.

http://www.felgen-man.de/zuverkaufen/M3-Autobahn/M3-2.jpg

Here is an E36 with 235's on a 10 Wheel .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/JTfireandrain/Car_at_show_003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/JTfireandrain/Car_at_show_002.jpg


Here is an example of slight strech but nothing extreme 275's on a 10.5

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/BimmerDawg/Craig%20Geordie%20Wagon/DSC_0045.jpg?t=1172415005

IF you have any questions regarding tire stretch feel free to pm me and i will answer your questions.....

cheers.

Boots R
10-09-2007, 03:43 PM
Jeezus...some people here are a bit misinformed for the reasons behind stretched tires.

a) By stretching the tires your reducing the amount of sidewall flex because, sometimes quite apparently, the sidewall is pulled taut. This can mean a greater contact patch. For drifting, it means less give and so more slide. Just think about it.

b) Tires are expensive as shit. Especially for 9" and wider wheels. Taking a 215 and stretching it is easier on the wallet.

c) Stretching your tires allows you to drop the car even lower. Because your sidewall is no longer taking up all that room. By choosing wheels with low offset (and if need-be, spacers) your forcing the wheels outward and closer/beyond the fender, When you lower the car, geometry changes and will camber in. You wont have to worry about the rim of the fender gouging in to your tires.

d) it looks awesome.

Good for drifting. Bad for handling.

It also makes the ride stiffer, because of the stiffer sidewall, and the increased tire pressure.

maxevo
10-09-2007, 03:43 PM
NOTE YOU DO NOTT I REPEAT DO NOT NEED DEEP DISH RIMS TO GET A STRETCH EFFECT BUT IT WILL DEFENATLY HELP

shimajer this is for you

you say your rims are 9.5x19 in the back and 8.5x19 in the front and you want a clear strech look nothing extreme i would go with

225/35/19 for your rear
215/35/19 for your front

with spacers and i would recommand you pull your fenders or you will rub.

here is a clean strech look for your car check it out .

Here is a friend of mine's , 17x10, ET 9 235/40 17x8.5 ET 8 215/40. Note the slight pull of the fenders. PERFECT STRECH


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/Tharding/rear.jpg

its a clean euro stretch nothing over done.

hope it helped you.

europrince
10-09-2007, 03:44 PM
good luck if you kiss a curb or hit a nice pot hole ;)

i think performance and safety are much more important than a 'look'
we're talking about bmws, not cadillac devilles.

JMW
10-09-2007, 04:10 PM
good luck if you kiss a curb or hit a nice pot hole ;)

i think performance and safety are much more important than a 'look'
we're talking about bmws, not cadillac devilles.





we are not? oh shit im on the wrong forums
i thought this was max-deville

JMW
10-09-2007, 04:11 PM
and **** it....
stretched tires for the win

europrince
10-09-2007, 04:12 PM
we are not? oh shit im on the wrong forums
i thought this was max-deville

hahahaha
as long as you know that tire stretching turns your ultimate driving machine into a poor handling dud, all the power to you *th-up*

JMW
10-09-2007, 04:17 PM
oh im aware:) its more fun that way especially boosted

shimajer
10-09-2007, 04:22 PM
thanks. and i notice USUALLY the wheels have step lips.

Axxe
10-09-2007, 04:52 PM
Stretch needs a step lip to pull it off IMHO. Also, if it's not slammed, stay home.

JMW
10-09-2007, 05:10 PM
ive got step lip...yep yep yep

shimajer
10-09-2007, 05:18 PM
thanks for the info guys!! maxevo, thank you. my rear is tucked a bit. just the front needs some work..

maybe this will be my next project!! and get ready for next bimmercruise and win another trophy =P

thank you so much guys.

shimajer
10-09-2007, 05:27 PM
is there any recommended shops to do this? i've seen videos on youtube. it was different to put the tires on

jeremy

Mystikal
10-09-2007, 06:28 PM
hahahaha
as long as you know that tire stretching turns your ultimate driving machine into a poor handling dud, all the power to you *th-up*

That's a little vague. Extreme stretching has negative tradeoffs, but for a setup like Neil's (215's on a 8.5) the only negative is less curb protection and overall traction. On the other hand, his steering response should be great.

Jay

Mystikal
10-09-2007, 06:28 PM
is there any recommended shops to do this? i've seen videos on youtube. it was different to put the tires on

jeremy

Tires23 in Sauga and Wheels Direct in Scarborough.

Jay

Zim Zimma
10-09-2007, 06:48 PM
That's a little vague. Extreme stretching has negative tradeoffs, but for a setup like Neil's (215's on a 8.5) the only negative is less curb protection and overall traction. On the other hand, his steering response should be great.

Jay

He also has a lot less rubber touching the road. Running a 215 is not nearly as grippy as running the proper 235-245. There would be a pretty noticeable difference.

Mystikal
10-09-2007, 07:14 PM
Uh, that's exactly what I meant by "less overall traction".

Jay

Zim Zimma
10-09-2007, 07:27 PM
I can't read my bad.

Furious
10-09-2007, 10:01 PM
Uh, that's exactly what I meant by "less overall traction".

Jay



shut up Jay and get some 19's on that yellow car of yours immediately

JMW
10-10-2007, 07:51 AM
johnston and magwood on burnumthorpe and mavis are very good..they did my wheels fast and proper..also balanced my wheels again since the other shops did them wrong...and took out all the vibrations my car had at high speeds
cheers

Meegis
10-10-2007, 08:28 AM
So, am I alone in the whole "I think stretch looks dumb as shit" group?

JMW
10-10-2007, 08:33 AM
ure dumb as shit lol kidding
hows flordia?

shimajer
10-10-2007, 11:45 AM
well i think it looks dumb if they are stretched like crazy.. but a little to show the lip would be sick... i think its dumb as shit to have wide tires that totally wrap around the lips.. looks pretty ghey

Boots R
10-10-2007, 11:48 AM
well i think it looks dumb if they are stretched like crazy.. but a little to show the lip would be sick... i think its dumb as shit to have wide tires that totally wrap around the lips.. looks pretty ghey

How does a tire wrap around a lip?

The lip is on the inside.

shimajer
10-10-2007, 12:26 PM
of course the lip is inside, but when you have wide tires, it will cover a bit of the lip.

///M-TRD3
10-10-2007, 01:47 PM
not so extreme,
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6757/12803637363861326238jx8.jpg
*wave*

Anyone know what wheel this is ?? and if so a retailer?

JMW
10-10-2007, 03:15 PM
hammons??

they are hot...
heres a better pic of mine....mae monoblocks..
i now have a carbon fibre m5 lip spoiler..i got rid of the m3 spoiler

AceOfSpades
10-10-2007, 03:27 PM
oz mito/mitto/mitos/mittos i think

Mystikal
10-10-2007, 04:25 PM
oz mito/mitto/mitos/mittos i think

Yes. OZ Mito 3-pc. Pretty pricey, although not quite as bad as Futuras.

Jay

maxevo
10-10-2007, 05:23 PM
wat Jay said they are OZ mito's 3pc... Not a fan of OZ rims for european cars i think they look Retarded specially there "light weight oz ultraleggera"

they suit the JDM rides more.

Meegis
10-10-2007, 06:07 PM
wat Jay said they are OZ mito's 3pc... Not a fan of OZ rims for european cars i think they look Retarded specially there "light weight oz ultraleggera"

they suit the JDM rides more.

I think the ultraleggera's look sick on VW/Audi... Those are euro.

Mystikal
10-10-2007, 08:22 PM
wat Jay said they are OZ mito's 3pc... Not a fan of OZ rims for european cars i think they look Retarded specially there "light weight oz ultraleggera"

they suit the JDM rides more.

OZ is based in Italy, and they've been making wheels predominantly for European cars for years.

This looks JDM?

http://www.felgen-man.de/e36/Coupe/CL911-1.jpg

http://www.felgen-man.de/Treffen/E30/1.jpg

http://www.felgen-man.de/zuverkaufen/OZ/OZ4.JPG

Jay

///M-TRD3
10-10-2007, 08:26 PM
OZ is based in Italy, and they've been making wheels predominantly for European cars for years.


http://www.felgen-man.de/e36/Coupe/CL911-1.jpg



I thought thats what they were, I love/want these wheels. Out of curiosity Anyone know if there are direct replica's of them out there?

maxevo
10-10-2007, 08:42 PM
OZ ultraleggera on my Old Ride Lancer (JDM)

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v141/100/41/293000952/n293000952_772896_6302.jpg

not a Fan of them on Euro Cars , I'd prefer BBS over Oz's for euro's ... but thats my preference everyone's different ... Not my taste on Euro's *par-t*

AceOfSpades
10-10-2007, 09:55 PM
thats a ****in sexxy lancer!!!!!*mw*

denisemichel
10-10-2007, 10:20 PM
thats a ****in sexxy lancer!!!!!*mw*

^^^+1, love OZ Euro Rims*mw*

shimajer
10-10-2007, 10:30 PM
ya the lancer looks scary fast

ZiMMie
10-10-2007, 10:36 PM
OZ ultraleggera on my Old Ride Lancer (JDM)

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v141/100/41/293000952/n293000952_772896_6302.jpg

not a Fan of them on Euro Cars , I'd prefer BBS over Oz's for euro's ... but thats my preference everyone's different ... Not my taste on Euro's *par-t*

u went totally offtopic when posted that lancer.
when u said JDM, this is what i pictured.

http://members.shaw.ca/Prelude_2_NV/cruise01.jpg
and
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/196/497645296_1bcfae8a12_b.jpg


And also who every own that lancer have a very bad taste in wheel so do u.
here is what a proper lancer suppose to look lke.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l263/h_zimara/hzimara158.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l263/h_zimara/hzimara142.jpg


Next time read the title of the thread.

shimajer
10-10-2007, 10:52 PM
thanks for the pics zimmie.. wow now i really really want stretch tires! hahahaa

JMW
10-10-2007, 11:15 PM
+1 zimmie

maxevo
10-10-2007, 11:30 PM
i think the lancer is perfect on the wheels super light ultra , it has won many trophies in shows , and these pictures are euro looks on JDM rides which Look retarded, stretch tires on a civic ROFL .... and that completly shows you dont have a taste with JDM rides at all... just stick to euro and those stretch tires look retarded on all 3 cars , Specially the Evo which is known for on the Dime handling , wtf u gonna do wtih stretch tires on an evo.. and next time u wana post regarding topic please indicate tire sizes for strech dont only post pictures of "JDM"'s lol.



u went totally offtopic when posted that lancer.
when u said JDM, this is what i pictured.

http://members.shaw.ca/Prelude_2_NV/cruise01.jpg
and
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/196/497645296_1bcfae8a12_b.jpg


And also who every own that lancer have a very bad taste in wheel so do u.
here is what a proper lancer suppose to look lke.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l263/h_zimara/hzimara158.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l263/h_zimara/hzimara142.jpg


Next time read the title of the thread.

Mystikal
10-10-2007, 11:37 PM
i think the lancer is perfect on the wheels super light ultra , it has won many trophies in shows , and these pictures are euro looks on JDM rides which Look retarded, stretch tires on a civic ROFL .... and that completly shows you dont have a taste with JDM rides at all... just stick to euro and those stretch tires look retarded on all 3 cars , Specially the Evo which is known for on the Dime handling , wtf u gonna do wtih stretch tires on an evo.. and next time u wana post regarding topic please indicate tire sizes for strech dont only post pictures of "JDM"'s lol.

I dunno, the stretched tires thing has been huge all over Asia for years, including Japan. And that Evo would not only have "on the dime" handling but be extremely twitchy/super-responsive. Such is the result of decreasing the centerline of the wheel and stretched tires.

But I'll let you two argue it out.

Jay

shimajer
10-10-2007, 11:42 PM
bak to stretch tires, yay!

Boots R
10-10-2007, 11:50 PM
Whatever you do, PLEASE stretch the tires if you are going to run a wide rim.





http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4928/ricer1uf4.jpg

ZiMMie
10-11-2007, 12:22 AM
i think the lancer is perfect on the wheels super light ultra , it has won many trophies in shows , and these pictures are euro looks on JDM rides which Look retarded, stretch tires on a civic ROFL .... and that completly shows you dont have a taste with JDM rides at all... just stick to euro and those stretch tires look retarded on all 3 cars , Specially the Evo which is known for on the Dime handling , wtf u gonna do wtih stretch tires on an evo.. and next time u wana post regarding topic please indicate tire sizes for strech dont only post pictures of "JDM"'s lol.


Its a fact and everyone know it, lighter wheels give u better performance in braking, cornering, acceleration etc. And its also a fact that when u say euro look, the first thing that comes to a car enthusiast head its a very low offsett wheels which comes very usually sit either flush or pokes out the fender. [If u don't believe me google "euro look" and what the first pic. u see :) ]
Which makes the car looks and HANDLE better because of the wider overall stance.

and its also a fact that most people that stretch/go for EXTREME euro look do it just for the looks and has extra set of wheel for track/hard driving (If they push their car that hard)

all those car i posted if they were to enter a show with your car, u wont even stance a chance of getting a trophies. Especially that EVO since u will be in the same class.

As for stretch tires looking retard on JDM shows how bad your taste is as a car enthusiast which is very very sad for a person like you that drive a BMW.

ZiMMie
10-11-2007, 12:25 AM
Whatever you do, PLEASE stretch the tires if you are going to run a wide rim.





http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4928/ricer1uf4.jpg

I bet u couldn't catch him in the corners :P

Boots R
10-11-2007, 12:42 AM
I bet u couldn't catch him in the corners :P

:o

5 dollars says i'll just do donuts in the parking lot, because I can. :P