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jstalin
10-02-2007, 01:26 PM
I like...

M3 four-door
Reader snaps four-door M3 undergoing tests in Germany
25th September 2007

http://www.evo.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_446/car_photo_223115_7.jpg

Confirmation of the four-door M3 comes from reader Chris Hyman, who spotted this lightly disguised saloon with sunroof (hence a steel roof) at the Nurburgring. Expect the car to go on sale in the UK early in 2008. BMW still hasnít confirmed whether there will be a Touring version of the M3, but that now seems almost certain.

Boots R
10-02-2007, 02:01 PM
Sedans aren't real m3's

europrince
10-02-2007, 02:05 PM
Sedans aren't real m3's

Sorry bro, but that's ignorant. Its essentially the same car.

e30bim
10-02-2007, 02:16 PM
Car : Road

Boots : Ignorant

Blades
10-02-2007, 02:26 PM
M3 = sports car

sports car = 2 doors

M3 sedan thus cannot be a sports car.

M3 = luxury sport.

///MAC
10-02-2007, 02:30 PM
well put!!

europrince
10-02-2007, 02:30 PM
sports car = 2 doors

M3 sedan thus cannot be a sports car.


says who? do you guys make this stuff up on the fly?

Boots R
10-02-2007, 02:37 PM
Car : Road

Boots : Ignorant

Did you pay up yet? Or still being a Keyboard Cowboy?

jstalin
10-02-2007, 02:39 PM
M3 = sports car

sports car = 2 doors

M3 sedan thus cannot be a sports car.

M3 = luxury sport.

Technically, the real definition of a true sports car is a high performance 2 seater. So only the z series should be considered sports cars.

But, if you consider the m3 coupe a sports car then how can you say a sedan is not? They both have back seats.

e30bim
10-02-2007, 02:42 PM
Did you pay up yet? Or still being a Keyboard Cowboy?

I'm a cowboy and I go bareback, that explains why you're going to have a new little brother soon! Hahaha

europrince
10-02-2007, 02:43 PM
Technically, the real definition of a true sports car is a high performance 2 seater. So only the z series should be considered sports cars.

But, if you consider the m3 coupe a sports car then how can you say a sedan is not? They both have back seats.

what a burn!

europrince
10-02-2007, 02:43 PM
I'm a cowboy and I go bareback, that explains why you're going to have a new little brother soon! Hahaha

grow up

Boots R
10-02-2007, 02:47 PM
I'm a cowboy and I go bareback, that explains why you're going to have a new little brother soon! Hahaha

My mom died a few years ago, but it's comforting to know you're a necropheliac.

niks325i
10-02-2007, 02:58 PM
Sedans aren't real m3's

My buddy's twin-screw supercharged M3/4 begs to differ!*rockout*

Nik

SickFinga
10-02-2007, 05:19 PM
M3 = sports car

sports car = 2 doors

M3 sedan thus cannot be a sports car.

M3 = luxury sport.

Sedan and a coupe e36 share identical chassis. They the same car with a different skin. So if you think m3 coupe is a sports car, then sedan m3 is a sports car as well.

propr'one
10-02-2007, 05:21 PM
then why did bmw call it a luxury sport sedan?

Boots R
10-02-2007, 05:24 PM
Sedan and a coupe e36 share identical chassis. They the same car with a different skin. So if you think m3 coupe is a sports car, then sedan m3 is a sports car as well.

Sports car Chassis, Luxury Sedan body.

Therefore, it's a Luxury Sport.

SickFinga
10-02-2007, 05:33 PM
then why did bmw call it a luxury sport sedan?

What did they call M3 coupe?

saix
10-02-2007, 05:35 PM
What did they call M3 coupe?

sex on wheels

propr'one
10-02-2007, 05:39 PM
What did they call M3 coupe?

a luxury sport coupe.


a z06 is a sports car.

saix
10-02-2007, 05:42 PM
a luxury sport coupe.


a z06 is a sports car.

Nah, that's orgy on wheels.

and a ferrari is bukkake on wheels~

SickFinga
10-02-2007, 05:44 PM
a luxury sport coupe.


a z06 is a sports car.

So why were you disagreeing with me?

I was replying to Blades' comment that if he considers M3 coupe a sports car, then Sedan should be the same thing.

SickFinga
10-02-2007, 05:55 PM
M3 = sports car

sports car = 2 doors

M3 sedan thus cannot be a sports car.

M3 = luxury sport.

Also, you say M3 = Luxury sport. Luxury sport what?? Jeans? Shoes?
So you mean M3 Sedan = Luxury Sports Car.

Now, what makes a car luxury? Brand, interior. Since coupe and sedan got pretty much the same interior, M3 coupe is a luxury car as well.
So m3 coupe and m3 sedan are both Luxury Sports Car.


A better question is, What make a car a sports car? (asked by BigD a while ago, http://maxbimmer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64925 ).

I'm pretty sure that marketing department makes a car a sports car.

Ant118
10-02-2007, 06:00 PM
M3 Sedans are better handling than the M3 Coupe. They are both GT cars if you dont want to call them Sports cars.

denisemichel
10-02-2007, 06:03 PM
4dr M3's look sexy, fast and luxrious!

JunzieB
10-02-2007, 06:30 PM
Nah, that's orgy on wheels.

and a ferrari is bukkake on wheels~

Agreed*mw*

Boots R
10-02-2007, 07:08 PM
M3 Sedans are better handling than the M3 Coupe.

Proof?

propr'one
10-02-2007, 07:29 PM
^^its true, they have more structural rigidity

Quack
10-02-2007, 07:33 PM
^^^ yup, because of the B-piller

propr'one
10-02-2007, 07:35 PM
pillar*

Quack
10-02-2007, 07:40 PM
pillar*


screw you, you are so dead, infact I'll bet you $1000 that you are so dead*uzi* *uzi* *uzi* *uzi* *uzi*

saix
10-02-2007, 08:03 PM
screw you, you are so dead, infact I'll bet you $1000 that you are so dead*uzi* *uzi* *uzi* *uzi* *uzi*

wish someone would say that to e30bim...oh wait, he doesn't pay up.

JMW
10-02-2007, 08:10 PM
e30 bim..loves the rim +1

i dont even kno the issue i just wanted to rhyme that

spoony_prelude
10-02-2007, 08:10 PM
then how come insurance considers almost anything 2 door a sports car? a buddy of mine had an old ass sentra as a winter beater, and insurance was higher then his e36 325 4dr???

spoony_prelude
10-02-2007, 08:11 PM
e30 bim..loves the rim +1

i dont even kno the issue i just wanted to rhyme that

dude your cars so sexy, seen it a few times, but not for a long time!

STALKER
10-02-2007, 09:14 PM
I like it.
I especially like the more coupe like front end of the 4 door M3.

Blades
10-02-2007, 09:19 PM
So why were you disagreeing with me?

I was replying to Blades' comment that if he considers M3 coupe a sports car, then Sedan should be the same thing.


it isnt .. then a 7 series should be a sports car and anything else by your standards should be a sports car.

The fact that they made another m3 sedan is a disgrace .. now an m5 i understand but why bother with the m3's to make them 4 door luxury sport cars

Blades
10-02-2007, 09:21 PM
then how come insurance considers almost anything 2 door a sports car? a buddy of mine had an old ass sentra as a winter beater, and insurance was higher then his e36 325 4dr???

thank you!! tell it to sickfinga to figure it out now

europrince
10-02-2007, 10:33 PM
thank you!! tell it to sickfinga to figure it out now

the insurance industry doesn't make the cars, so who are they to tell the manufacturers what to classify them as. insurance companies have their own classifications for their own purposes. this insurance argument is irrelevant. they consider a mid 90's 2 door sunbird a sports car. oh, and God forbid you buy this shit box in red, because then it really is a sports car LOL

europrince
10-02-2007, 10:36 PM
it isnt .. then a 7 series should be a sports car and anything else by your standards should be a sports car.

The fact that they made another m3 sedan is a disgrace .. now an m5 i understand but why bother with the m3's to make them 4 door luxury sport cars

so, what is the difference between a sports car and a luxury sports car? Corvettes have leather, GPS and heated seats. I guess they are luxury sports cars, as opposed to sports cars, because they have luxury features.

AceOfSpades
10-02-2007, 10:46 PM
Sedan and a coupe e36 share identical chassis. They the same car with a different skin. So if you think m3 coupe is a sports car, then sedan m3 is a sports car as well.

can't 2 cars have identical chassis but different bodies?
i'm not trying to *uzi* anyone. i think i've heard sentenses like those " the chassis of that car is based on the chassis of car X"

Blades
10-03-2007, 12:23 AM
so, what is the difference between a sports car and a luxury sports car? Corvettes have leather, GPS and heated seats. I guess they are luxury sports cars, as opposed to sports cars, because they have luxury features.

there 2 DOOR!!!

the difference is 4 doors and 2 doors .. that was the what the whole discussion was about how are you lost already?

Blades
10-03-2007, 12:24 AM
the insurance industry doesn't make the cars, so who are they to tell the manufacturers what to classify them as. insurance companies have their own classifications for their own purposes. this insurance argument is irrelevant. they consider a mid 90's 2 door sunbird a sports car. oh, and God forbid you buy this shit box in red, because then it really is a sports car LOL

I would hardly consider it one but a Z24 is.

Blades
10-03-2007, 12:27 AM
I think Wikipedia explains the differences the best yet I dont agree with it being a 2 seater as porsches are not 2 seaters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_car

SickFinga
10-03-2007, 12:49 AM
then how come insurance considers almost anything 2 door a sports car? a buddy of mine had an old ass sentra as a winter beater, and insurance was higher then his e36 325 4dr???

Insurance companies do not consider a 2 door car a sports car. Also the difference between a sedan and a coupe is very little. I asked my insurance company what's the difference between 4 door and 2 door m3. It was $7 a month extra for coupe. The reason? It is harder to pull your body out of a back seat of a 2 door car.

SickFinga
10-03-2007, 12:53 AM
it isnt .. then a 7 series should be a sports car and anything else by your standards should be a sports car.

What do you mean by "7 series should be a sports car and anything else by your standards should be a sports car."
It just doesn't make sense.




The fact that they made another m3 sedan is a disgrace .. now an m5 i understand but why bother with the m3's to make them 4 door luxury sport cars

Are you saying that M3 coupe is not luxury sports car?

SickFinga
10-03-2007, 12:57 AM
can't 2 cars have identical chassis but different bodies?
i'm not trying to *uzi* anyone. i think i've heard sentenses like those " the chassis of that car is based on the chassis of car X"

Yes, it can. The difference though is that E36 M3 coupe and sedan has identical drive train, suspension geometry, etc.

Ant118
10-03-2007, 01:02 AM
Proof?

The flex point on the 4-door is in the center of the car. On the Coupe its right in the middle of the door. Also the 4-door has more of a swept back front windsheld. Hence on the track can achieve a higher top speed and sticks to the road better. Kev, put a 2 door E36 and a 4-door E36 side by side and look. Why do you think that the E36 M3 GTR was a 4 Door?

Boots R
10-03-2007, 01:13 AM
The flex point on the 4-door is in the center of the car. On the Coupe its right in the middle of the door. Also the 4-door has more of a swept back front windsheld. Hence on the track can achieve a higher top speed and sticks to the road better. Kev, put a 2 door E36 and a 4-door E36 side by side and look. Why do you think that the E36 M3 GTR was a 4 Door?

Well, that does make sense.




Even though I thought m3 GTR was 2 door.
http://galeria.forocoches.com/data/500/BMW_M3_GTR_ADAC_GT_Cup_1993_02.jpg

SickFinga
10-03-2007, 01:47 AM
They used both

http://ferraria.free.fr/Car%20Pictures/BMW/ptg_00cut.JPG

JMW
10-03-2007, 06:50 AM
dude your cars so sexy, seen it a few times, but not for a long time!

thanks man...
i live in england now..so my cars sleeping/ gettin shit donzo...will be ready in the summer:)

tominizer
10-03-2007, 08:39 AM
Anyone ever watching Touring Car racing !?!?!? Four Doors.

Anyways, who cares. Both can be awesome............ but it's easier to hit it in the back seat of a four door............. you can take your good friends in a 4 door............. carry more junk in a four door........... hawt chicks mistake you for a responsible caring family type in a four door and swoon that shiate................ four doors are quicker to flip................. cops don't hound you as much in a four door....................... list goes on and on and on.

europrince
10-03-2007, 09:45 AM
Anyone ever watching Touring Car racing !?!?!? Four Doors.

Anyways, who cares. Both can be awesome............ but it's easier to hit it in the back seat of a four door............. you can take your good friends in a 4 door............. carry more junk in a four door........... hawt chicks mistake you for a responsible caring family type in a four door and swoon that shiate................ four doors are quicker to flip................. cops don't hound you as much in a four door....................... list goes on and on and on.

exactly! i can't believe this worthless argument is going on for a couple days now. who cares what you guys think about the M3 four door. BMW will produce it and it will sell very well. Deal with it!

2slow2race
10-03-2007, 09:46 AM
i would take a 4 door m3 over the 2 door in a second!

Boots R
10-03-2007, 10:02 AM
LOL by the way, I was joking when I said 4 door m3's aren't real m3's.
















p.s. coupes are sexier than sedans.