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talltorontoguy
07-25-2007, 02:46 AM
After having the parts sitting in my shop for over a year, I finally finished the plastic bumper conversion and installation of Eurostyle's MtechII goodies and Infinity lip. It was no small feat on a cabby, which has larger rockers, and no rear apron to attach the mtech apron to.

For those with an early model doing a plastic bumper conversion, the rear apron has to be attached to the bumper. I had to do some fabrication to make it work, which included trimming the top lip of apron to make it fit flat with the bottom of the bumper, screwing the two together from the inside, making brackets at the ends to stop lateral movement, and fibreglassing the two parts together on the inside. It was a pain in the ass but it came out "ok".

This was my first time ever doing any fabrication or painting... I should have blocked the apron when I prepped it for paint as you can see some undulation in it if you look carefully. Fil's product is very good so there isn't any obvious issue, just poor prep on my part. The car will be painted later this year so this is a temporary measure; it will be tidied up when it gets resprayed.

There's lots of details yet to finish and I know it's far from perfect, but I like it. Next up is the M30 swap...

Mods so far:

- 5 speed conversion
- H&R / Bilstein suspension
- z3 SSk
- E46 M3 RSM
- Personalized gauge faces
- Infinity Components, alpine head, 10" Sub
- 4300k HID conversion
- 17" Wheels w/215-40-17 tires
- Deleted side markers
- Smoked front indicators
- Plastic bumper conversion
- Eurostyle mtechII rear apron
- Eurostyle mtechII side skirts
- Eurostyle infinity lip

BEFORE

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/E30Convertible_20070319_058.jpg

AFTER

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/VertFront.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/VertDSFront.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/VertPSSide.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/VertDSSide.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/VertPSRear.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/VertDSRear.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/VertCluster.jpg

Luke318is
07-25-2007, 03:56 AM
Nice cab man.

jeremy
07-25-2007, 08:00 AM
just get some different rims, lower it, exhaust and you're laughing! ...i think zimmie has some bbs rs replica wheels for sale..

jeremy
07-25-2007, 08:04 AM
ps...what's written on the gauge faces?

talltorontoguy
07-25-2007, 08:26 AM
Car is already lowered... I could slam it, but would make it unrealistic as a driver. May remove the spring pads on front end to get a happy medium.

Rims are something I'm considering upgrading, but for the moment happy with what I have - they're different.

Exhaust - needs mods but doing an M30 swap in near future so holding off on any investment there as it will be replaced at that time.

86coupe30
07-25-2007, 08:59 AM
nice looking car man good job on the swap.. i really wanna do this to my 86 but im not sure if i can find valences for a decent price

Loozen_it
07-25-2007, 12:28 PM
Very nice talltorontoguy!!! Nice work.. looks awesome. I was wanting to see an e30 finished and fitted with eurostyle's kit. Looks like a good quality product that eurostyle offers.
May I ask how much the plastic conversion cost you all up?

T.Dot_E30
07-25-2007, 02:55 PM
Awsome work on the rear valence man. Best mounting of that rear valence i've seen.

You don't happen to have any pics of the inside to show how you attached the two?

talltorontoguy
07-25-2007, 03:04 PM
No sorry, no pictures of the inside of the apron.

Basically trimmed the upper edge of apron back so that it sits just outside the lip on the inside edge of the rear bumper, then drilled and screwed the two together with self tapping screws along the long side of the bumper. For the sides that wrap around the quarter panels, I clamped the two pieces together and fiberglassed them. I also made a metal bracket that holds the two together to reinforce the fibreglass.

Obviously all of this has to be done off the car.

Willy
07-25-2007, 05:12 PM
No sorry, no pictures of the inside of the apron.

Basically trimmed the upper edge of apron back so that it sits just outside the lip on the inside edge of the rear bumper, then drilled and screwed the two together with self tapping screws along the long side of the bumper. For the sides that wrap around the quarter panels, I clamped the two pieces together and fiberglassed them. I also made a metal bracket that holds the two together to reinforce the fibreglass.

Obviously all of this has to be done off the car.


hey talltorontoguy

did you do the work yourself or was it done at a shop? if at a shop how much if you don't mind me asking and if you did it yourself do you anna do mine:D.

good looking job btw.

W

dazzkid88
07-25-2007, 07:13 PM
Wow holy sheit... I guess theres hope for my sorry ass bumper after all!

Good question: how much did it spring you? Hopefully its a shop that did it for you that I could also visit...

Mikeee46coup
07-25-2007, 07:30 PM
*th-up* *th-up* Looks great bro, You know I have near to sexual feelings for AW E30's *love*

dazzkid88
07-25-2007, 08:49 PM
I notcied that you have the windows tinted. What did you do to the rear plastic one? I was contemplating tinting my windows too but I thought it'd look stupid with an ugly greenish rear window.

Eurostyle
07-25-2007, 08:59 PM
Looks HOT!*th-up* The only thing i would absolutly change is the black trim over the skirt (or paint it) becaus it does not match with anything, and it looks like you have 2 sets of door moldings!:idea:

talltorontoguy
07-25-2007, 10:20 PM
Thanks guys... means a lot. This car has been a work in progress for 2 years. You wouldn't believe how much effort has gone into it so far.

RE: who did it and how much?

While I can afford to pay someone to do the work, I have purposely tried to do the majority of the work on my own with the help of my long time girlfriend, who (luckily for me) likes to work on my E34 and E30 with me. That way I get the satisfaction of saying "I did that".

This was my first time doing any painting or fabrication like that. I actually built a homemade "poor man's" downdraft spray booth for this project inside my garage. Made of heavy plastic (wrapped the whole room), 2 box fans, a lot of furnace filters, and florescent lights from the surplus store. Then had the paint mixed and sprayed it myself with an HVLP spray gun. Wet sanded 1000/1200/1500, then heavy cut polish, then polish, then swirl remover, etc.

Re: how long?

The preparation of the bumpers and Eurostyle parts took me about a week of nights. (fill, sand, prime, repeat, etc). There was some trial and error, and a few disasters with learning to spray which required resanding etc.

The preparation of the car, removal of bumpers, and original front valence, slotting the rear bumper shock mounting holes took most of a Saturday.

The fabrication /grafting of the rear valence onto the bumper took a full night (not including prep and paint).

The installation of the front valence, front bumper, lip, lights, moldings, plates, side skirts, rear apron and some touch up painting took us 1.5 days spread over 3 evenings working methodically (we hadn't ever done something like that before)

Re: the black molding...

I hear you Fil. I get good comments, bad comments. I'm on the fence with it. The car needs contrast that's why I left the bumper moldings and side molding black.... maybe someone can photoshop the lower molding white for me to see what it looks like?

talltorontoguy
07-25-2007, 10:23 PM
Regarding the rear window... mine is not tinted, just the sides, but mine has black roof and dark blue interior so hard to tell.

dazzkid88
07-26-2007, 10:08 PM
I kinda like the double line thing... it's different. I would have thought that you did this on purpose. Looks really good. Just my opinion.

Eurostyle
07-26-2007, 10:22 PM
*wave*

talltorontoguy
07-26-2007, 11:54 PM
Thanks for the photoshop Fil... I actually like the molding black... think I'll leave it that way for now.

Rod

Manimillion
07-27-2007, 12:22 AM
You need to put some deep dish BBS's and slam it like its HOT!

talltorontoguy
07-27-2007, 11:29 AM
You're right on both counts. I've got staggered style 5's on the E34 and they look awesome - $$$ though. My E34 also sits lower than the E30 as it has sport springs w/no pads.

I'm going to remove the spring pads on the vert and see how it sits, and if it's still not low enough I'll move to H&R race instead of the sports I have now (although they've only got 5,000kms on them).

I've found it very hard to find 4x100 17" wheels in any styles I like, let alone a deep dish BBS. Might have to do a 5 bolt conversion to achieve what I want.

Rod

Eurostyle
07-27-2007, 01:33 PM
You're right on both counts. I've got staggered style 5's on the E34 and they look awesome - $$$ though. My E34 also sits lower than the E30 as it has sport springs w/no pads.

I'm going to remove the spring pads on the vert and see how it sits, and if it's still not low enough I'll move to H&R race instead of the sports I have now (although they've only got 5,000kms on them).

I've found it very hard to find 4x100 17" wheels in any styles I like, let alone a deep dish BBS. Might have to do a 5 bolt conversion to achieve what I want.

Rod

I have a 318ti subframe waiting! Perfect for a 5 bolt swap!*wave*

talltorontoguy
07-27-2007, 03:59 PM
Hmmmmm, food for thought. Now the front...

I'm looking for a TI antenna assembly, got one of those?

Mikeee46coup
07-27-2007, 06:50 PM
Thanks for the photoshop Fil... I actually like the molding black... think I'll leave it that way for now.

Rod

After Fils PS I agree black does look best *th-up* Thinkin' I'd like to see the mirrors in black too.

talltorontoguy
07-27-2007, 07:55 PM
Mike, the black mirrors is something I am considering. But not the full mirror, just the portion that attaches to the car, not the hinged portion. Could be considered "floating mirrors".... looks great. Will post a pic if I can find one

Mikeee46coup
07-29-2007, 07:22 PM
Mike, the black mirrors is something I am considering. But not the full mirror, just the portion that attaches to the car, not the hinged portion. Could be considered "floating mirrors".... looks great. Will post a pic if I can find one

That's what my mirrors are like (see sig), I'd do it for sure, :confused: maybe smoke your tailights just a bit, to take the "edge" of the red & orange? I could spend all day starring at your cab *love*

WillieE30
07-30-2007, 10:35 AM
Nice work Rod.........I'm jealous......I'm still trying to get mine ready for certification. Might do it this week. Your ride is looking very,very nice. Say Hi to your significant other for me..........Bill

SamE30e
07-30-2007, 10:47 AM
Looks bad ass, I want to get big bumpers for my e, I need to get it certified first.

talltorontoguy
07-31-2007, 01:41 PM
Hey Bill... your cab will be bad assed when done!

Looking forward to getting at least one cruise in with you this season. Let me know if you still need tank etc... it's all in the shop.

WillieE30
07-31-2007, 10:25 PM
Hey Rod. Yes I think I'll still need it. I'm taking the vert in for certification tomorrow. I didn't mention anything about the tank. I'm hoping it will slip by as there is no sign of leakage or smell of gas. It smells only when you put in too much...lol........Looking forward to seeing you guys again. I'll let you know how I make out with the vert and if I'll need anymore parts. Thanks Rod, the next beer is on me........Bill

markw
08-01-2007, 05:00 PM
Re-host! stat!

talltorontoguy
08-02-2007, 01:22 AM
Oops...

BEFORE:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/E30Convertible_20070319_058.jpg

DURING:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/IMGP2103.jpg

AFTER:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/VertFront.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/VertDSFront.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/VertDSRear.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/VertPSRear.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/VertPSSide.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/VertDSSide.jpg

markw
08-03-2007, 01:28 PM
Who was your body shop? I really need to talk to them! Looking GOOD!

T.Dot_E30
08-03-2007, 01:46 PM
Who was your body shop? I really need to talk to them! Looking GOOD!

That answer to your question is in the first page.......read.

markw
08-03-2007, 02:20 PM
That answer to your question is in the first page.......read.


Whoops

86coupe30
08-06-2007, 09:46 AM
where did you get your parts for your short shifter... if you dont mind me asking?

Eurostyle
08-07-2007, 07:33 AM
Hmmmmm, food for thought. Now the front...

I'm looking for a TI antenna assembly, got one of those?

Yeah, i still got the Ti antena, we'll talk when i get back!

T.Dot_E30
08-07-2007, 09:33 AM
where did you get your parts for your short shifter... if you dont mind me asking?

what shifter are you looking for?

I have a z4 3.0L shifter in, its really short, a little knotchy, but once you get used to it, its great. But i'm trying to sell the car, and everyone who drove it, commented on it, I might just swap it out for a stock one.

talltorontoguy
08-08-2007, 01:18 AM
Anything new (ssk, suspension, etc) for the E30 or E34, I buy from Bruno, who is also on maxbimmer - nick: Bruno.

Rod

talltorontoguy
08-08-2007, 01:20 AM
Re: TI antenna, Thanks Fil... drop me a note when you are back.

bimmerboy12
04-17-2008, 03:44 PM
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but an idea came to me while looking at these pictures. Could someone (like Filip) make MTech II sideskirts that were a little taller, so that one could remove the lower moldings on the cabrio and the sideskirts would cover that awkward junction point? This way you would lose the lower molding and it wouldn't look busy. You could even utilize the clip-in holes for fastening the sideskirts.
Just a thought...

87325I
05-02-2008, 04:25 PM
Mad props, to you for setting up your tent to do the bodywork/paint yourself. I think I'm might bite that idea just build a frame with 2x4's and seal it with plastic in the driveway.

talltorontoguy
05-02-2008, 06:15 PM
Looks like I broke the links to the pics so here they are again. I set up a temporary spray booth inside my garage using heavy plastic. One side had a box fan blowing into it, the other had a box fan sucking air out. Both fans had filters to filter air coming in and and out of the booth. worked pretty good.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/Phase%20IV/VertFront.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/Phase%20IV/VertDSFront.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/Phase%20IV/VertDSSide.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/Phase%20IV/VertPSRear.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/Phase%20IV/E30plastics_011.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/rodpainting.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/VertCluster.jpg

talltorontoguy
05-02-2008, 06:20 PM
Here's why hardtop skirts don't fit, and what you have to do to make them fit.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g119/talltorontoguy/Alpine%20White%20Vert%2088/MountingE30HardtopSideSkirtstoConve.jpg