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thinair
12-30-2002, 09:19 PM
I'd like some opinions on wheels, I'm looking to pick up a set of 17" rims really soon and am having a touch time deciding on which ones.....I've basically narrowed it down to 2 rims: the OZ Superleggera, and the BBS RK.

Both are cheap and light, and they both come in 8" widths, although the BBS is available in 8.5" too....

I think a few people already have the RK's, what do you folks think of them?

ROB89M3
12-30-2002, 09:43 PM
Keep the one's you have DAMMIT ! :mad:

OR

BBS RK'S FOR SURE !

But if I were you I'd get the HRE's ...*love*

Jon@Bimmersport
12-30-2002, 09:45 PM
rob did u photoshop that? thats not bad of a job..i got the original pic..whoever did it is good at photoshop...

nelson your a mofo..i swear im gonna key the car! lol jk

ROB89M3
12-30-2002, 09:49 PM
BBS RK's on E36....(GR8 Ride's car)... 17 x 8

89325i
12-30-2002, 09:52 PM
Go with the RK's, and get the centers painted black to match your car.

ROB89M3
12-30-2002, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by 89325i
Go with the RK's, and get the centers painted black to match your car.

His car is not black,it's technoviolet..

thinair
12-31-2002, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by ROB89M3
His car is not black,it's technoviolet..

Actually technically it's Madeira Violet, but yeah, it'd be too much of the same colour.:rolleyes:

And the HRE's are really expensive, I'd rather get BBS LM's. But for the price/weight/strength range, the RK's and Superleggera's are the only two options i'm seriously considering.

And no I'm not keeping my current rims, you can argue all you want, they're not staying.

Basically I like the OZ's because they're anthracite (subtle) and slightly lighter then the BBS's, but I like the BBS's because of the lip (and I'm a fan of BBS). Neither rim is forged.

M50E30
12-31-2002, 12:26 AM
Nelson,

What colour would you go with if you got the BBS RK's?

Dave

thinair
12-31-2002, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by M50E30
Nelson,

What colour would you go with if you got the BBS RK's?

Dave

I dunno, silver? I didn't know I had options.

GR8 Ride
12-31-2002, 03:53 PM
Nelson,

Generally for the E36 all they come in is silver painted. There *was* a limited run of Silver polished (which is what the BBS RK II's are).

The RKs are a little more money than the OZ Superleggera's, but a better looking wheel in my opinion. I had two sets of them available, but they are both sold now. All I have left is a single, brand new 17x8 BBS RK (and I can get you a deal on 3 more if you want....only 7% GST as well, all brand new in boxes). The one I have is $450 (no tax), and I can probably get 3 new ones for $475 each plus shipping and GST.

The RKs will typically run about $500 CDN each, plus tax, retail around Toronto. Nobody carries stock, so you'd be ordering them anyway. The OZ Superleggera's will run about $430 CDN each, plus tax, depending on where you get them from. Tireworks *may* have stock in these.

Specs are essentially identical, all 17x8 (17x8.5 RKs are tough to find..., and tough to fit up front in the E36 without some fender rolling). Both are sub 17 lb rims, and strength is probably equivalent. Either of them make an excellent track wheel for a BMW.

I still love the look of the RKs, particularly the RKIIs. Quite painful when I sold those....



Pat

thinair
12-31-2002, 04:05 PM
Pat, I was hoping you'd post (seeing that you've used both wheelsets). The RKII's are nice, too bad they're 5lbs. heavier per wheel over the RK's (according to this (http://www.wheelweights.net/wheels.pdf) ) for the 17x8. Currently all my fenders are rolled (front and rear) so if I decided to go for the BBS's, I may try to source out the 8.5"s.

GR8 Ride
12-31-2002, 05:03 PM
According to BBS, they no longer have a 17 x 8.5 in the RK for BMW E36.

Check out www.bbs.com for the complete listing of wheels and sizes for BMWs.

They list them as 18x8.5 in both silver and polished silver, and 17x8 in silver and polished, and in two different offsets.

You'd probably want the 40mm offset, and not the 35 mm offset (which would push the wheel farther out) unless you had plenty of room to move on the outside.

I know of only one person who has the 35mm offset BBS RKs; all the ones I've seen from Tirerack etc have been 40mm offset.

For the RKIIs, there is a 17x9 option. However, those wheels were probably about 5lbs heavier each, and had to be reverse mounted (tire put on from the back side of the rim, rather than the front side). Tire shops hate you for that....plus it's easy to damage the wheel surface that way.


Pat

thinair
12-31-2002, 06:29 PM
So 17x8 all around it is then. Wouldn't a 35mm offset bring the wheel inward compared to a 40mm?

What made you decided to get rid of the RK's and get the Superleggera's if you don't mind me asking, just brake caliper clearnace?

GR8 Ride
12-31-2002, 07:27 PM
No, offset is the distance between the actual center of the rim (vertically) and where the hub point is. So a zero offset would have the exact same distance between the outer edge of the rim and the inner edge of the rim.

A negative offset would have the inner edge of the wheel closer to the mounting point, and the outer edge pushed farther out. The bigger the negative offset, the farther out the wheel is.

For the E36, offsets are positive (typically 40 mm), and the larger the offset, the closer IN to the strut the wheel is. So a smaller number (say 35 mm in this case), actually moves the hub closer to the true center of the wheel, and *moves* the contact patch farther out on the axle.

As to the Superleggera's, I went with them simply for brake caliper clearance; no other reason. Had the Stoptech's fit into the RKs / RKIIs, I would have kept them. Really nice looking, solidly built wheels the RKs. And the RKIIs are some of the best looking wheels around in my mind. Great for the street, and I basically gave them away.


Pat

thinair
12-31-2002, 07:42 PM
Ah ok, I was having a hard time visualizing the whole offset thing in my mind until I pictured out a 0mm offset rim would fit.

Well, if I can find the RK's as cheap, or almost as cheap as the superleggeras ($1700 shipped/taxes in, at 1010tires.com) they are the rims i will be getting then.

GR8 Ride
12-31-2002, 08:09 PM
Hmm....

1010tires.com doesn't list the RK as one they have, (only the RC for some reason), but they do call BBS a supplier.

I've never dealt with them before, so I'm not sure what they're like as a dealer.

They don't list the OZ Superleggera's as being available in 17x8, 5x120 40mm offset. I wonder why that is?

Best price I think you'll find on a set of 4 BBS RKs including shipping and tax is about $2000 CDN.

Doubtful anybody could beat that kinda price. I paid about $2400 when I bought my first set from Tirerack, and that's including shipping, taxes and duties.


Pat

SpoolinS6
01-03-2003, 05:53 PM
O.Zs all the way they match better!*wave*

thinair
03-24-2003, 04:09 AM
Well, two and a half months later I'm still torn between the OZ Superlegerras and the BBS RK's.

The OZ's are like $1740 shipped/taxed and the BBS's are like $2015 shipped/taxed.

The OZ's are 15.9lbs each and the BBS's are 16.5lbs....

Damn decisions!
I need to have this figured out within the next couple weeks....

I need to see more pics of the 17" OZ's mounted on e36s.

qimis
03-24-2003, 11:30 AM
i'll go w/ OZ *th-up* damn DEEP dish man :)

thinair
03-24-2003, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by qimis
i'll go w/ OZ *th-up* damn DEEP dish man :)

There is no dish at all on the OZ's, that's why this is such a hard choice for me.

BBS RK's
The Good:
- they have a lip
- they're silver (easier to repair in case of rash)

The bad:
- they look kinda plain

OZ Superleggera's
The Good:
- they're lighter
- they're cheaper
- I like the edgy look to them
- I like how the anthracite contrasts to the Madeira Violet of my car.

The bad:
- no lip
- "they belong on a VW"
- if they get scratched it's going to be a pain to refinish

qimis
03-24-2003, 05:25 PM
damn ... really ??? :confused:
i thought it was this one ?

http://www.renn-sport.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1061

if not then ... i'll choose to keep the alstatd

thinair
03-24-2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by qimis
damn ... really ??? :confused:
i thought it was this one ?

http://www.renn-sport.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1061

if not then ... i'll choose to keep the alstatd

lol, wow, that wheel wouldn't fit unless I cut my fenders off!

This is the OZ I'm thinking of, same wheel, but one piece and no lip. 17x8"

Also, keeping the my current Altstadt's isn't an option.

I believe the OZ's in the pic are 18" though.

330DTM
03-24-2003, 07:00 PM
How's about the OZ Crono Evo?

qimis
03-24-2003, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by 328DTM
How's about the OZ Crono Evo?

this looks like Hamann magnesio

thinair
03-24-2003, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by 328DTM
How's about the OZ Crono Evo?

I don't think they come in 5x120 fitment of the bmw.....plus I've pretty much set my heart on either the RK or the Superleggeras.

The only other wheel I may consider is the ASA FR1, and that's only cause they're available in 17x9" and have a lip. (17x8 on 245's front and 17x9 rear on 255 would be nice!) but I dunno yet.
http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=56645