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piotrek636
12-21-2002, 02:16 AM
hey guys, I could use some of your opinions, past experience and knowledge.

I have a choice of buying a 92 & Up 318i (yes I want 4 door) this summer, or waiting a little more till lets say next year's summer and getting a 325i/328i(possibly)

I already drove 95 318i, I was delivering one to local BugShop to get something minor fixed. Its not very fast bimer thats for sure, but I am not looking for a car that will get me in trouble ;)

One thing however I am looking for is black leather seats in it.
I know most 325's come stock with leather some gray some black.
Did any of the 318's come with black leather ? what year ?

what are some other main advantages/disadvantages between 318i and 325i ?

Im looking forward to spend around $10,000 (plus/minus few grand depending wheather its gonna be 318i or 325i) on my first bimmer,

:rolleyes:

Jase
12-21-2002, 02:25 AM
depending on your age and insurance co. your rates are less. It is better on gas by far. might keep you out of speeding tickets

piotrek636
12-21-2002, 04:49 AM
Yeah I already got a price for insurance, its only 7 bucks more per month than my Corrado for a 1992 318i.
325i will definitelly be a bit more pricey,

so other than the motor with more juice Im not missing out that much ?

Indecisive
12-21-2002, 04:58 AM
Originally posted by Lucky

so other than the motor with more juice Im not missing out that much ?



power is a big thing.....I dunno if the newer 318's are still running 4cylinder or not but the 6cylinder of the 325i is a lot better.

I have E30 318i and E30 325i and the difference in power is really noticeable. if you can afford it then go for the 325, I promise you won't be disappointed. I kno you're talkign about E36 and mine are E30 but I"m sure that the difference between the 318 and 325 is still very apparent.

Jase
12-21-2002, 05:09 AM
ya but waiting an entire extra year is that worth it ..I don't think so . *no-no*

piotrek636
12-21-2002, 05:21 AM
hmm, I just checked out trader.ca
there is five 325i's under 10000 now, maybe out of all those there will be one 5-speed and in decent condition, for a good one, I gotta spend around 15000.

I think Im gonna aim at 325i for this summer, if not Ill get a decent 318i (honestly power doesnt really matter to me that much)

Thanks guys for the help.*th-up*

I gotta check out classifieds forum for leather seats then, just to see how much they go for, it might be worth getting a 325 with those already in the car.

KennyTheGreat
12-21-2002, 05:41 AM
hhahah
dood me and u are in teh same boat


i'm thinkin about a 4door 318

to keep me outta trouble
hahh

piotrek636
12-21-2002, 08:08 PM
yeah I like E36's a lot, especially 4doors. as for E30's I like 2doors like Randy's car. That is one wicked ride ! E46 is out of the question , cant afford that one yet.

Yeah I think I might get 318i, that will be a good start, maybe then I could move on to 328i few years down the road or maybe even M3. I might also do engine swap in to my 318i.

........soon :)

:madnoel:

Soldo
12-21-2002, 08:13 PM
go with the 325/8, trust me, i had a 320i, and when i got my 325i the power difference was unbelieveable!!
and besides, the 6 cyl. will last you longer, and you can still pick it up in your price range with the options you want, check the auto trader, when i test drove the 318, it was a CONV. so i dunno if its the fact that i drove the HEAVIEST 318, but the power was sad, i mean, i LIKE em, but i wouldn't get one, and they don't even have VANOS!
:(
go with the SIXES and you won't regret it!!
*love* *love*

piotrek636
12-21-2002, 10:10 PM
Yeah, I will aim for 325i, if not I will end up with a 318i :)

BTW: most 325's Ive seen for sale are automatics :(
and almost every 318i Ive seen is a 5speed,

:madnoel:

Kal
12-21-2002, 10:29 PM
hey

i have a 94 318i...it lacks power big time!! u say that is not a factor but when stock civics are outracing u, ur gonna want more power.. it gets to all those honda guys' heads too..they'll be like i just beat a bmw...

but i dunno...if i could go back in time i would have got a 325..

just my 0.02 cents

kal

piotrek636
12-21-2002, 10:34 PM
Yeah, good point, even though Im not planning on streeet racing at all, a 6'er would become handy from time to time. :huh?:

I guess I should smoke some more civics with my Corrado till then ;)

Autotechnica
12-22-2002, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by Kal
hey

i have a 94 318i...it lacks power big time!! u say that is not a factor but when stock civics are outracing u, ur gonna want more power.. it gets to all those honda guys' heads too..they'll be like i just beat a bmw...

but i dunno...if i could go back in time i would have got a 325..

just my 0.02 cents

kal

Oh man, your 318 isn't auto is it? That's a joke. I can smoke stock or moderately modified civics all day. I even come very close to the 160HP SiR.

Bryan

Soldo
12-22-2002, 04:16 PM
thats true, i've actually TAKEN an SiR in my 320i, which only has 10 more hp than a 318!!

piotrek636
12-22-2002, 04:19 PM
WOW:rolleyes:

Yeah I also heard that even though 318i is one of the slowest bimemrs, on Highway its gaining speed like crazy for a little 1.8L

Kal
12-22-2002, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Autotechnica
Oh man, your 318 isn't auto is it? That's a joke. I can smoke stock or moderately modified civics all day. I even come very close to the 160HP SiR.

Bryan


:( yaa..it is auto.. :(

Lil'Smoothie
12-22-2002, 05:33 PM
I'd aim for a 325i, the luxury between the 318 and 325 is no different. Im sure you can get both fully loaded, as for the engine isnt it just an e30's M42 engine but with more weight.? Get the 325, they sound better, and bmw's strait 6 engines are very strong. Also if you plan onmodding your bimmer you will have alot more fun tweaking the 6 cylinder motor, why start with 150 horse when you can start with 190

Autotechnica
12-23-2002, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by Lil'Smoothie
I'd aim for a 325i, the luxury between the 318 and 325 is no different. Im sure you can get both fully loaded, as for the engine isnt it just an e30's M42 engine but with more weight.? Get the 325, they sound better, and bmw's strait 6 engines are very strong. Also if you plan onmodding your bimmer you will have alot more fun tweaking the 6 cylinder motor, why start with 150 horse when you can start with 190

The 318 is actually a 138HP.. anyways, the E30's M42 has a few small differences compared to the E36's M42. One huge difference is the completely redesigned intake manifold. I've heard E30 318's have more power up high but E36 318's have more toque down low. I don't know why people put down 318's all the time, they aren't as slow as people make them out to be.

Bryan

Indecisive
12-23-2002, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by Autotechnica
I don't know why people put down 318's all the time, they aren't as slow as people make them out to be.




true true, but when you are comparing it to a 325i the "slowness" of the 318i does stick out like a sore thumb.

Lil'Smoothie
12-23-2002, 04:47 AM
thanks bryan , I wasnt to sure about the hp figure for them. Im not saying that they are slow, ive heeard they are but ive never driven a 318 only M3 & E30/E36/E46 325i. I recently drove an 86 325E and it was pretty quick, are they faster than 318's or about the same?

I was just giving my opinion on what I think is best no harm intended

Autotechnica
12-23-2002, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Lil'Smoothie
thanks bryan , I wasnt to sure about the hp figure for them. Im not saying that they are slow, ive heeard they are but ive never driven a 318 only M3 & E30/E36/E46 325i. I recently drove an 86 325E and it was pretty quick, are they faster than 318's or about the same?

I was just giving my opinion on what I think is best no harm intended

I have no clue, but my 318 runs 8.8 seconds 0-100 and 16.7 in the 1/4 mile. Stock 318's run 10 seconds 0-100 and 17 seconds 1/4 mile. Automatic E36 325's run 9.9 seconds 0-100 and 17 seconds 1/4 mile. Sorry that's a little jumbled..

ok so..

my m/t E36 318 0-100 8.8 1/4 mile 16.7
stock m/t E36 318 0-100 10.0 1/4 mile 17.0
stock a/t E36 325 0-100 9.9 seconds 1/4 mile 17.0 seconds
stock m/t 325 ??? no idea.. sorry

but you get the idea. stock manual 318's can smoke most auto 325's so it's not that slow. If I had a choice I would get a manual 325 for sure, but if it were an auto I'd rather have a manual 318. I just like how lightweight the front end of the 318 is, it's more responsive and it gives less understeer compared to the 325. IF you've ever driven the 2 cars 318's tend to oversteer right away where as the 325's, 328's or M3's will understeer, then oversteer. This is because of the added weight in the front end. A friend of mine with Eurospec M3 says adding a carbon fiber hood on the M3 compensates for it and the understeer is gone. He races at mosport a lot so he is quite experienced.

Bryan

Indecisive
12-23-2002, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Lil'Smoothie
I recently drove an 86 325E and it was pretty quick, are they faster than 318's or about the same?



I dunno about E36 but with the E30s there's a 64HP differnce. and there's no way in hell that my dad's manual 318i can outrun my auto 325i. so with the E30s there is a big difference. but like I said, I dunno about E36

Soldo
12-23-2002, 08:09 PM
my stock 325i m/t did the 1/4 mile in 15.4, that was when it was BONE stock, not a single mod done to it, and besides, the 1/4 mile doesn't necessarily determine whether a car is MORE powerful, cause a LOT of it depends on GEARING!!!
;)

Autotechnica
12-23-2002, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by Indecisive
I dunno about E36 but with the E30s there's a 64HP differnce. and there's no way in hell that my dad's manual 318i can outrun my auto 325i. so with the E30s there is a big difference. but like I said, I dunno about E36

I'm pretty sure the E30 325 isn't using the M50 motor, but the E30 318 has 2 motors, M10 and M42. Becareful which ones you are comparing.

M10 - 0-100 in 11.6 seconds, 1/4 mile in 18.3 seconds
M42 - 0-100 in 10.0 seconds, 1/4 mile in 17.0 seconds

Pretty big difference there. I think you raced the M10.

Bryan

piotrek636
12-23-2002, 08:38 PM
yeah Im getting definitelly a 5-speed, I will never buy automatic, Id rather keep my corrado.

I will be aiming at 325i, but if i see a nice 318i I will buy it.

Thats a lot of research/information, thanks guys *th-up*

Autotechnica
12-23-2002, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by SOLDOMATIC 325i
my stock 325i m/t did the 1/4 mile in 15.4, that was when it was BONE stock, not a single mod done to it, and besides, the 1/4 mile doesn't necessarily determine whether a car is MORE powerful, cause a LOT of it depends on GEARING!!!
;)

stock 325 does 15.8, so your not too far off. When comparing automatic transmissions and manual transmissions you should know that there is a lot more than just gearing involved. I'm not too familiar with auto's, but I know there is some kinda power loss as well.

Anyways, I was simply pointing out the fact that there are many auto 325's around. Hey if a 5 speed 318 can smoke one I'd say the 318 isn't that slow. It's funny how you would say the auto 325 is a good car, yet even though the 5 speed 318 run's the same times both 0-100 and 1/4 mile it's a slow POS.. hmmm.

Bryan

Jase
12-23-2002, 08:40 PM
I have a 84 318i with a m10 and My friend has a 91 318is with a m42 his acar is way faster than mine..

Indecisive
12-24-2002, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by Autotechnica
I'm pretty sure the E30 325 isn't using the M50 motor, but the E30 318 has 2 motors, M10 and M42. Becareful which ones you are comparing.

M10 - 0-100 in 11.6 seconds, 1/4 mile in 18.3 seconds
M42 - 0-100 in 10.0 seconds, 1/4 mile in 17.0 seconds

Pretty big difference there. I think you raced the M10.

Bryan


oh, I didn't know that there was another motor.

ya, my 318i has the M10 engine.