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Bavaria
11-21-2002, 01:10 AM
*devil* muhahahahahahahaha BENZ my ass, i think it was like a 90-95 anyhow this is how the story goes, comming from college, tierd and going to work, waiting at thelights, this white 300SEL parks next to me, loud music, man bobbing his head, looks at me, revs his engine, and kills the light!! what a f.uck head.
so i wait till the light goes grean, and roll till i reach him, and here is another red, he rolls down his window and said "you want some of this?" i smile back and say "do you want ur ass handed to you" he frowns and says "lets go big boy" knowing i can own this guy, i put my car on sport shift, and on 2, yes i am an auto :rolleyes: so the light turns green, he rips his tires and i am killing him already, betting him by a car length he still wanted to keep going so he speeds up while im slowing down and tells me he wants me on the highway, well i dont have work for another 2 hours so i go, we raced off a role of 80km/h and still killed the sucker, reached a spead of 240km/h then called it a day, we parked outside of tim hortons and then he couldnt face the fact that i handed him his ass, well i am all happy, and all i can say is BMW rules GERMANY !!! *th-up*

1BADBMW
11-21-2002, 01:28 AM
man, good job*th-up* .....ya 7ers are smoething, i tried to mess with newer ones, and man they got some balls*th-up* .......:cool:

tlaselva
11-21-2002, 01:33 AM
Nice kill, especially when he asked for it. *th-up*

Doesn't know too much about cars; he should've known you'd smoke him. I always say if ur going to challenge people, be sure you know your cars. Last thing you want to do is entice a car to a race that's going to smoke you bad.

Like me enticing a Viper to a race, then feel sore when he makes me look like I'm driving a VW Diesel............:rolleyes:

bart320i
11-22-2002, 11:26 AM
Nice kill dude*th-up*

e30_325_s52
11-22-2002, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by bart320i
Nice kill dude*th-up*


enough said

djcontra
11-22-2002, 12:49 PM
nice one!
those 7series bmws are quite the sleepers!

e30_325_s52
11-22-2002, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by djcontra
nice one!
those 7series bmws are quite the sleepers!

i dont think people know the real power

openwheel
11-22-2002, 05:59 PM
Nice kill. 300SEL, that car weights over 5,000 lbs and less than 215 bhp. The car is a tank. What an idiot? It's great when someone give you an inventation to kick his own ass.*drink*

AMG_POWER
11-22-2002, 06:01 PM
nice*uzi*

e30_325_s52
11-22-2002, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by openwheel
Nice kill. 300SEL, that car weights over 5,000 lbs and less than 215 bhp. The car is a tank. What an idiot? It's great when someone give you an inventation to kick his own ass.*drink*

haha exactly

IVAN
11-24-2002, 04:21 PM
Maybe benz boy thought that if he has benz he can race all kinda bmw toys... Like my friend has audi 90 1994 and it says quatro next to headlight and now he thinks he can smoke all bimmers hahah...Yeah not in this movie....

e30_325_s52
11-24-2002, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by IVAN
Maybe benz boy thought that if he has benz he can race all kinda bmw toys... Like my friend has audi 90 1994 and it says quatro next to headlight and now he thinks he can smoke all bimmers hahah...Yeah not in this movie....

u know wanna somehtin ****ed up...these dudes at my school say that their honda civic hacthback is faster then any bmw....i laughed in their face...haha then i said u wanna race on that?...and there lik no

Jon@Bimmersport
11-24-2002, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by e30_325_s52


u know wanna somehtin ****ed up...these dudes at my school say that their honda civic hacthback is faster then any bmw....i laughed in their face...haha then i said u wanna race on that?...and there lik no

whats done to it? i know for a fact you can make a street legal drag civic faster than a street legal bimmer...empowerd's s/c'd M3 engine pushes like 350hp or something and he hits 12s, but he looses a shit load of traction...theres street legal civics i know of that are 11sec and lower. a gsr civic with intake and exhaust will kill 328is,..not M3 though

e30_325_s52
11-24-2002, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover


whats done to it? i know for a fact you can make a street legal drag civic faster than a street legal bimmer...empowerd's s/c'd M3 engine pushes like 350hp or something and he hits 12s, but he looses a shit load of traction...theres street legal civics i know of that are 11sec and lower. a gsr civic with intake and exhaust will kill 328is,..not M3 though
i was taklin to them bout there tuned civic wit a e30 wit m52 engine in it

e30_325_s52
11-24-2002, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by e30_325_s52

i was taklin to them bout there tuned civic wit a e30 wit m52 engine in it

and some other mods done to it..lik intake, chip, u know

bart320i
11-25-2002, 12:17 PM
I was running circles around my buddies gutted 98hatch civic with SI motor with intake, exuast and headers and pullies. My car being much heaveir with only 155 bhp stock 320i motor. I guess the torque comes into play allot.

Lil'Smoothie
11-25-2002, 03:48 PM
I dont know what all the hype abour GSR's are. They arent that quick, ive driven one. I also raced one and took it in my 325is. It seemed alot quicker in 3rd, 4th than in 1st or 2nd.

People hyype GSR's up way to much. I read an article in a sport compact magazine or some shit like that, and it said how Honda exagerated their stats for the GSR and it realy has like 140-150 stock hp. those were the results they got when they dynoed it

Jon@Bimmersport
11-25-2002, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by bart320i
I was running circles around my buddies gutted 98hatch civic with SI motor with intake, exuast and headers and pullies. My car being much heaveir with only 155 bhp stock 320i motor. I guess the torque comes into play allot.

are u serious? he must not be a good driver no offense...a gutted 98 hatch with si motor (DOHC VTEC 160hp) with intake, exhaust, headers and pullies...i'd say hes hitting 175hp from that...he'd rape the 320i! my cousins civic, with the subs, 4 door, full interior, with just the type-r motor will kill the 320i...no offense, but i dunno man...a gutted 98 hatch with that motor and engine work can hit mid 14s!

mkgino
11-25-2002, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover


are u serious? he must not be a good driver no offense...a gutted 98 hatch with si motor (DOHC VTEC 160hp) with intake, exhaust, headers and pullies...i'd say hes hitting 175hp from that...he'd rape the 320i! my cousins civic, with the subs, 4 door, full interior, with just the type-r motor will kill the 320i...no offense, but i dunno man...a gutted 98 hatch with that motor and engine work can hit mid 14s!

Hahahahaha!!! You act like honda engines are the best.......Vtec all the way baby.......hahahahha!!!!

e30_325_s52
11-25-2002, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by mkgino


Hahahahaha!!! You act like honda engines are the best.......Vtec all the way baby.......hahahahha!!!!

no dude...honda civic engines are so sick man...actually im just jokin....civics are pretty slow...but thats my opinon

Pedro91'318i
11-25-2002, 08:30 PM
The only thing i like about honda's are Type R's with a nice exhaust and hearing that v-tec kick in. Its a nice sound. All i wish for is people to get off civics. :idea: If you look at japan tuner mags all you see are rx7's, supra's, skylines, and sylvia's (just to name a few). They get cars that are fast and make them faster*th-up* I know civics are easier to fix up and get ahold of especially when it come to parts cuz they make everything in the world for them but there played out*thmbsdwn* There thats my quick lil bitchin*devil*

e30_325_s52
11-25-2002, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by Pedro91'318i
The only thing i like about honda's are Type R's with a nice exhaust and hearing that v-tec kick in. Its a nice sound. All i wish for is people to get off civics. :idea: If you look at japan tuner mags all you see are rx7's, supra's, skylines, and sylvia's (just to name a few). They get cars that are fast and make them faster*th-up* I know civics are easier to fix up and get ahold of especially when it come to parts cuz they make everything in the world for them but there played out*thmbsdwn* There thats my quick lil bitchin*devil*

and did u know asian cars are the most stolen cars in the country?...well thats in the U.S. i dunno bout cananda...and pedro..ur rite bout the sound of a civic exhast.....if its lik a 4 inch exhast..i think it sounds nice....but not on a civic..thats my opinion

Jon@Bimmersport
11-25-2002, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Pedro91'318i
The only thing i like about honda's are Type R's with a nice exhaust and hearing that v-tec kick in. Its a nice sound. All i wish for is people to get off civics. :idea: If you look at japan tuner mags all you see are rx7's, supra's, skylines, and sylvia's (just to name a few). They get cars that are fast and make them faster*th-up* I know civics are easier to fix up and get ahold of especially when it come to parts cuz they make everything in the world for them but there played out*thmbsdwn* There thats my quick lil bitchin*devil*

thats true, but unfortunatly we live in canada where we cant afford skylines and silvias!! lol although im proud to be here rather than in japan....

if i wanted a street drag car i'd get a honda...not only becuz i know how to fix em up, its also because they dont waste much gas (call me stupid i dont care), but at this stage of my life i'd rather have a smaller fast car than a fast tank...you can easily get 300hp outta a 1.8L honda vtec motor...

you dont need a type-r motor to get that sound, its the exact same as gsr, except with a type-r u have the 00' sir tranny, head, but with gsr block and port polished intake manifold...so you can get the same sound out of any vtec motor.

as for MKGINO...i dont think honda motors are the best, its just i hate how people look down upon them....this topic was about speed, a honda will kill a bimmer in 1/4...but im not saying honda's in general are better...

mkgino
11-25-2002, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
as for MKGINO...i dont think honda motors are the best, its just i hate how people look down upon them....this topic was about speed, a honda will kill a bimmer in 1/4...but im not saying honda's in general are better...

1/4 mile is nothing, look at the car as a whole, meaning put the car on a track and what do you get?? BMW all the way baby! Stock for stock mind you, not mod for mod ok? Ok good.

Jon@Bimmersport
11-25-2002, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by mkgino


1/4 mile is nothing, look at the car as a whole, meaning put the car on a track and what do you get?? BMW all the way baby! Stock for stock mind you, not mod for mod ok? Ok good.

if you stopped lookin at porn for 1min and actually read the post, his friends honda had mods...so i am talkin bout modded honda, not stock for stock...and its about street racing also which is roughly mostly 1/4mile

mkgino
11-25-2002, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover


if you stopped lookin at porn for 1min and actually read the post, his friends honda had mods...so i am talkin bout modded honda, not stock for stock...and its about street racing also which is roughly mostly 1/4mile

I know, but all Im saying is that if you took those same cars and put em on the track it would be a different story. See, when you compare the two cars stock for stock, that should be the only real comparison because thats what both cars have to offer in a sense. Now thake both these cars and compare them stock for stock on a track, then there is a clear winner, bmw baby.

mkgino
11-25-2002, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover


whats done to it? i know for a fact you can make a street legal drag civic faster than a street legal bimmer...empowerd's s/c'd M3 engine pushes like 350hp or something and he hits 12s, but he looses a shit load of traction...theres street legal civics i know of that are 11sec and lower. a gsr civic with intake and exhaust will kill 328is,..not M3 though

Ok hold on, the hatchback?? Or the coupe?? With the 175hp and 141 tq gsr engine will beat my car?? What are the specs of this engine and whats the weight of this car its in, and I will tell you if it can beat me, remember I can beat the RSX type S until he hits third and then Im about a car to a car and a half behind so...........

Bavaria
11-26-2002, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by mkgino
Now thake both these cars and compare them stock for stock on a track, then there is a clear winner, bmw baby.



only an idiot would deny that! you want strait ways then go live in a desert*no-no* , you wanna talk real streat racing with handling........hellooooooo BMW
*th-up*
my 2 Liras!!! (lebanese money) *wiggle*

tlaselva
11-26-2002, 08:53 AM
Honda = Econo Car.
BMW = Performance Luxury Car.

They are not even remotely similar in any way other than 4 wheels and a steering wheel.

Ya you can slap an intake, muffler, bla bla bla..... but face it, it's still an econo car. It's a car designed to take you to point B, I don' t care how much money you sink into it. It doesn't take a lot of HP to pull a tin can down the street.

I can understand that kids nowadays don't have the money to have a proper sports car. Fixing up a cheap Honda is the only way they can have anything that resembles one. But to then think you can 'beat' BMW's, Mustangs, bla bla bla with that tin can is vile.

Owned 2 different Honda's for 14 years total. To think any one of them, even with performance mods sunk into them, would be comparable to even a base, older BMW is a$$inine. :rolleyes: (IMO)

Gamite
11-26-2002, 12:05 PM
you guys are comparing apples to oranges again. and again and again..

Phantom
11-26-2002, 01:34 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gamite
you guys are comparing apples to oranges again. and again and again.. [/QUOTE


*Sigh* Ya. All this talk about cars raping each other. Way too much porn surfing going on................:D

Jon@Bimmersport
11-26-2002, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by mkgino


Ok hold on, the hatchback?? Or the coupe?? With the 175hp and 141 tq gsr engine will beat my car?? What are the specs of this engine and whats the weight of this car its in, and I will tell you if it can beat me, remember I can beat the RSX type S until he hits third and then Im about a car to a car and a half behind so...........

the first 2 gears isnt the whole 1/4mile doofus! ask MP328 or WASABI what gear they were in when they finished the 1/4mile...can you read lol? it says the hatchback, the car itself with the motor weighs no more than 2300lbs thats only an estimate from the weight of bimmers...it's probably less...and everytime you go streetracing you dont go into turning its only from 1 stop light to the next....this isnt need for speed!

And tlaselva, i understand what your saying, but if you knew and took a ride in the cars that im talking about your view would change....it may not have the torque of a mustang, but a 95 GSR will keep up with a 95 GT..i've seen it happen stock for stock...yes, civics and basically all honda's are econo cars....but that just comes to show you that even econo cars can be faster than the american muscle cars! go to english town and see what cars are raping what....but no doubt, your M3 will rape any honda stock, so will the e36...BUT with mods probably not, when you compare something like that NSX TT vs s/c e36 M3...i dont know who to choose!


may i remind you guys, this is about street racing...which is only 1 stop light to the next!!

tlaselva
11-26-2002, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover


the first 2 gears isnt the whole 1/4mile doofus! ask MP328 or WASABI what gear they were in when they finished the 1/4mile...can you read lol? it says the hatchback, the car itself with the motor weighs no more than 2300lbs thats only an estimate from the weight of bimmers...it's probably less...and everytime you go streetracing you dont go into turning its only from 1 stop light to the next....this isnt need for speed!

may i remind you guys, this is about street racing...which is only 1 stop light to the next!!

Tell that to the few Bozo's last summer that killed themselves racing in Civics and Acura's. Ask them if they would've preferred some better handling on their cars at that point.......

B/c I strap a JATO unit to my hood of my Honda and can go from 0-60 in 1.2 seconds, doesn't make my car 'faster' than a Viper? My point is somewhere someone has to draw the line between honest to goodness performance and idiocy.

Because these cars are so light, and a lot of them spend all their money on go fast stuff, and keep there stock suspension, it makes their cars inheritably unstable at high speeds. Let's face it; a Civic was never designed for 200 kph. Now maybe if these bozo's would install those stupid aluminum wings on the hood than the trunk on there front wheel drive rice boxes, then maybe they'd be getting somewhere........ :rolleyes:

Jon@Bimmersport
11-26-2002, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by tlaselva


Tell that to the few Bozo's last summer that killed themselves racing in Civics and Acura's. Ask them if they would've preferred some better handling on their cars at that point.......

B/c I strap a JATO unit to my hood of my Honda and can go from 0-60 in 1.2 seconds, doesn't make my car 'faster' than a Viper? My point is somewhere someone has to draw the line between honest to goodness performance and idiocy.

Because these cars are so light, and a lot of them spend all their money on go fast stuff, and keep there stock suspension, it makes their cars inheritably unstable at high speeds. Let's face it; a Civic was never designed for 200 kph. Now maybe if these bozo's would install those stupid aluminum wings on the hood than the trunk on there front wheel drive rice boxes, then maybe they'd be getting somewhere........ :rolleyes:

actually theres one guy who did that on his accord...to bad its a show car only...anyways, those are only the guys are are 18yrs old...the people who are actually knowledgable about cars know what they're doing...how do you know the majority spends money on engine mods and not suspesion? thats my whole point here....the majority of the guys on max are so confident with themselves (im not naming names! so dont take this so personally) that they frown upon honda's because of their label as "econo cars". lets face it, i know they're meant as grocery getter cars, but in all honesty, a dam 2000 integra type-r (north american and j-spec versions) are able to kick the shit out of the "legendary" and "american dream" or whatever they call it mustang GT! mkgino's 328is had the lead for only 2 first gears, so much for your torque buddy....rolled_outs rsx is amazingly fast for a lil tin can for stock! what are the 95 mustang gt's suppossed to run 1/4mile?

anyone who is smart wont go in and out of cars, thats the driver's decision...NOT THE CAR! there are so many people in US who have gotten a domestic muscle car and rolled it because of the shitty handling too! its all about what the driver does, not the car...

tlaselva
11-26-2002, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover


actually theres one guy who did that on his accord...to bad its a show car only...anyways, those are only the guys are are 18yrs old...the people who are actually knowledgable about cars know what they're doing...how do you know the majority spends money on engine mods and not suspesion? thats my whole point here....the majority of the guys on max are so confident with themselves (im not naming names! so dont take this so personally) that they frown upon honda's because of their label as "econo cars". lets face it, i know they're meant as grocery getter cars, but in all honesty, a dam 2000 integra type-r (north american and j-spec versions) are able to kick the shit out of the "legendary" and "american dream" or whatever they call it mustang GT! mkgino's 328is had the lead for only 2 first gears, so much for your torque buddy....rolled_outs rsx is amazingly fast for a lil tin can for stock! what are the 95 mustang gt's suppossed to run 1/4mile?

anyone who is smart wont go in and out of cars, thats the driver's decision...NOT THE CAR! there are so many people in US who have gotten a domestic muscle car and rolled it because of the shitty handling too! its all about what the driver does, not the car...

Your comparing a 7 year old car to a current model.
Apples with apples E46_lover.

Compare a current Mustang to a current RSX-S.
Let's not even bring in the '03 SVT into it! Nasty! *devil*

Let's make it even more interesting.....
Lets race not a 1320, but a 2640!

Anyone taking bets? :D

mkgino
11-26-2002, 03:58 PM
Jon, Im not claiming that an RSX isnt faster than my car. You see, any honda/acura is fast only because it is light, and thats it. If I got my car down to 2800 pounds like the RSX-S then he would only see my nice AA Gen 3 exhaust the whole race. So how does my fat ass 3200 pound car even keep up with the RSX-S?? How about this, next time I race an RSX-S lets put about 3-4 passengers in the RSX-S to get its weight up to the same level as my car, who will win then?? Yeah thats what I thought.

Jon@Bimmersport
11-26-2002, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by tlaselva
[BLet's make it even more interesting.....
Lets race not a 1320, but a 2640!

Anyone taking bets? :D [/B]


how bout we dont, and stay on topic? lol

whats the best time u ever saw for a bone stock 95 GT for 1/4mile?

mkgino
11-26-2002, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover



how bout we dont, and stay on topic? lol

whats the best time u ever saw for a bone stock 95 GT for 1/4mile?

Ok, lets get back on topic here like E46 Lover says. Now most cars that honda makes like the Integra Type R is made for street racing right? Here is an apple to apple comparison. You cant compare a 328 to a type R since 328 is a daily driver and a type R is a car made for racing. Soooooo, lets compare the Type R to the M3 since the M3 is BMW's racing car. Oh hold on now, lets get more specific. Since the Type R is no longer made, and the RSX type S was made to replace the Integra Type R, then lets compare the RSX-S to the E46 M3, not the E36 M3 (since that is not made anymore either). Ok now lets see some 1/4 mile times stock vs stock of two cars the rsx-s vs the E46 M3, both cars that are made for racing by two diffferent companies......comon lets race these cars and see who will win. Eh Jon? Who is gonna win?*th-up*

Jon@Bimmersport
11-26-2002, 05:56 PM
see...i know you have taken what i said from our convo on msn into here...so i did some extra research....the type-s is a marjorly toned down version from the type-r in japan! and the type-r is made as a daily driver, WITH the ability to be a track car that is amazing...the brand new integra type-r in japan might not compare with the E46 M3 but its really close....JDM ITR is like mid 14 with average driver, E46 M3 with average driver is high 13sec- 14flat? thats really not that bad...BUT the M3 still kills it...notice how im staying on topic, its what some of the members on max CANNOT do..:rolleyes:

E46 M3 vs JDM ITR is a close comparison...but E46 M3 still wins...now lets get back to the topic of my original post....320i vs gutted 98 hatch with motor, intake, exhaust, headers and pullies

mkgino
11-26-2002, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
see...i know you have taken what i said from our convo on msn into here...so i did some extra research....the type-s is a marjorly toned down version from the type-r in japan! and the type-r is made as a daily driver, WITH the ability to be a track car that is amazing...the brand new integra type-r in japan might not compare with the E46 M3 but its really close....JDM ITR is like mid 14 with average driver, E46 M3 with average driver is high 13sec- 14flat? thats really not that bad...BUT the M3 still kills it...notice how im staying on topic, its what some of the members on max CANNOT do..:rolleyes:

E46 M3 vs JDM ITR is a close comparison...but E46 M3 still wins...now lets get back to the topic of my original post....320i vs gutted 98 hatch with motor, intake, exhaust, headers and pullies

I dont think a 320i can beat a gutted hatch like that, unless it was a bad driver.

Bavaria
11-26-2002, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover


that they frown upon honda's because of their label as "econo cars".

Correction
ECONO BOXES *wave*

Jon@Bimmersport
11-26-2002, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by mkgino


I dont think a 320i can beat a gutted hatch like that, unless it was a bad driver.

well well well, look who decides to go back on topic, why couldnt you just say that originally?

EMPOWERD
11-26-2002, 06:12 PM
Maybe I can shine some light on the subject since I drive both marques and can offer an unbiased opinion. Instead of comparing both companies' top current models (should be the NSX, not the RSX-S vs. E46 M3). I think Jon is trying to compare cars that are a little closer in price. Like I said before, the only thing Honda's have going for them is power to weight. A GSR Civic will kill a 328i and pull away from an E36 M3 (I can prove it, if anyone wants to race... my friend has one that does 14.1s all day long) in the quarter. And handling? Well, as a avid lapper at various tracks here in SoOnt I've witnessed some Civic's spank M3's on the track too. Like I said... it always comes down to power and weight. In reality, we really are comparing 2 completely different things and this thread should be ended now because it will go on forever.

Bavaria
11-26-2002, 06:14 PM
do we have to listen to the moderator ummmmmmm no looool
jk! *angel*

Jon@Bimmersport
11-26-2002, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by empowerd
Maybe I can shine some light on the subject since I drive both marques and can offer an unbiased opinion. Instead of comparing both companies' top current models (should be the NSX, not the RSX-S vs. E46 M3). I think Jon is trying to compare cars that are a little closer in price. Like I said before, the only thing Honda's have going for them is power to weight. A GSR Civic will kill a 328i and pull away from an E36 M3 (I can prove it, if anyone wants to race... my friend has one that does 14.1s all day long) in the quarter. And handling? Well, as a avid lapper at various tracks here in SoOnt I've witnessed some Civic's spank M3's on the track too. Like I said... it always comes down to power and weight. In reality, we really are comparing 2 completely different things and this thread should be ended now because it will go on forever.

thank you...finally, someone has understood my whole concept..not only from this thread but from many others! *th-up*

mkgino
11-26-2002, 06:25 PM
Damn it, thats what I always say. I always talk about how I can never beat an RSX-S because it has a better power to weight ratio than I do. It is always about power to weight, no matter what. Thats what makes a car fast and that is what I learned the hard way. :( But an NSX cant beat an E46 M3 can it?? How much does it weigh??

e30_325_s52
11-26-2002, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by mkgino
Damn it, thats what I always say. I always talk about how I can never beat an RSX-S because it has a better power to weight ratio than I do. It is always about power to weight, no matter what. Thats what makes a car fast and that is what I learned the hard way. :( But an NSX cant beat an E46 M3 can it?? How much does it weigh??

well thats the thing mkgino...i believe a nsx(stock) could beat a bimmer because they are lighter then bimmers and there actually made for speed....a bmw is a luxury...but thats wha i know/think..correct me if im wrong

mkgino
11-26-2002, 06:38 PM
Ok, the NSX weighs about 3100 pounds and the M3 weighs 3400 pounds, I think. Someone correct me if Im wrong on these specs, becuase Im not sure. Anyway, so the M3 weighs more but has more power.....hmmm that would be a really good race, I would love to see a race like that NSX VS E46 M3!*th-up*

e30_325_s52
11-26-2002, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by mkgino
Ok, the NSX weighs about 3100 pounds and the M3 weighs 3400 pounds, I think. Someone correct me if Im wrong on these specs, becuase Im not sure. Anyway, so the M3 weighs more but has more power.....hmmm that would be a really good race, I would love to see a race like that NSX VS E46 M3!*th-up*


well wha m3 u talkin bout...it ur talkin bout the e36 then the same amount of hp there..but i dunoo how the race would be wit the e46 m3..but i would lik to see it too

Jon@Bimmersport
11-26-2002, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by mkgino
Damn it, thats what I always say. I always talk about how I can never beat an RSX-S because it has a better power to weight ratio than I do. It is always about power to weight, no matter what. Thats what makes a car fast and that is what I learned the hard way. :( But an NSX cant beat an E46 M3 can it?? How much does it weigh??

E46 M3 vs NSX...which one? there are many...the older stock ones, older type-s, type-s zero, type-r, or the new nsx, and the new nsx type-r, type-s. pick and choose then we can probably compare...NSX are very light since they are made of aluminum, and are made for racing...their handling is amazing too, so thats a car you can compare street, and track...since i know you love to go into track comparisons!

e30_325_s52
11-26-2002, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover


E46 M3 vs NSX...which one? there are many...the older stock ones, older type-s, type-s zero, type-r, or the new nsx, and the new nsx type-r, type-s. pick and choose then we can probably compare...NSX are very light since they are made of aluminum, and are made for racing...their handling is amazing too, so thats a car you can compare street, and track...since i know you love to go into track comparisons!

i was talkin bout a e36 m3 and the new type r nsx....but i dunno which ones he was talkin bout

Jon@Bimmersport
11-26-2002, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by e30_325_s52


i was talkin bout a e36 m3 and the new type r nsx....but i dunno which ones he was talkin bout

the new type-r will rape an e36 M3 in straight line, probably in handling too

e30_325_s52
11-26-2002, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover


the new type-r will rape an e36 M3 in straight line, probably in handling too
ya i know..i was just tellin that dude that said a good race would be a m3 and nsx but i didnt know wha one he was talkin bout....but nsx are quick for 240 hp stock

Jon@Bimmersport
11-26-2002, 08:52 PM
yea they are, i beleive the new one is a lot more powerfule, the new NSX in the US isnt 240hp anymore is it?

mkgino
11-26-2002, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover


E46 M3 vs NSX...which one? there are many...the older stock ones, older type-s, type-s zero, type-r, or the new nsx, and the new nsx type-r, type-s. pick and choose then we can probably compare...NSX are very light since they are made of aluminum, and are made for racing...their handling is amazing too, so thats a car you can compare street, and track...since i know you love to go into track comparisons!

No, the newest NSX with 290 hp and the new E46 M3. That would be a good race. But I still think the New M3 would win, I mean it does have a weight disadvantage but has 43 extra horses and 37 extra tq so....... I still think the M3 would prevail even though it weighs a couple 100 more pounds

e30_325_s52
11-26-2002, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by mkgino


No, the newest NSX with 290 hp and the new E46 M3. That would be a good race. But I still think the New M3 would win, I mean it does have a weight disadvantage but has 43 extra horses and 37 extra tq so....... I still think the M3 would prevail even though it weighs a couple 100 more pounds


well that would be a very good race then....since we got the yrs st8 for each car...haha...it took a while...o well..yes mkgino....it would be good to have a 1/4 race... o ya...have u seen that clip of the bmw and ferrari?...the bmw almost had the race but that ferrari come at the end and beat him....i was pissed..i dunno y..i thought the m3 turbo would win...it was a good race

Jon@Bimmersport
11-26-2002, 09:49 PM
the 550 maranello had him non stop! off the line it man handled that M3! geez the car couldnt even stay straight because of the launch! oh i was droolin for that vid...thats 1 amazing car (ferrari)

e30_325_s52
11-26-2002, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
the 550 maranello had him non stop! off the line it man handled that M3! geez the car couldnt even stay straight because of the launch! oh i was droolin for that vid...thats 1 amazing car (ferrari) u saw it too?...it was pretty tite huh..i think the bmw was black or somethin...and the f. was lik silver?..i cant really rmemebr.

Jon@Bimmersport
11-26-2002, 10:27 PM
yep it was...i think thats that guy josh's m3..i have videos of his M3 somewhere on my comp..it sounds amazing too!

e30_325_s52
11-26-2002, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
yep it was...i think thats that guy josh's m3..i have videos of his M3 somewhere on my comp..it sounds amazing too! did u think the m3 would win?

mkgino
11-27-2002, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by e30_325_s52
did u think the m3 would win?

PM next time whore*no-no*

Jon@Bimmersport
11-27-2002, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by e30_325_s52
did u think the m3 would win?


not really...

e30_325_s52
11-27-2002, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by E46_lover



not really...

well i kinda thought he would in the first lik 4 sec of the race cuz the f was burnin out lik crazy...so i thought the m3 would be gone down the street

Jon@Bimmersport
11-27-2002, 12:23 PM
no the 550 had an "ok" launch considering the power of the car plus the weight of it...the M3 didnt have any launch as far as i remember, i think he just shifted normally and jus floored it...which ****ed him up because of turbo lag...vs the naturally aspirated V10 of the ferrari.

e30_325_s52
11-27-2002, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
no the 550 had an "ok" launch considering the power of the car plus the weight of it...the M3 didnt have any launch as far as i remember, i think he just shifted normally and jus floored it...which ****ed him up because of turbo lag...vs the naturally aspirated V10 of the ferrari.


i think he should of reved it up b4 the race to fill up the "horn" of the turbo for less turbo lag...but i guess it didnt and...the ferrari had to much tire spin i as i rememebr..i coud be wrong

Jon@Bimmersport
11-28-2002, 08:52 AM
yea he took a lil while to hook, but thats because you have to consider the power that the ferrari has compared to a turbo car, which has shitty low end...he has lowered compression but boost is high...he should have launched right before boost so he hooks easily and then the turbo's already spooled it would have been a better race

e30_325_s52
11-28-2002, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by E46_lover
yea he took a lil while to hook, but thats because you have to consider the power that the ferrari has compared to a turbo car, which has shitty low end...he has lowered compression but boost is high...he should have launched right before boost so he hooks easily and then the turbo's already spooled it would have been a better race

ya cus ur talkin bout a v12...and whoa..and a ferrari...damn lik of boost haha