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lilhit
05-07-2006, 05:09 PM
Which would you guys buy?

propr'one
05-07-2006, 05:11 PM
depends. you modding or not?

d12
05-07-2006, 05:28 PM
cls 500

Furious
05-07-2006, 05:28 PM
depends. you modding or not?

what does that have to do with anything? who the hell is gonna mod a brand new car, especially when its under warranty and really dont need to be modded.

im bias to the BMW, more power, looks way better (dont like the back end of the CLS 500) and i just have to have manual (or smg)

propr'one
05-07-2006, 05:31 PM
:huh?: carlsson, kleeman, brabus, hamann, hartge, rieger

i dont even know what those words mean

IMO, both cars are ugly, benz stock is less ugly

4-banger
05-07-2006, 05:35 PM
pics and a poll

Understated
05-07-2006, 05:42 PM
Cls!

Furious
05-07-2006, 06:04 PM
:huh?: carlsson, kleeman, brabus, hamann, hartge, rieger

i dont even know what those words mean

IMO, both cars are ugly, benz stock is less ugly



lol name one guy know you know that slapped one of those kits on a new car here in canada.. im not saying the guy who asked the thread question wouldnt , but lets get real like 1% or less do that.. buying a new car on the basis of if your going to mod or not is pretty silly.

propr'one
05-07-2006, 06:17 PM
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69688

brand new bumper, brand new car


edit: ok so 1% of people. so i asked if he falls into that 1%. got issue with anything else i said? I dont even think i directed the question at you anyway. tell you what, you buy a 550i, dont make a post asking anyone's opinion, and i wont give you mine:)

Furious
05-07-2006, 06:21 PM
asthetics ok ill give you that, i was thinking in terms of performance but forget that "modding" means everything. i still stand by my word though. i think propone actually gave some half decent advice yay!

propr'one
05-07-2006, 06:30 PM
Yeah, sorry. I should've been more clear, i was focusing on the aesthetics of the cars, not power:)


what do you guys think of this though:
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/09/rocket05_01.jpg

i think its god awful (brabus CLS 500) for some reason, other than carlsson, i really dont like aftermarket benz stuff:(

AMG_POWER
05-07-2006, 06:45 PM
depends if you need back seats then 550 if you dont and you need to be an attention whore CLS500.

Understated
05-07-2006, 06:50 PM
http://www.e46fanatics.com/members/E46_Angemon/CLS55.jpg

Carlsson front bumper *mw*

propr'one
05-07-2006, 06:55 PM
yeah that is pretty hot man, i would definatly say that carlsson appearance cls > bmw.

lilhit
05-07-2006, 07:22 PM
Hey, im not gonna mod anything but in terms of appearance, performance, luxury as an all around package which car would you rather own?

propr'one
05-07-2006, 07:30 PM
Stock for stock, i vote benz

lilhit
05-07-2006, 07:35 PM
Off the line which car is faster? and is 340 pound feet of torque enough to throw you back in your seat?

propr'one
05-07-2006, 07:41 PM
yes, 340 ft/lbs of torque is plenty

cls 500
1/4 Mile ET: 14.010
1/4 Mile MPH: 99.320

guesstimates at the 550 are low 13.s

the bmw is much faster

maxx318i
05-07-2006, 08:17 PM
Bimmer 550

what forum is this? *uzi*

M3ti Compact
05-07-2006, 08:20 PM
From a looks standpoint, the CLS looks like an upside down bananna.

Perfect if your chinese and don't speak it.

Seriously, no one here can give you a proper answer because no one has actually driven both cars. Jill McIntosh's article in this weeks Toronto star wheels explains why this is the best (May 6th, page G2). Read it, do what she says. http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1146741320296&call_pageid=968867497088&col=969048871196



Don't ask me what car's best for you
But here's some advice for finding your vehicle
May 6, 2006. 01:00 AM


"Dear Ms. McIntosh," the email began, "I am currently driving an Audi A6 1998 model. I am interested in purchasing a new all-wheel or four-wheel car.

"Can you suggest your top two recommendations and provide a brief explanation for the reasons?"

Like other auto reviewers at Wheels, I get requests like this all the time.

"I'm in the market for a car," a reader will say.

"Please tell me what I should buy, along with your reasons for recommending it."

I don't blame the writers. Car shopping can be a royal pain, and it would be nice to have someone take your hand and do it for you.

But while we members of the Wheels team are flattered that you think that highly of our opinion, it's not something we can do.

Cars are just like shoes: I can tell you about them, but eventually you have to put your own feet into them and see how they fit.

For all that they cost, cars can be practically impulse buys; it's been reported that the average test drive lasts 12 minutes. I've received letters from several people who discovered that their car wasn't really what they wanted, not long after they got it home.

The main reason I can't recommend specific vehicles is that the car has to fit the driver, not the other way round. To assess a car, you first have to sit in it: are you comfortable, is everything visible, can you reach all the pedals and controls?

You then have to test-drive it thoroughly. Take it on the street and on the highway. Take it into a parking lot to see if you can handily put it into a spot, both nose- and tail-in.

You're assessing how the car will perform for you in a normal day:

If there's enough power for merging, if its turning radius is tight enough for easy parking, if you like the steering feel, if you're comfortable with the way it accelerates and brakes, if the seats get too hard after an hour or the seatbelt digs into your neck.

Something that irritates you on the test drive won't improve with time.

Take all the stuff you use in an average day and try it out in the car. That can include a child seat, coffee mug, briefcase, even your clothes (many women buy SUVs in jeans and sneakers, then discover it's tough to climb in with a business dress on).

Think about everything you do with the vehicle.

If you buckle in your children, can you easily reach every seatbelt? Are the folding seats simple to operate? Is it easy to pull down the liftgate or trunk lid?

Can your elderly parents enter and exit satisfactorily? Will this auto hold everything you take to the cottage? And is there enough room for your dog?

No car is going to be perfect. Even the model I would buy — no, I'm not going to tell you what it is — has a few things I dislike, but they're outweighed by what the car does well.

Look at what's right and what isn't, and decide which side outweighs the other.

These are all things I can't figure out for you, and they can make all the difference.

Car reviews are useful. By pointing out a vehicle's pros and cons, they can help you decide whether to put it on your test-drive list.

Note flaws mentioned in the article and, once you're in the car, check whether they affect you.

But in the end, reviews are just tools designed to help with your decision, not to make it for you.

When it comes time to buy, the most important derrière in the driver's seat is yours.

lilhit
05-07-2006, 08:28 PM
From a looks standpoint, the CLS looks like an upside down bananna.

Perfect if your chinese and don't speak it.

Seriously, no one here can give you a proper answer because no one has actually driven both cars. Jill McIntosh's article in this weeks Toronto star wheels explains why this is the best (May 6th, page G2). Read it, do what she says. http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1146741320296&call_pageid=968867497088&col=969048871196


I am not going to purchase a 90 000 vehicle off the opinions of some people on the board, of coarse im gonna take further actions. It is just out of curiousity what others think of the two vehicles in question.

Lester
05-07-2006, 08:40 PM
Which would you guys buy?I'd stay away from Chryslers myself*angel*

Miguel
05-07-2006, 08:43 PM
this isnt even a competition. if you took longer than 0.0001 seconds to pick CLS you're an idiot.

Rampage
05-07-2006, 09:07 PM
CLS Hands down

The e60 is nice, but the CLS is just waaay nicer

Gamite
05-07-2006, 09:57 PM
Bimmer 550

what forum is this? *uzi*


a non biased one.

I pick CLS as well.

FastM3
05-07-2006, 10:18 PM
Ya ya ya, we all know they both look nice on the outside and they are both pretty fast, but when it comes to that much money, I look at quality as well, and for a perfect example, just sit inside both of those cars and examine. You'll see a huge difference in quality.

550i > CLS anyday.

M-ATTACK
05-07-2006, 11:04 PM
I would CHOOSE the 550 with m package unless yuo buy the AMG package for the benz, then id hit the benz,

stock trim vs sotck trim = benze
amg kit vs m kit = benze
stock trim benze vs m package bimmer = bmw

Prash
05-07-2006, 11:30 PM
Get the CLS. If you want more power order the new '07 CLS550. 5.5L 381hp 7 spd auto.

M3ti Compact
05-08-2006, 12:00 AM
Ya ya ya, we all know they both look nice on the outside and they are both pretty fast, but when it comes to that much money, I look at quality as well, and for a perfect example, just sit inside both of those cars and examine. You'll see a huge difference in quality.

550i > CLS anyday.

Yup...and let me add to that...

Not only is there the issue of Mercedes quality (which is not as good as BMW and other competition), there is also the way it drives!

The whole Mercedes driving experiences for me was so eye-opening it leads me to believe that buyers purchased these cars without bothering to thoroughly test drive any of the competition.

And I've driven a LOT of cars. Hence why I stress the importance of a test drive rather than judging the book by it's cover.

FastM3
05-08-2006, 09:49 AM
I can't believe how many people said CLS. There's absolutly no comparison here. I've driven both, and one after another as well, and honestly I'm not biased, but the CLS doesn't compare! There is power there but it's so sluggish and the interior is unbelievably cheap as shit. The only thing the CLS has going is the body, which I personally like, but isn't worth taking over a much nicer fully loaded 550i.

550i is cheaper.
550i has a better engine.
550i has more power.
550i has manual
550i is faster 0-100km/h.
550i has better fuel economy.
550i weighs less.
550i has better warranty even!

BennyL
05-08-2006, 11:04 AM
yeah, I don't know how you can compare... the CLS is possibly the ugliest chrysler out there. in fact, I think the Dodge Caliber is nicer. the CLS is such a funny-looking car. it honestly looks like an up-side-down boat on wheels.

and as Pasta said... sit in it. it feels cheap and crappy. sit in the E60. it feels like real quality.

then drive it.

kerisabe
05-08-2006, 11:17 AM
CLS is a more luxury comfort type of car.. on the other hand the 550i is more of a sport luxury.

CLS = no manual tranny, sport susp is kindda mushy compared to the 550i sport package of course. Great car still. If ure getting this dont forget the AMG package.. especially if ure not gonna mod it, since it's gonna give the car a more aggressive/sporty look.

550i = manual tranny/smg*th-up* Also if ure not modding it, get the M-package! The kit looks sick on the car.. very aggressive*smoke*

FastM3
05-08-2006, 11:38 AM
CLS is a more luxury comfort type of car.. on the other hand the 550i is more of a sport luxury.

But there is no "luxury" when the plastic in the car is the exact same plastic that's in a Chrysler Sebring.

lilhit
05-08-2006, 05:19 PM
Im leaning towards the 550i m package. Now the question is what colour combo?
i want Alpine white on black, but budds has a carbon black on black m package coming in the next 2 weeks so a much shorter wait. Whats carbon black like? i cant find any pics of it on a 5er

Understated
05-08-2006, 05:31 PM
perhaps i'm missing something :confused:

but which part of this would i find in a sebring?

http://www.autoweek.com/files/weekart/2004/1025/cls_interior1.jpg

http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/content/media_library/unitedkingdom/mpc_unitedkingdom/passenger_cars/products/new_cars/coupes/cls-class/models/interior/cls_interior_zoom.object-Single-MEDIA.tmp/cls_interior_zoom_still.jpg

SickFinga
05-08-2006, 05:37 PM
CLS quite possible the hottest looking sedan ever made, period.

FastM3
05-08-2006, 05:53 PM
perhaps i'm missing something :confused:

but which part of this would i find in a sebring?

http://www.autoweek.com/files/weekart/2004/1025/cls_interior1.jpg

http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/content/media_library/unitedkingdom/mpc_unitedkingdom/passenger_cars/products/new_cars/coupes/cls-class/models/interior/cls_interior_zoom.object-Single-MEDIA.tmp/cls_interior_zoom_still.jpg
HAHA! Looks can be deceiving. Sit in it...and touch it.



Im leaning towards the 550i m package. Now the question is what colour combo?
i want Alpine white on black, but budds has a carbon black on black m package coming in the next 2 weeks so a much shorter wait. Whats carbon black like? i cant find any pics of it on a 5er
Pictures won't do Carbon Black any justice. You have to see it in person/in the sun. It's fairly dark but on a nice sunny day it has a dark blue tinge and with the metallic in it, it looks really sharp. If you like Alpine White, it's worth the wait! Get it with Auburn leather, looks outstanding! *mw*

kerisabe
05-08-2006, 07:17 PM
CLS quite possible the hottest looking sedan ever made, period.

I gotta agree on this one. It's either u hate it or love it.

Gianpaolo_E46
05-08-2006, 07:24 PM
550i with m package id take over a cls in a heartbeat. cls 55 is a whole different story, that car is sex on 4 wheels.

propr'one
05-08-2006, 08:18 PM
whatever car you get, sedans HAVE to be black. coupes i'd go red/white. but IMO, sedan = black on black leather, with black tints

Gianpaolo_E46
05-08-2006, 09:16 PM
whatever car you get, sedans HAVE to be black. coupes i'd go red/white. but IMO, sedan = black on black leather, with black tints
nothing wrong with black on black coupes with tints!

AMG_POWER
05-08-2006, 09:57 PM
btw i'd take new cls500 over 550 you know why coz 2007 cls550 Yes its 550 will have 380 hp and 390 ft of trq and will do 100 under 5 seconds :D

propr'one
05-08-2006, 09:58 PM
one of these days, you and mark both getting carjacked. mark my works

Rolled_Out
05-09-2006, 08:52 AM
You want a slushbox that will attract attention because it looks nice and that’s about it? Choose the CLS.
You want a ‘real’ car that you can beat the hell out of, looks nice, drives perfectly, handles better and is fast as hell too? Choose the 550.

550 all the way, it’s one hell of a machine and is much better than the CLS in many, many ways.

1BADBMW
05-09-2006, 02:57 PM
:cool:

Prash
05-09-2006, 05:54 PM
btw i'd take new cls500 over 550 you know why coz 2007 cls550 Yes its 550 will have 380 hp and 390 ft of trq and will do 100 under 5 seconds :D

I don't think enough people are aware of this fact. Considering that it has the 7 sp auto as well, I think it'll run similar times to the W210 E55's. 0 - 60 in 4.8ish and q/m around 13.3ish. I don't think a 550i (even a 6spd manual or SMG) will be able to keep up with a CLS550.

SickFinga
05-09-2006, 06:01 PM
btw i'd take new cls500 over 550 you know why coz 2007 cls550 Yes its 550 will have 380 hp and 390 ft of trq and will do 100 under 5 seconds :D

Vlad, you do not make any sense whatsoever

"I'd take CLS500 because there will be CLS550"

WTF???!!!!!!!

If anything, that means stay away from CLS500 and get 550i, or wait for CLS550.

I don't think enough people are aware of this fact. Considering that it has the 7 sp auto as well, I think it'll run similar times to the W210 E55's. 0 - 60 in 4.8ish and q/m around 13.3ish. I don't think a 550i (even a 6spd manual or SMG) will be able to keep up with a CLS550.



W210 E55 was slow as hell, it never ran 4.8ish and 13.3ish
It was as fast as e39 540i 6spd.

AMG_POWER
05-09-2006, 06:10 PM
Vlad, you do not make any sense whatsoever

"I'd take CLS500 because there will be CLS550"

WTF???!!!!!!!

If anything, that means stay away from CLS500 and get 550i, or wait for CLS550.





W210 E55 was slow as hell, it never ran 4.8ish and 13.3ish
It was as fast as e39 540i 6spd.


What i mean is that 2007 cls500( which will be cls550) will have 380 hp 5.5 engine!


YEa w210 never run under 5 seconds.

FastM3
05-09-2006, 06:29 PM
Holy shit! Who gives a fack about a CLS550 with 7777777777 speed AUTTTTTTTTTTTO, and 0-10000000km/h in under 5 seconds when you can then bump yourself up to an M5 and destory your 150 probably plus thousand Mercedes-Plastic!

Quack
05-09-2006, 07:17 PM
W210 E55 was slow as hell, it never ran 4.8ish and 13.3ish
It was as fast as e39 540i 6spd.

didn't we have this same discussion before, 1999 W210 E55 runs 0-60 in 4.8sec, its the newer facelifted models like the 2001 W210 E55's that run slow

europrince
05-11-2006, 11:54 PM
All you people who say these cars are ugly are sick. THe Bangle but has dictated automotive design. Look at the new S class. The CLS has to be one of the sexiest cars on the market. The only criticism I have of it is that the design is of Italian descent and not German. It can sure pass for something Giugaro would pen.

2K6E60
05-13-2006, 08:36 PM
quoted from a friend over on the e60 forums.

"if you paint the CLS yellow it looks like a banana, it drives like one too"

I tend to agree... CLS < 550.

lvan
05-14-2006, 01:15 AM
I would go with a benz. I was knocking on a 2006 530i front grill, mannnn it was too gentle for $70k dollars car.

550 has a nice engine and very fast but front end it just too cheap for that expensive car.

europrince
08-02-2006, 12:33 AM
I'm of the believe that each brand has its own following. I don't think the two are interchangeable in buyers' eyes. Just my thought.

BimmerboyPH
08-08-2006, 02:51 PM
BMW definitly!

vertakul
08-08-2006, 11:43 PM
this shouldn't even be a debate.. CLS 500 for SURE.. it's such a pimp car.