View Full Version : Whats better?? need help tire experts....

craz azn
02-05-2006, 03:13 PM
So for this year, I am going to start tracking my car.... so tires are going to be a big influence... I have a set of 15s for my e30, which will have Toyos on them...

But I have the opportunity to buy a set of Michelin Pilot Sport Cups, in the correct size too, which is good, however which will be better on track?? Toyo RA1s or the Pilot Sport Cups??

I dont seem to find anything about toyo on tirerack so I dunno where else to look... any help appreciated *th-up*

paul christians
02-05-2006, 08:30 PM
ONE thing to say TOYO RA1...............

02-06-2006, 10:50 PM
Don't touch R-compounds until you are experienced. That means years for most casual students.

Something with good feedback like Falken RT-615's, Hankook R-S2's, or even Yoko ES100's would be much more useful to learn on. A hell of a lot cheaper, too.

craz azn
02-10-2006, 11:18 PM
Jay, which one is the best outta those 3? I tryed lookin around but I read lots of mixed opinions.... Kinda leanin towards getting the Hankook ones... how would a Falken Ziex 512 hold up to the RS-2s?? obviously not as good I suppose but for the feedback characteristics...???

02-13-2006, 12:32 AM
Those tires aren't even comparable. A floppy sidewalled all-season to a borderline R-compound street/track tire.

The RT-615 is the best, then the RS2. Don't track 512's.

02-13-2006, 01:02 AM
Don't track 512's.

Tell tomek that, lol. He was raving about them a while ago.

02-13-2006, 01:52 PM
I think he actually chunked them too, or at least ripped the shoulders pretty badly. The sidewalls are just too soft to be lapping on them.

craz azn
02-13-2006, 06:00 PM
Tell tomek that, lol. He was raving about them a while ago.

Thats what I thought :confused: ...lol, wow im really confused now... guess i gotta give Wheels Direct a call...

02-13-2006, 10:49 PM
i thought the 512 werent bad on the track?

craz azn
02-13-2006, 11:37 PM
The sidewalls are just too soft to be lapping on them.

Would the sidewalls be okay if it was a 40series tire? ie 205/40/17??? still gonna prolly get the rt615, but just as an opinion/desperate option....

02-13-2006, 11:52 PM
I auto-x'd my 215/40/17 512's...they're soft.

If you want a decent tire at the same price level, look at the Kumho SPT. Still not nearly as stiff as the RT-615 or R-S2, but much more suited to the track than the all-seasons.

craz azn
02-14-2006, 12:14 AM
Thanks Jay... ima go take a trip to wheels direct in a couple days.. see whats teh scoop there...