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Gianpaolo_E46
12-08-2005, 06:29 PM
I've never herd of this brand but apperantly they're supposed to be the best money can buy. is this true? i think i finally need to buy winter tires. Also where can i buy these tires?

M3ti Compact
12-08-2005, 06:58 PM
They are the best winter tire out there. Good luck getting any of the more common sizes now though...

Steelcase and Wheels Direct both sell Nokians, but last I checked they were out of the standard BMW size 205/55/16. Some members say that tire shops in the west end might still have them.

Gianpaolo_E46
12-08-2005, 07:44 PM
well apperantly i need at least 17's...330's come with bigger brakes.

Quack
12-08-2005, 07:52 PM
great tire indeed, made in Finland, design for their weather, if it's good enough for them it's good enough for Canada :D

TheMadChigga
12-08-2005, 08:07 PM
I have Nokia RSi on my car right now, 235/45/17, pretty good for snow tires, the dry grip is lot better than other crap, although you do have some of those 200mph capable Michelines out there, but this is good for the money.

Quack
12-08-2005, 08:11 PM
I have Nokia RSi on my car right now, 235/45/17, pretty good for snow tires, the dry grip is lot better than other crap, although you do have some of those 200mph capable Michelines out there, but this is good for the money.


how much was the set?

Jari
12-08-2005, 09:51 PM
Ihave been preaching Nokians for 6 years. Best snow tire on the market. They make a little noise but nothing unbearable. also not a performance tire so keep that in mind before trying to take the ramps at triple the posted speed.

Mystikal
12-08-2005, 11:31 PM
They are no longer the best.

The Michelin X-Ice, Blizzak WS-50, Kumho KW-11, and others are all better overall, according to Consumer Reports (which do excellent tire testing).

But, like any other marketing, people will still claim they are the best and "feel" they are better because it is drilled into their conscious that it is true. Unbiased testing shows otherwise, however.

SickFinga
12-09-2005, 10:58 AM
They are no longer the best.

The Michelin X-Ice, Blizzak WS-50, Kumho KW-11, and others are all better overall, according to Consumer Reports (which do excellent tire testing).

But, like any other marketing, people will still claim they are the best and "feel" they are better because it is drilled into their conscious that it is true. Unbiased testing shows otherwise, however.


Interesting, just did a search on Kumho and stumbled upon russian review of them.

Results are different.

Studless tires:

1. Nokian Hakkapeliitta Q (7.9 points)
2. Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50 (7.8)
3. Continental ContiVikingContact 2 (7.6)
4. Michelin Maxi-Ice (7.5)
5. Goodyear Ultra Grip 6 (6.6)


Kumho KW11 with studs only got 7.0 points


http://www.autoreview.ru/new_site/year2002/n19/winter/1.htm


For anyone who cares i can translate the charts

Quack
12-09-2005, 02:21 PM
I guess every country has their own testing methods, looks like american made tires do well in NA & european made tires do well in europe

SickFinga
12-09-2005, 04:50 PM
I guess every country has their own testing methods, looks like american made tires do well in NA & european made tires do well in europe


None of the tires list by Jay are american.
The only american tire tested by russian magazine was Goodyear and yeah, it got the second lowest spot. The only worse tire was russian made, and it lost by .1 point to goodyear

Kumho - Korea
Michelin - French
Bridgestone - Japan

Quack
12-09-2005, 06:05 PM
yeah your right Vlad, for some reason I thought Michelin was american

Bmwstylz
12-09-2005, 06:21 PM
i ran an 318is for a winter on Nokian Hakkas and it was absolutely awesome driving.

total cost $20 for all 4 on rims from some rich dude who had just bought an e60 ;)

static
12-09-2005, 09:06 PM
^^^ what he said

have my new hakkapelitas (nokian-2) on and driving in my light e30 in snowstorm today was actually fun

Mystikal
12-09-2005, 11:19 PM
The Kumho KW11 was the #1 rated tire a few years back, the Michelin X-Ice is now (though the Kumho wasn't in this recent test).

For my personal standpoint, I just went from my Nokian NRW's to the new Nexen Eurowin's. The traction on dry/wet/snow/ice is WAY better than the Nokians, which still had quite a bit of tread.

I would scan the article (which shows how mediocre the Nokians are nowadays) but my scanner is throwing a fit.

Axxe
12-11-2005, 07:49 PM
I have WS-50's, and other than the quick wear, they have awesome, linear grip. When they slide, they don't "let go," they still have a lot of grip even when sliding.

Rears - 2 seasons TOPS (lots of parking lot drifting is the main reason)
Fronts- 3 seasons (maybe 4)