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325iSBimmer
07-28-2005, 01:57 AM
Well, the time has come since I have been getting sick and tired of looking at my cars deteriorating paint and bodywork. *thmbsdwn*

From what I can see the whole car has been repainted before and the quality of the finish (shine/no orange peel) was great BUT the prep work/body work under the paint is nothing short of crap (quick & easy) :(

I want to keep the car for a while longer yet and so I want the next paint job to be of top quality. *th-up* At the same time I do have a budget of around $3000.
So after many trips to different body shops and researching around I have decided to do most of the resoration myself. I dont think I will actually lay down the paint, but Im thinking about it :idea:

In order to get top results its best to remove all the trim and panels and see what shape the underside of the body/frame work is.

In about 14 hours over 2 days I have removed so far
-bumpers
-nose grill
-front fenders
-hood
-trunk lid
-all trunk linings
-door panels

I've also just quickly gone over the whole car with a scraper and exposed the bad areas. Unfortunately I'm not too happy with what I've found. *sad* Theres a fair amount of rust. Some of which looks to have nothing to do with the repaint. Other areas are bad because of the shady body work. *shiner*

which is a whole other topic. The whole car is covered in a 2 mm think layer of bondo. some areas even 5mm. Aftrer speaking to many proffesionals on this they say its the quickest way to cover up body damage and early rust and will last for a couple years before you start to notice this. *mumble*

No wonder the car looked so damn good when I bought it. It must have just been repainted and then dumped knowing what lay beneath. As I strip areas and look closer the car is starting to tell a interesting story. One of which I have to just listen too and fix what needs to be done. I only wish I could meet the piece of K-9 crap that painted/told someone to paint the car the way it was done. :mad:

More to come. pictures tomorrow. but right now im calling it a nite. Just thought I would get this thread going.

Justin e36
07-28-2005, 04:55 AM
sounds like what I did.

I removed all the same stuff + sunroof panel, mirrors, windshield, rear window, etc. Stripped all the paint and found the same as you, quite a bit of rust under there. everything was sandblasted down, including the back of the panels. Backs of panels have all been blown with two coats of undercoating. The other side has all been primed, based, painted, and cleared. Couldn't be happier.

Fortunately my car had original paint before.

The only part which sucked was putting everything back together again... such a pain to do all the panels (interior + exterior panels / trim pieces / etc.)

Mine came out of the shop maybe around 6 weeks ago now.

Good luck!

J

app
07-28-2005, 08:05 AM
Justin, how difficult was it to remove the windows? Just need the right tools? Or recommend a shop taking them out?

Justin e36
07-28-2005, 12:44 PM
rear window is easy.

1. remove C pillars
2. unplug wires for window (radio antenna and defroster)
3. remove moulding around window
4. insert window seal remover tool
5. move all the way around window
6. lift window.

the windshield is a lot more difficult. I managed to get the whole thing cut around, and lifted it up........... put it down on the floor.. then CRAAAAAACK... right through the middle. Had to replace it.

Bruno
07-28-2005, 02:03 PM
Mine is easier as there is only harness and seats to remove when I painted the interior.
The engine compartment was painted black last week. Now I just have to get a nice coat of paint on the outside and I can install the new engine.

325iSBimmer
07-28-2005, 03:29 PM
Mine is easier as there is only harness and seats to remove when I painted the interior.
The engine compartment was painted black last week. Now I just have to get a nice coat of paint on the outside and I can install the new engine.

I still got a ways to go before im at that stage. I might be interested in ur M50 cams. I'll let you know in a few weeks when im closer to being finished and see how much money is left over.

app
07-28-2005, 05:55 PM
325isbimmer, are you patching any holes that might have been filled with bondo? I have a nasty hole in my left rear quarter, not sure how I'm gonna weld it, etc. Limited welding experience, and not sure what body hammers or shaping I'd need to do.

Justin e36
07-28-2005, 06:07 PM
^^ i know that wasn't directed to me, but definately cut it out and weld a new piece of metal on there... I wasn't that good at first. I got some scrap metal from the junk yard to practice on first. It helped quite a bit. With the car finished you can't tell where has been welded...

app
07-28-2005, 06:56 PM
what did you use to cut it? Cutting wheel? what do you recommend in terms of a cutting wheel?

Always appreciate the insight. :)

325iSBimmer
07-28-2005, 10:32 PM
Here are some pics of the car when I first bought it and the painted looked mint! *th-up*
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53516&stc=1

I put these OEM 330Ci stagered rims on it which I liked better than the ASA rims.
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53517

325iSBimmer
07-28-2005, 11:32 PM
sounds like what I did.

I removed all the same stuff + sunroof panel, mirrors, windshield, rear window, etc. Stripped all the paint and found the same as you, quite a bit of rust under there. everything was sandblasted down, including the back of the panels. Backs of panels have all been blown with two coats of undercoating. The other side has all been primed, based, painted, and cleared. Couldn't be happier.

Fortunately my car had original paint before.

The only part which sucked was putting everything back together again... such a pain to do all the panels (interior + exterior panels / trim pieces / etc.)

Mine came out of the shop maybe around 6 weeks ago now.

Good luck!

J

did you do the sandblasting urself?
Im gonna sandblast as well and then treat the rusted areas that arent rusted trough with a porduct called POR-15. not sure if ur familiar with it but once applied properly it gaurantees to never let rust come back. (to the treated areas that is)

app
07-29-2005, 12:00 AM
Let me know how por-15 goes, I need to do that to my sideskirts which are rusting horribly. I think I gotta rebuild the jackpoints.

325iSBimmer
07-29-2005, 12:41 AM
Here are some pics of the nite before I started to strip the car and look into the suspect spots *sad*

theres lots of bubbling on the drivers side front of the hood and along the seam on the side
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53523&stc=1
The drivers door paint had craked and water got in behind it and started to peel the paint back. *shiner*
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53524&stc=1
the trunk lid is starting to rust along the bottom and by the plate.
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53525&stc=1
Right front fender was completely rusted along the bottom. and missing the sealing rubber for the inner fender :puke:
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53526&stc=1
the left rear quarter was starting to rust on the fender lip and corner. BAD :mad:
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53527&stc=1

325iSBimmer
07-29-2005, 01:33 AM
Heres what happenes when you slide into a bathtub at 2km/h dont ask what a bath tub was doing around an icy turn at the back of my shop
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53528&stc=1
some more bubbling and paint peeling by the emblem. what a shame on a BMW
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53529&stc=1
rust under the moulding and working its way around
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53530&stc=1
This, ladies and gentlemen is what will happen to your trunk floor 2 years after you discover that ur battery has been leaking its acid out and running to the drip hole in the trunk gloor
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53531&stc=1
paint easily chips off on the bottom rocker gaurd material and more rust on the corner of the door starting
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53532&stc=1

app
07-29-2005, 08:44 AM
ouch, yeah they just covered it up. That sucks man.

Storamin
07-29-2005, 09:41 AM
Wow, whoever sold me that car I would go and light them up. Do you think it's worth saving the car? That is a shitload of rust, all over the place.

325iSBimmer
07-29-2005, 09:56 AM
Unfortunately I wolesale bought it from another dealer in Toronto who bought it from the same auciton that i go to. So I couldnt really bitch to him about it 2 years later. They would just laugh at me. The only thing I would like to do is run a car fax and find out who the previoius owner was and ask where he got the car repainted.
I dont believe the owner was the one responisble for the bad paint. I think it was the repair shop who took it upon thmesleves to make the car look great but didnt properly prep the metal underneath. For all I know the onwer paid a top buck for the paint job :confused:

rayman
07-31-2005, 12:39 PM
looks like a lot of work. might be easier (maybe even cheaper) to sell it and pick up another car. i don't think i've ever seen an e36 with that must rust. actually, out here in vancouver, it's really rare to see any e36 with rust on it.

Justin e36
07-31-2005, 01:00 PM
that's not too much rust, you're right though.. bad prep work. my car looked like it only had a bit of rust here and there.. nothing major, till I stripped all the paint off and saw what was hiding underneath. A lot of the rust formed on the other side of the metal and was taking its time eating through or bubbling up.

Everywhere there was rust was cut out, new pieces welded, smoothed, the back of all panels were undercoated/rust proofed, and the fronts were properly prepped and painted. Took almost 2 weeks to get all the coats on there and dried properly. When I bought the car, paint was mint. Then this past year I didn't rust proof it and over winter the bubbles came up all over the place.

Most of the rust on your car looks surface still, can be grinded down and filled in properly. The only thing I'd be worried about is the trunk...

Justin e36
07-31-2005, 01:07 PM
btw, the reason the rear fender lips rust is because there's a lip behind the fender where they curled the metal in for reinforcement. This ledge likes to collect dirt/sand and consequently water and salt. Same with with earlier model Honda's. My recommendation is to take the wheels off, get under there and clean it out properly. Fill in that ledge with whatever body filler you have, then put some rust-check on it. Let the rust check dry out (around a week), wash off any excess with soapy water, then undercoat on top of it to seal it in. That's what I did.. we'll see how it holds up.

325iSBimmer
07-31-2005, 05:22 PM
Yeah, the trunk has to be cut out. Im going with a dual exhaust Quad tailpipe setup so the side where the battery try will be cut and welded to look like the left so that way I can get another sull size muffler in there. and the I gotta find the spare tire well to weld in new

Justin e36
07-31-2005, 05:32 PM
sounds like you're doing my exact same project. lol..
already did the cut outs for the quad exhaust.

You have a few options.

1) cut out the spare tire wheel well. Mount an e46 m3 muffler or similar with dual in, quad out. (they're BIG mufflers)

2) mount a single dual in quad out muffler where your cat is currently, move your cat closer to the engine.

3) go with a true dual muffler setup. (sounds like what you want) In which case you will need to cut the battery part out and move it around 6" higher for proper clearance and heat. You will need to get a proper heat shield there to protect your battery and drill a hole in your wheel well to the rear and run the battery vent there instead. (away from the exhaust).

4) relocate your battery to the engine compartment. The space is already there for it. Positive goes to the positive terminal, negative goes to a ground on your body. No vent extension is needed then. You can also then cut your battery area out and weld a new piece of metal there. But as I said, you only need 6" clearance or so. (in reality you only need 3" or so, depending on the height of the muffler.. but you should have space at the top to let the heat escape properly.

Mind you, I did mine with a M3 rear bumper.. which lends itself to a bit more clearance for the tail pipes.

I cut out another hole in my rear diffuser, used the cut out pieces to plastic weld onto the edges to give it a finished look. Sanded, painted, and looks stock. :) ... not bad for my first attempt at plastic bodywork.

J

Justin e36
07-31-2005, 05:36 PM
what did you use to cut it? Cutting wheel? what do you recommend in terms of a cutting wheel?

Always appreciate the insight. :)

yep, first grind all the previous paint off to see what you're working with underneath. then score the cut marks.. (I use a crafters pencil to mark the lines, then score it. Then a cutting wheel to cut it out. Always cut away small areas at a time, check fitament and slowly cut the hole bigger to size.

J

325iSBimmer
07-31-2005, 05:43 PM
Im gonna get the exhaust hangers and shield form the dealer and then just mount it on the other side..that way it is closer to something that would have come from the factory. I work at an exhaust shop so Im going to use 2 single in dual out muffler and just remake my pipes from the flanges back.. I already made the system that's on my car and the one on Revshots old car.

I;ve been working the last week and weekend on my car and heres how she came along.

Fenders came off and are being tossed. Just getting new ones to make my body work life easier *th-up*
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53560&stc=1
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53561&stc=1
What lay underneath the drivers door bubble :puke:
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53562&stc=1
back left quarterhttp://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53563&stc=1
Trunk Floor area is being cut out a new modified one will take its place to make room for the dual exhaust
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53564&stc=1

325iSBimmer
07-31-2005, 07:14 PM
Some minor surace rust built up around the bumper supports. will be snadblasted and recoated with ruberrized undercoating (BMW stuff)
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53565&stc=1
Right hand rear quarter. lots of sandblasting and POR-15 to be done there *sleep*
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53566&stc=1
rear interior guted *th-up*
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53567&stc=1
hopefully i can leave most of the dash intact. just wanna check under the carpets for any signs of corrosion
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53568&stc=1
whats left of the battery tray. This will be cut out and made to match the other side. Dry cell battery will take its place in the trunk stereo install.
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53569&stc=1

app
07-31-2005, 08:35 PM
Fantastic pictures. Starting to make me wonder what's underneath my car.

Any sandblasting I can do in the comfort of my own garage, or its recommended to take that sorta thing to a shop?

Justin e36
07-31-2005, 09:54 PM
damn, you've got some serious rust in the trunk there... had a leak or something? ... don't forget to take the plastic piece off the trunk liner where the trunk latch is too.. I found a bit of rust bubbling up under there too.

if you need new fenders, lemme know.

J

325iSBimmer
08-01-2005, 12:56 AM
JUSTIN, I do need new fenders. Im thinking of just getting brand new becuase they come preped and ready for paint. but fi u have some in great shape then let me know. I need a hood and trunk lid too.

Yeah i had a serious battery acid leak. as u can see the metal was just eaten away.

The bondo was easily as thick as 2 quarters layiing flat on top of each other.
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53572&stc=1
removing the doors so I can work on them seperatly and get the door jambs painted nicely too
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53573&stc=1
Everything is very dirty/dusty becuase the trunk floor is rusted out. soon I will relocate my 2 12" JL into their custom trunk isntall with my 1 Zapco Amps and a full size 17" ///M rim
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53575&stc=1
Doors and windows removed. Im waiting for the guy to come remove my windshield and back window
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53576&stc=1
another view. my newly rebuilt 99 YZ125 waiting to be sold in the background
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53577&stc=1

325iSBimmer
08-01-2005, 01:10 AM
Paint stripper at work on the door
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53578&stc=1
Darko (Darkness95M3) at work on the door. I owe the biggest thanks to this gentleman because he put in a full days work on his time off and stripped most of the car as I watched in awe and wondered how a guy twice my age is able to run a family, house, business and still find time to help frineds. help was greatly appreciated *th-up* I owe you 2 or 3 or 4
Notice the SICK Suzuki telefonica Movie Star GSX-R 600. Thats one of his bikes
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53579&stc=1
the top layer of paint being stripped
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53580&stc=1
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53581&stc=1
each different colour is a different layer of bondo. who can count them all :rolleyes:
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53582&stc=1

Justin e36
08-01-2005, 01:22 AM
I think they spent more money on bondo than on the car itself.
I'll see what I can find for a coupe.. most of my body parts are for sedan.

app
08-01-2005, 09:51 AM
So to fix all the rust, its best to paint strip the entire car, see where all the rust is, fix that, then patch new metal in, bondo, then paint?

RumRogerz
08-01-2005, 11:14 AM
how much was your quote for the paint?

BMWags
08-01-2005, 11:21 AM
looks like things are coming along nicely man, cant wait to see how it looks when you're done. *th-up*

rayman
08-01-2005, 12:27 PM
Kudos to you for taking on such a huge job. I think we all can't wait to see how it turns out.

bmdbley'sBro
08-01-2005, 02:41 PM
wow the page 1 pics of the rust i thought looked like bondo
then you confrim it
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53582
:puke: suppossed to be used sparingly not on the whole car! :mad:
some shops. eh!

but, props car will be like brand new way you're going about it *th-up*

bimmer325
08-01-2005, 05:06 PM
Wow.
It brought back some of my past....
Those rust are so common for E36. especially the trunk. my trunk was so bad, I have to buy the whole rear end...
I replace both of my fender instead of fixing them.
325iSBimmer you should give bruno a call. He can hook you up for aftermarket body parts. I got all my front end and rear end from him.
is cheaper just to replace them then try to fix them.
good luck man.

325iSBimmer
08-01-2005, 06:57 PM
how much was your quote for the paint?

I got a quick quote of 4G but I spoke to the guy who was gonna do it and he said maybe 6G would have covered it. Thats including new trunk, hood, fenders all of which I'm getting anyways.

Today we (My cousin who came from toronto to look at the body, and Darkness95M3) got the rest of the paint stripped of the car completely and got it ready to be sandblasted. the rusted out areas were cut out, including the trunk floor. More detailed pix to come later tonite.

Darkness95m3
08-01-2005, 10:16 PM
More detailed pix to come later tonite.
Pix or else! :D

325iSBimmer
08-01-2005, 10:41 PM
Lots more stripping and Bondo to go through *uzi*
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53586&stc=1
getting there
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53588&stc=1
some bad rust along the windshield and top of the A pillar
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53589&stc=1
and finaly, the metal we were looking for the whole time. come to find it looks like this thing was vandalized and the dents were pulled by using a welded rod and slide hammer. leaves the metal looking like the skin of a golf ball
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53590&stc=1
the roof is the flatest part of the whole car. with the exception of one corner that had some minor dent repair. :cool:
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53591&stc=1

app
08-01-2005, 10:52 PM
how do you get through bondo? Just sanding?

Won't it rust if you leave it as bare metal? how long can you leave it like that without worrying?

325iSBimmer
08-01-2005, 10:57 PM
This side was the worst for the little dents everywhere. all the spots are mostly low spots. still more sanding to be done but i left them so i got the idea where it needs work
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53592&stc=1
my other little helper...sorry Darko, she's cuter than you :D
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53593&stc=1
as you can see the dents dont get better *uzi*
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53594&stc=1
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53595&stc=1
almost completely stripped on this side. cars going in tomorrow to be snadblasted/media blasted in the hard to reach/ rusty areas
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53596&stc=1

325iSBimmer
08-01-2005, 11:07 PM
AGAIN i owe the biggest thanks to Darkness95M3 for getting this thing to where its at now. He single handed cut out the rust spot and did a fantatic job. I get a little nervous with a cutoff wheel near anything with the letter B M W in it.
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53597&stc=1
Trunk floor was cut out and looks like it wont be bad to customize it for the duals and get the spare tire well back into it
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53598&stc=1
the only thing holding the spare tire in was; NO JOKE; BMW rubberized undercoating. Hence why Im after that stuff to undercoat the car this time around where new metal is being welded in
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53599&stc=1

M50E30
08-01-2005, 11:24 PM
I'm pretty shure that Wurth Underbody Seal is what BMW uses.

www.wurthusa.com

Rampage
08-03-2005, 11:57 AM
wow, what an undertaking! Looks like its comming along nicely. Im going to be following this and taking notes for when I get an e36

What year is your car?

325iSBimmer
08-09-2005, 01:43 AM
So to fix all the rust, its best to paint strip the entire car, see where all the rust is, fix that, then patch new metal in, bondo, then paint?

It all depends on how bad the rust is. I've found that if you can strip the imediate area, sandblast the rust completely of and then coat it with a rust preventative like POR-15 or Silver Bullet; so long there is no through holes there should be no need to cut and weld. I had 2 areas that needed cuting out; the trunk floor and the hole be the left rear fender.

wow, what an undertaking! Looks like its comming along nicely. Im going to be following this and taking notes for when I get an e36
What year is your car?

My car is a early build 94. it was actually built November of 93 in Germany


I havent been posting because as you guys may have noticed the site was down *mumble* :moon: jokes to the mods *wave*

I had the windshield and back glass removed last tuesday and since I havent done much. was tied up at work cause the boss was on holidays. So now that he's back I'll have this weeks nites to work on the BMW. On the weekend I taped some of the car off and sandblasted the drivers door, snaded and preped the metal so its ready to have the POR-15 used in the previoiusly rusted areas, some minor dent repair and body filler, then the panel will be sprayed with self etching primer. and then High build primer so that it can be wet sanded to check for imperfections and make absolutely sure the panel is straight.

I will be posting some pics soona dn hopefully by the end of the week both doors will be primed and done and the car body shell will be sandblasted in the needed areas :cool:

325iSBimmer
08-11-2005, 11:48 PM
so lately I've been doing nothing but sandblasting. Its a bit of a pain in the arse. sand gets everywhere on me and the surrounding area, but it gets the metal completely rid of any rust. so far I've done maybe 50% of the car and used 500lbs of sand. its a good thing im getting it at $10/100lbs.

I'll be posting some pix shortly.

Justin e36
08-12-2005, 02:34 AM
yep, sand blasting is messy stuff.. but kinda fun. (or is it just me?) .. I was in a booth though.

325iSBimmer
08-12-2005, 12:09 PM
yeah, i didnt think about renting a booth. so im just doing it at the shop. the only waste is I can only use the sand once and then its on the gorund outside. a booth might have ended up costing the same. it was $70 for the gun and the sand so far has cost me $90.

bmdbley'sBro
11-05-2005, 02:33 PM
so what happened to this project?

Soldo
11-05-2005, 03:11 PM
Update!!!!!

325iSBimmer
11-21-2005, 02:00 AM
Lately the project has been on pause because as of september I was back at school in London and we're also moving from St. Catharines back to Aurora and so the weekends that I have been home I havent been doing much but packing. Hopefully mid December I will be able to start working on the car again at the new house.*th-up*

Just before I left the shop I was at I had the car sprayed in a etch primer to protect the bare metal while the car sits. Theres still some small sanding around the windshield areas and door sills but for the most part the car is done the first stage of body. Next will be the straightening of the small dents everywhere and then another coat of build primer. Then further sanding.

Once I get back on the project I will start posting regular updates with pix again.*wave*

bmwm5lover
11-21-2005, 10:24 PM
Coming back to Aurora eh?
I'll probably see you around, too bad my BMW is now sold.

BTW, you are doing an excellent job with the car.

uber e36
11-21-2005, 11:45 PM
western eh? good times...

325iSBimmer
11-22-2005, 03:59 PM
Coming back to Aurora eh?
I'll probably see you around, too bad my BMW is now sold.

BTW, you are doing an excellent job with the car.

Thanks for the reassuring words. Hopefully once Im done the car will look prestine and will last me for years to come. I can honestly say I dont think i will ever get tired of the E36 bodystyle. I like many other styles as well but I can see my self keeping this car even after the purchase of another BMW (probably a 2000-ish 540i 6-speed once Im done school) and Using the E36 as more of a toy to make faster.

Terry,
I'll be moving to Aurora as of Dec 5 (wellington and younge area) and thats where I'll spend my xmas break (working on the car). how come you sold ur E30? Are you planning on getting something else or was the insurance just killer after afew speeding tickets. Im in the same boat with my insurance and its almost a good thing the car is off the road for a while.

Geoff,
Unfortunately (as I have very quickly found out) Im at Fanshawe right now for Mechanical Engineering (Design Major) but Im looking into getting into Western for next year, as this college route isnt as challenging as I thought it might be. But London its self provides good times. Cant complain about the girl to guy ratio in this area.*th-up*

propr'one
11-22-2005, 05:59 PM
Western is great for girls, if you see a black e36 pulling up to saugeen that's me:D Great work on the car man, i did my best to check if my car was bondo'd and i dont believe it was, except for the driver side rear panel, and that's only in a dent spot (i hope). Im also going to start sending a case of carlsberg a week to darknessm3's house just in case anything ever goes wrong with my car:D

325iSBimmer
11-22-2005, 06:10 PM
Western is great for girls, if you see a black e36 pulling up to saugeen that's me:D Great work on the car man, i did my best to check if my car was bondo'd and i dont believe it was, except for the driver side rear panel, and that's only in a dent spot (i hope). Im also going to start sending a case of carlsberg a week to darknessm3's house just in case anything ever goes wrong with my car:D

Yeah western B-rods are ussually attractive...actractive bitches but attractive none the less. i didnt think there was bondo on my car either untill I started sanding..but what happened with my car is something i've never seen before so I would be surprised to ever see the same thing.

save urself the money on beer.. he doesnt drink (often). but yes he has been of great help to me on this car. we've had our fair share of working on E36's together and it seems to work out.*th-up*

propr'one
11-22-2005, 06:16 PM
i'll post next time im around london, if you've missed driving e36's you can take mine for a spin. (hopefully that will be once i get a manifold, cams and have mark "the mad scientist" d'sylva do it up for me:D)

325iSBimmer
11-22-2005, 06:27 PM
I've been driving a 1989 VW jetta 5spd around for the last few months..so anything faster than a 12 speed bicycle feels fast to me. lol. My buddy just bought a 97 328 but its auto. riding in any E36 gives me the motivation to get mine done and back on the road for spring. Love these cars. so much to offer.

325iSBimmer
05-14-2006, 04:49 PM
Now that Im done school for the summer its time to start working on the Bimmer.

To make a long story short when the car was being transported to my home in Aurora the Cover was blowen off and the car was filled with snow:( *mumble*

I now need to get the car sandblasted once AGAIN, but this time I'd like to do it right and rent a booth like Justin was talking about.

So, Justin, If you're reading this could you direct me to where you went to get your car sandblasted. I think you mentioned it being in the Toronto area and you were able to rent a booth and do the blasting yourself with their equipment. Is this correct. If you could hook me up with a number or business name that would be greatly appreciated. If the price you paid comes to mind, just so I know roughly what Im in for. I had a state of the art paint booth lined up in Stoney Creek (close to where i used to live) lined up for about $200/day so long as i bought the supplies to paint with from them. Im assuming a sandblast booth would be somewhere in that range.

Justin e36
05-14-2006, 05:03 PM
unfortunately the sandblasting equipment I used was a shop just helping me out as a favor.. I didn't pay anything, and they don't do this publically. Was just some guys hooking me up..

You can try giving these places a call.. http://www.redtoronto.com/Business_to_Business/Construction/Sandblasting/category-287-3-1.htm?q=&MarketSelect=2

325iSBimmer
05-14-2006, 05:17 PM
thanks for the search Justin. Im gonna give a few places a call on Monday.

When u sandblasted your car, did u have the whole interior out or just the seats and carpets. I just need to remove the carpets and then everything but the dashboard will be out of it. Im not a big fan of removing dashboards so I;d like to leave mine in.

bimmer325
05-16-2006, 09:40 PM
You should call blaster master. if you tow your car to the shop they will blasted for you.



Eric

325iSBimmer
07-09-2006, 01:01 PM
ok boys, I know it's been a while since I've updated this thread but I've been trying to do what I can with what little spare time i have these days. seems as I get older time goes by quicker:huh?:

last you saw, the car was being stripped of all the paint.

It was sprayed with an epoxy primer to keep the rust off the bare metal and shortly after that I had to have the car transported to my new house in Aurora. while the car was in transport the cover unfortunately blew off and the car was caught out in a snow storm*mumble*

long story short..the whole car needs to go to media blasting again and it needs further stripping of parts.

here's what the car looked like after the first sandblasting, rust spots treated with POR and then primered.

I threw the interior back in the car quickly and put the bumpers, hood and trunk on temporarily in order to move the car.

$500bimmer
07-10-2006, 01:54 AM
looking good

325iSBimmer
09-15-2006, 09:14 PM
I've been working slowly on fixing some of the patch work done previously.

Heres inside the drivers side front wheel well. The Frame had been bent in a previous accident, it was straightened and then a new piece welded in but the rust has gotten the better of it. so I''ll have to cut it out and replace.
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62657&stc=1&d=1158370487
This is from the top of the engine bay and you can see where the tube frame extension was torn away from the fender lining.
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62659&stc=1&d=1158370487
Inside the drivers floor area where there was a plug missing from the hole that let all kinds of rain water into my car without me knowing it.
cause rust and some smaller holes. a section will have to be cut and replaced here aswell.
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62660&stc=1&d=1158370487
From the underside you can see the hole it made and where the rust ate away underneath the undercoating.
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62661&stc=1&d=1158370487
Some work yet to be done in there!
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62668&stc=1&d=1158371742

325iSBimmer
09-15-2006, 09:50 PM
How easy would it be to do an engine swap now*th-up*
but reason says *thmbsdwn*
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62663&stc=1&d=1158371204
Looks pretty nasty*shiner* cause it is.
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62666&stc=1&d=1158371204
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62667&stc=1&d=1158371204
The back section had some minor rust as well. Probably due to the acceleration*smoke* ...
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62665&stc=1&d=1158371204
Believe it or not there is so sort of order to the wiring madness!*uzi*
http://maxbimmer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62664&stc=1&d=1158371204

Storamin
09-16-2006, 09:58 PM
wow... and i thought the rust here in pittsburgh pennsylvania was bad!

looks like you're really cranking on the car!

Shock(/\)ave
09-17-2006, 08:55 PM
I just wanted to let you know that you're my HERO. ;)

In most other people's hands that poor car would have been stripped and sent off to the crusher by now. There is sooo much work that needs doing on that car I can't believe you had the stomach to tackle it all! :eek:

Please don't give up on it now that you've come this far and keep giving us updates now that you have the time to work on it again.

Someday you'll be able to take it out on a cruise with us so we can all admire the finished product. *th-up*

325iSBimmer
09-17-2006, 10:44 PM
Thank you for the inspiring words. It's thoughts of cruising and the enjoyment of the finished product the keep me going sometimes. It has been a project that turned into one of those "what have i got myself into now", but I think in the end it will reward.

Someday you'll be able to take it out on a cruise with us so we can all admire the finished product.

I think we'll all admire your car instead:cool:

BMWags
09-18-2006, 01:54 AM
when andre is done, it'll basically be a brand new e36

325isRED
09-18-2006, 07:38 AM
Wow... you have a big project on your hands, Keep up the good work, and keep us posted...

Cool thread...

propr'one
09-18-2006, 12:55 PM
lookin good*th-up*

Dr. Flyview
09-18-2006, 02:30 PM
WOWWWWWWWWWWW, I wish my car could get this treatment. This makes me wanna forget about fixing rust/repainting b/c I won't be able to do it myself and it'll just be shit job (for my money).

E36is
09-18-2006, 03:54 PM
^^ Gee Flav...no confidence in yourself huh.. I took the task with my bumpers as i couldnt swallow paying someone a G note to just refinish and paint my bumpers...so without any past autobody experience under my belt (total noob) i tried it out, the aftermath turned out alright. just give it a shot bro.

Btw, this journal is awesome, keep up the great work on restoring the e36. maybe drop in a S54 and 6 spd tranny while your at it.

Oldschool..

Dr. Flyview
09-18-2006, 04:03 PM
^^ Gee Flav...no confidence in yourself huh.. I took the task with my bumpers as i couldnt swallow paying someone a G note to just refinish and paint my bumpers...so without any past autobody experience under my belt (total noob) i tried it out, the aftermath turned out alright. just give it a shot bro.

Btw, this journal is awesome, keep up the great work on restoring the e36. maybe drop in a S54 and 6 spd tranny while your at it.

Oldschool..

Sanding down a car, taking off trim, doors, windows, and priming is a whole lot different than painting just a bumper, but I must say, yea you did a good job!

dbworld4k
09-18-2006, 06:19 PM
Holy crap your car had deteriorated BAD! I have a 96 myself, it's practically mint in terms of how robust the body panels are. It needs some paint touch ups here and there but that's about it.

ZiMMie
04-15-2007, 07:55 PM
any updates?

Darkness95m3
04-17-2007, 08:19 PM
Yawn,,, Any updates?

T.Dot_E30
04-17-2007, 10:07 PM
wow, its been a while.

I can't believe that e36 has that much rust.

Darkness95m3
04-20-2007, 07:14 AM
I think he is ignoring us.

Darkness95m3
04-20-2007, 07:15 AM
wow, its been a while.

I can't believe that e36 has that much rust.

Pictures don't do it justice.

325iSBimmer
04-23-2007, 12:21 AM
Pictures don't do it justice.

haha...and you weren't there for when I removed the carpet*shiner*

But I'll still give you credit, for I'd still be staring at it wondering what to do:confused:

as far as updates I honestly haven't done much these winter months. the garage is exactly heated and my european blood doesn't like anything below +10

on that note though I have started back at it this weekend. mostly uncovering the car from its winter break and rearranging the garage with the new garage door and building some more shelves. I plan on spending the better part of the next 2 weeks locked in there working on it. So we'll see where I am then. Hopefully she'll be painted up and ready to start reassembly by then. But so far on this project things have been easier said than done.*uzi*

Darkness95m3
04-29-2007, 09:39 AM
haha...and you weren't there for when I removed the carpet*shiner*

But I'll still give you credit, for I'd still be staring at it wondering what to do:confused:

as far as updates I honestly haven't done much these winter months. the garage is exactly heated and my european blood doesn't like anything below +10

on that note though I have started back at it this weekend. mostly uncovering the car from its winter break and rearranging the garage with the new garage door and building some more shelves. I plan on spending the better part of the next 2 weeks locked in there working on it. So we'll see where I am then. Hopefully she'll be painted up and ready to start reassembly by then. But so far on this project things have been easier said than done.*uzi*


LT1? with supercharger?

325iSBimmer
04-29-2007, 01:44 PM
LT1? with supercharger?

hahaha..what are u on?*drink*

I'm gonna be bringing the car to a guy I found to do the bodywork and paint. I've seen his work. He's mostly into restorations (mostly on muscle cars) but when I was at his shop he had an E36 in there about to go to paint.. His work is definately what I was looking for. Although he's already told me if I want the Job done well I need to give him time.. about a month and a half.

Dr. Flyview
04-29-2007, 06:07 PM
hahaha..what are u on?*drink*

I'm gonna be bringing the car to a guy I found to do the bodywork and paint. I've seen his work. He's mostly into restorations (mostly on muscle cars) but when I was at his shop he had an E36 in there about to go to paint.. His work is definately what I was looking for. Although he's already told me if I want the Job done well I need to give him time.. about a month and a half.

Let us know who this guy is.

Darkness95m3
04-29-2007, 08:21 PM
hahaha..what are u on?*drink*



Hey just a suggestion.

Yes please tell us who this guy is.

325iSBimmer
04-29-2007, 08:46 PM
I'll tell you this much.
he runs a small body shop in Aurora;)
so after he's done with my car, and hopefully the outcome is good, I'll post his information.

just as a side note; the e36 he had in the shop had rust in mostly the same spots as mine. Not sure what It was like before, just saw the fixed areas.
Although I can still almost gaurantee I had to deal with more

carjoe
09-10-2007, 10:38 PM
Bump a roo.

I'd love to know how this is working out for you.

After looking over the pics for the umpteenth time, I think I have many of the same spots. Very common for E36's apparently.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do with your project.

J

325iSBimmer
09-11-2007, 08:51 PM
Sorry guys, no updates for a while because I spent all summer at school, almost finished with the engineering degree.
as far as the car is concerned, I've been picking away at it little by little..its a very daunting task knowing that i'm fixing something that will never be worth the time and effort put into it. after getting it back from the sandblasters for the second time I was in for MORE surprises... the whole back part of the car was BRUTALY graffed from another car. whereever the seems are is where there is rust issues. It's amazing the car ever drove straight!
The plan is for me to continue working on it slowly after I'm done school in Dec and hopefully next spring it will be done and look normal. although underneath I will know what hides and I couldn't even bring myself to sell the thing for I wouldn't want someone to inhert the problems associated.
I'll try to snap some pix next time I get some more work done to it.

bmdbley'sBro
09-12-2007, 03:40 PM
after getting it back from the sandblasters for the second time I was in for MORE surprises...

the whole back part of the car was BRUTALY graffed from another car. whereever the seems are is where there is rust issues.
It's amazing the car ever drove straight!

wow that blows!

but hey at least it did drive straight and will again, when put back together *th-up*

325iSBimmer
09-13-2007, 11:27 AM
That's yet to be proven!
I had to weld a whole new piece if frame rail onto the front drivers side just before where the sway bar mounts to. I measure 23432 times and I've tacked it into place and test fitted the front clip on and everything seemed to line up relatively well. It shouldn't have an affect on the way the car drives, but let me tell you, it was nerve racking just to tack the thing inplace.

dhlyum
09-28-2007, 12:29 AM
Hi 325is,i salute you..you r the man.others would have dump the car but you really make an effort to restore it..dont worry,once its done you car will be as good as new.The rust at the boot is due the the leakage of battery water from the battery,so make sure to get a maintenance free batt.*th-up*