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Goran
12-19-2004, 10:12 PM
Basically Im getting some rear shocks for christmas, which ones are better for a 1988 325is Konis or Bilsteins. Ive heard good things about both and I was told that the bilsteins are better for the german cars........... so does anyone have experience with both??

Slydids
12-19-2004, 10:54 PM
Bilstein's straight up homie

gsbadbmr
12-19-2004, 11:06 PM
Bilstein's straight up homie

I agree, Bilstein sports are the way to go!

-gsbadbmr

Jordan
12-19-2004, 11:06 PM
Bilstein's straight up homie

Fa show knee grow :rolleyes:

paul christians
12-19-2004, 11:21 PM
what?????bilsteins hd or sport any one..konis are good too........

paul christians
12-19-2004, 11:23 PM
I have sports on the front and hd on the back..........nice ride too.....

Goran
12-20-2004, 01:38 AM
aright I guess its the bilsteins then, how baout for control arm bushings the M3 bushings and control arms or a performance brand/which one?

///m powered
12-20-2004, 02:45 AM
aright I guess its the bilsteins then, how baout for control arm bushings the M3 bushings and control arms or a performance brand/which one?


http://www.bimmerworld.com/html/eyeball-arms-control-arm-bushings.htm

Mystikal
12-20-2004, 09:40 AM
It's well known that the rear Bilstiens don't provide much rebound at all, what springs are you using anyways.

Goran
12-20-2004, 11:26 AM
I am using Apex springs, i know they arent the best for performance but while my stock shocks were holding up the ride was pretty good, it was stiff and and it didnt bounce a lot, both my rear shock blew though and now i wnat to upgrade the whole suspension

ChadWC218
12-20-2004, 01:23 PM
It's well known that the rear Bilstiens don't provide much rebound at all, what springs are you using anyways.

Is there another brand or type that people usually throw in instead of the Bilsteins in the rear to compensate for this?

ara_yaz
12-20-2004, 02:52 PM
Boge is another very popular brand for German cars.

Goran
12-20-2004, 04:26 PM
so which Bilstein is better for the rear, sport or heavy duty

ara_yaz
12-20-2004, 06:18 PM
You should get the same style all around.

Bilstein:
Sport = street performance
Heavy Duty (HD) = track performance

In reality, you'll be fine with the sport ones...imo.

tanksta
12-20-2004, 07:05 PM
go with konis.. i have them all around and i am very pleased.. bilestiens seem to be a little more bouncy if you ask me..

Mystikal
12-20-2004, 08:09 PM
I am using Apex springs, i know they arent the best for performance but while my stock shocks were holding up the ride was pretty good, it was stiff and and it didnt bounce a lot, both my rear shock blew though and now i wnat to upgrade the whole suspension

Well, those have a soft rate. You'll be fine with Billys all around. And get the Sports, I'm about to correct ara325's post.

Mystikal
12-20-2004, 08:10 PM
Is there another brand or type that people usually throw in instead of the Bilsteins in the rear to compensate for this?

Koni of course. For any spring beyond the H&R Sports or Eibach Pro-Kits, you'll want Konis all around.

Mystikal
12-20-2004, 08:11 PM
You should get the same style all around.

Bilstein:
Sport = street performance
Heavy Duty (HD) = track performance

In reality, you'll be fine with the sport ones...imo.

Good God no. The Sports and HDs have the EXACT same valving, but the HD's are stock length (1" taller than the Sports). The HDs are NOT for use with lowering springs, and have absolutely nothing to do with track performance.

ara_yaz
12-21-2004, 11:20 AM
Good God no. The Sports and HDs have the EXACT same valving, but the HD's are stock length (1" taller than the Sports). The HDs are NOT for use with lowering springs, and have absolutely nothing to do with track performance.

hmmm, this is a first! My info was from parts suppliers etc...I've never heard of the above.

Goran
12-22-2004, 02:05 PM
well Im gonna get the bilstein sports for the rear, now is it bad if i get the Koni's for the front because i heard they can lower the car a bit more

Mystikal
12-22-2004, 02:20 PM
well Im gonna get the bilstein sports for the rear, now is it bad if i get the Koni's for the front because i heard they can lower the car a bit more

A damper has NOTHING to do with the ride height, but the Koni DOES have more travel in the front assembly, meaning it can be used with shorter springs than the Bilsteins.

Skunk#1
12-22-2004, 05:37 PM
yes sir, springs lower the car, shock are just there to control them......that parts supplier should just be what he is a supplier, not a source of knowledge.

how many time do you go on what the supplier says, i never do....most of the time you are talking to some kid or middle aged guy that just got the job cause he can read and sort through a catalog.

that situation just proved it.....

ara_yaz
12-22-2004, 06:00 PM
Do your own searching then!

ara_yaz
12-22-2004, 06:01 PM
Good God no. The Sports and HDs have the EXACT same valving, but the HD's are stock length (1" taller than the Sports). The HDs are NOT for use with lowering springs, and have absolutely nothing to do with track performance.

You might want to double check your info.

BMW BMXer
12-23-2004, 01:52 AM
Sports and HD's are valved the same. Sports have shorter shafts.

Ara someone misinformed you.

Mystikal
12-23-2004, 03:01 PM
You might want to double check your info.

Okay.

ara_yaz
12-23-2004, 04:12 PM
my bad...so wtf, i can't trust my parts guy...i guess i'm better off searching on my own.

Thanks for clarifying. *th-up*

blacknblue-e30
12-24-2004, 02:45 AM
I agree, Bilstein sports are the way to go!

-gsbadbmr
*th-up*

Goran
12-25-2004, 12:20 AM
Well I got the Bilstein Sport for the rear, Im gonna go with the Koni's for the front........ does anyone know which control arm bushings work the best, I was gonna go with the M3 ones