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AMG_POWER
11-20-2004, 09:10 PM
Pretty intresting.

Sport auto 09/2004
sl65: 0 - 100 km/h 4,3 s, 0 - 200 km/h 13,1 s

Ams 13/2004
sl65: 0 - 100 km/h 3,9 s, 0 - 200 km/h 12,6 s

Sport auto 08/2004
CL65: 0 - 100 km/h 4,8 s, 0 - 200 km/h 13,8 s

Autozeitung 23/2004
M5: 0 - 100 km/h 4,4 s, 0 - 200 km/h 13,9 s

Autobild
M5: 0 - 100 km/h 4,7 s, 0 - 200 km/h 13,5 s

SportAuto
M5: 0 - 100 km/h 4,5 s, 0 - 200 km/h 13,8 s

Gamite
11-21-2004, 07:20 PM
That's FI vs NA for you.

lets see track numbers too

AMG_POWER
11-21-2004, 09:57 PM
That's FI vs NA for you.

lets see track numbers too

M5 gonna kick ass!!! *uzi*

SickFinga
11-21-2004, 10:23 PM
neither of cars is a competition to each other

and price tag on any 65 amg is double the price on m5.

AMG_POWER
11-21-2004, 10:32 PM
M5 is very fast between 100-200km/h. See the list for other cars.

BMW M5 E60 8.8 s
360 modena 11.4 s
360 stradale 11.1 s
996 turbo 10.4 s
996 GT3 (2003) 10.2 s
996 GT3 RS 9.3 s
SL55 AMG 9.5 s
575M Maranello 9.3s
Gallardo 9.0 s
Murcielago 8.9 s
996 GT2 (462ps) 8.4 s

Source: SportAuto

AMG_POWER
11-21-2004, 10:33 PM
neither of cars is a competition to each other

and price tag on any 65 amg is double the price on m5.

But we're talking performance wise, M5 kicks ass pretty bad!

takeshi
11-21-2004, 11:24 PM
comparing these cars really means nothing, I dont even understand why CLS55 is "made to steal the M5's thunder", i thought the E55 and M5 were in one class. So what does BMW have to go against CLS? nothing. magazines just realize the E55 is no match for the M5 so they come up with something that doesn't fit in anywhere. I realize it has four doors as well, but it wasn't made to replace the E55 so I don't consider it in the same class. I bet if BMW had a reason to make a CLS contender they could certainly do that, and probably win too "performance wise".

Gamite
11-21-2004, 11:29 PM
M5 is very fast between 100-200km/h. See the list for other cars.

BMW M5 E60 8.8 s
360 modena 11.4 s
360 stradale 11.1 s
996 turbo 10.4 s
996 GT3 (2003) 10.2 s
996 GT3 RS 9.3 s
SL55 AMG 9.5 s
575M Maranello 9.3s
Gallardo 9.0 s
Murcielago 8.9 s
996 GT2 (462ps) 8.4 s

Source: SportAuto


Talk about getting up to speed, I guess when u get the thing rolling, there's no stopping it.

tifosi
11-22-2004, 01:29 AM
in my opinion, i don't really think the existence of the CLS55 AMG really threaten's M5's sells at all.

i mean, people who's going after handling will still get M5, because M5 is still ultimately better as far as handling is concern.

however, i think the existence of the CLS55 will rather steal some sells from E55 AMG. since they are both four door, luxury, stylish car that's insanely fast. Mercedes-Benz claimed they are making CLS because they realise there's a empty spot in their line-up...i wonder just what kind of magnification they were using on their telescope when they discovered that.

well, i guess in the end, more selections is better for consumers anyway.

Gamite
11-22-2004, 01:43 AM
The problem, is, the majority of drivers that have that kinda money aren't usually concerened with handling as much.

tifosi
11-22-2004, 01:57 AM
The problem, is, the majority of drivers that have that kinda money aren't usually concerened with handling as much.

yes, i totally understand that.
and more than likely those people won't consider M5 to begin with anyway.

and that's why i dont' think CLS is so much a threat to M5. because the people that'd buy a M5 will still buy a M5. and people who value comfort more will still get an AMG. it's just that now AMG just got another new model to compete with themselves.

sure, reveiews says CLS55 handles slightly better than E55 due to its newly design steering rack. but E55 will get that shortly for 2005MY also. which should improves E55's steering feedback significantly. so i still don't quite understand Mercedes-Benz's marketing strategy.

i am not trying to say which car is better than which though. because they are different type of cars for different type of people. and i totally respect people what prefer E55 over BMW.

AMG_POWER
11-22-2004, 03:25 AM
yes, i totally understand that.
and more than likely those people won't consider M5 to begin with anyway.

and that's why i dont' think CLS is so much a threat to M5. because the people that'd buy a M5 will still buy a M5. and people who value comfort more will still get an AMG. it's just that now AMG just got another new model to compete with themselves.

sure, reveiews says CLS55 handles slightly better than E55 due to its newly design steering rack. but E55 will get that shortly for 2005MY also. which should improves E55's steering feedback significantly. so i still don't quite understand Mercedes-Benz's marketing strategy.

i am not trying to say which car is better than which though. because they are different type of cars for different type of people. and i totally respect people what prefer E55 over BMW.

I also dont quite understand why they released CLS which they call a coupe?!... Which is 4 door with the same HP as E55 although its hevier couple of hundreds kgs... I went with E55 because it's comfy and instantly fast at any range of rpms... if right now there would be m5s for sale i'd probably would've get myself an m5... i'm sure it is more sporty and i think SMGIII should be alot of fun... Maybe in 2-3 years i'll get myself one... But for now I will practice on E55 hehe! *th-up*
Btw i think they will fit a new steering rack on upcoming E63...

GEEE$
11-22-2004, 09:17 AM
BMWs are for drivers.

Mercedes are for robots.





G$

AMG_POWER
11-22-2004, 09:18 AM
BMWs are for drivers.

Mercedes are for robots.
G$


Ahh shut upppppp! :moon:

GEEE$
11-22-2004, 09:47 AM
Ahh shut upppppp! :moon:



It's not a bad thing...just reality. :P

AMG_POWER
11-22-2004, 09:48 AM
It's not a bad thing...just reality. :P

Stop whining! Dont be a girl!

GEEE$
11-22-2004, 09:53 AM
Stop whining! Dont be a girl!


Hey, you were the one that couldn't wait for the driver's car!! :D




G$

AMG_POWER
11-22-2004, 10:13 AM
Hey, you were the one that couldn't wait for the driver's car!! :D


G$

Hey even if i could wait there's already like zillion deposits for a century ahead.... Plus first year cars gonna suck, blow, ETC.... I'll swap in 2 or 3 years no worries!!! *shiner*

GEEE$
11-22-2004, 10:26 AM
Hey even if i could wait there's already like zillion deposits for a century ahead.... Plus first year cars gonna suck, blow, ETC.... I'll swap in 2 or 3 years no worries!!! *shiner*


Do it...and put your ass into it. *th-up*




G$

tifosi
11-22-2004, 11:52 AM
I also dont quite understand why they released CLS which they call a coupe?!... Which is 4 door with the same HP as E55 although its hevier couple of hundreds kgs... I went with E55 because it's comfy and instantly fast at any range of rpms... if right now there would be m5s for sale i'd probably would've get myself an m5... i'm sure it is more sporty and i think SMGIII should be alot of fun... Maybe in 2-3 years i'll get myself one... But for now I will practice on E55 hehe! *th-up*
Btw i think they will fit a new steering rack on upcoming E63...

i was told as well as reading from several magazines reviews that Mercedes-Benz will fit the new steering rack on to the E55 from 2005MY and up. is it not right?

AMG_POWER
11-22-2004, 02:55 PM
i was told as well as reading from several magazines reviews that Mercedes-Benz will fit the new steering rack on to the E55 from 2005MY and up. is it not right?

I'm not sure, i'm picking up my car tomorow so i'm gonna find out!!:)

Gamite
11-22-2004, 03:07 PM
Ahh shut upppppp! :moon:


No, YOU shut up, ya damn robot!

AMG_POWER
11-22-2004, 03:09 PM
No, YOU shut up, ya damn robot!

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tifosi
11-22-2004, 03:32 PM
I'm not sure, i'm picking up my car tomorow so i'm gonna find out!!:)

sure, please find that out for me! thanks.

and enjoy your new car as much as you can....untill i get mine :D
just out of curiousity. did you consider the CLS55 at all before putting money down for E55? not that i think one is better than the other, but i am just wondering if what my theory is correct. *wave*

AMG_POWER
11-22-2004, 03:56 PM
sure, please find that out for me! thanks.

and enjoy your new car as much as you can....untill i get mine :D
just out of curiousity. did you consider the CLS55 at all before putting money down for E55? not that i think one is better than the other, but i am just wondering if what my theory is correct. *wave*

No i wasnt considering CLS55 because it will cost alot more then E55 Plus its more heavier and also i dont really like the styling, I love E55 looks much better....Plus CLS55 is 1 year away i belive, CLS500 will be here next spring so CLS55 probably by the end of 2005? Also I dont understand How 4door can be coupe...

P.s I'm looking forward racing you on the dragstrip(spl?) :P

tifosi
11-23-2004, 12:23 AM
No i wasnt considering CLS55 because it will cost alot more then E55 Plus its more heavier and also i dont really like the styling, I love E55 looks much better....Plus CLS55 is 1 year away i belive, CLS500 will be here next spring so CLS55 probably by the end of 2005? Also I dont understand How 4door can be coupe...

P.s I'm looking forward racing you on the dragstrip(spl?) :P

i am not sure if i am right, but i think CLS500 will be avilable early next year, and CLS55AMG will be ready for delivery shortly after.